Rokerij Seed Co's Amnesia Haze

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hi ron,

great report and bless ya for the patience to grow from (in my opinion :) ) a shite seedbank...ive been busy trying the sour diesel and in 15yrs of growing ive not come across a more irregular strain...5 plants all different sizes and one went into full flower way ahead of the rest...im no scientist or genius but i`d guess whomever produced these seeds didn`t really care if they were a success or not or just didn`t bother their hole to get it right....ive scrapped 4 outta the 5 and moved back to dutch passions mazar and a bit of nirvanas ak-48...(solid companies in my opinion)...

i also have a 5 pack of rokery`s mango haze :? gonna give em away :lol: :lol: :lol: not worth the time and effort :wink: :wink:


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Thanks soapy... :)
No negative vibes towards the good people that I've met at the various Rokerij shops, not their undoing.
Sucks that you've experienced similar disappointment with your grow. :(
I've grow seeds from Dutch Passion and have only been had a couple of bad seeds... +90% germination, +90% fem (only a couple of hermies).
Give the Mango Haze a go, you might be surprised... or more frustrated than you are now. Take the plunge... :lol:

In my opinion, the most boring part of the grow experience is waiting for the bud to cure.
I do cheat a little and take samples, but these tend to be raw tasting, very green. :mrgreen:

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Good weed should be tasty with even a weeks cure :mrgreen:
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Oi, mind your manners. :twisted:
No trashing my gear until you've smoked and choked on it first... :wink: :lol: :mrgreen:

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Uncle Ron wrote:Oi, mind your manners. :twisted:
No trashing my gear until you've smoked and choked on it first... :wink: :lol: :mrgreen:

Happy farming...

:lol: :lol: :lol: just in general
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Cisco wrote:
Uncle Ron wrote:Oi, mind your manners. :twisted:
No trashing my gear until you've smoked and choked on it first... :wink: :lol: :mrgreen:
Happy farming...
:lol: :lol: :lol: just in general
:lol: :wink: got it...the first time 8) :mrgreen:
I've had bud that was slightly over dried and it took a couple of weeks for the true flavor to present itself...
... and I've had the misfortune of "loosing" the cure because I over dried the gear during the dry and subsequent cure. Tasted like I would imagine smoking hay would. NASTY!!! :oops: :cry:

Update:
The cure is going as well as can be expected, nothing out of the unusual.
After reading what I wrote above, a shiver cursed through my body - what if I 'effed up and over dried the bud from P2? After six days of cure, most of the bud is still dry. The gear in the other containers reconstituted itself after three to four days, however...they were slightly more damp than P2. If in the next couple of days I don't observe even a slight increase in moisture, I'm going to add a re-hydration agent. I sure hope I didn't lose the cure with P2. If I did happen to over dry and it doesn't smoke well, I will convert it to some form of hash. I don't think it will come down to this, but it's good to have a backup plan just in case. Waste not, want not, and all that...
I've been estimating the moisture content and I'm beginning to think this old school method may be outmoded. I've read about small electronic devices that measure humidity and temperature, perfect for curing. I'm hesitant in purchasing just one let alone four or five given that they cost 30-40 Euros. I'll think on it some more...
Well folks, that's it for now.
Happy farming...
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You make it sound like drying herb is hard Ron :mrgreen:
If smelly hippies can do it, you can.
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Twichaldinho wrote:You make it sound like drying herb is hard Ron :mrgreen:
If smelly hippies can do it, you can.
ron IS a smelly hippie haha :mrgreen:
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Twichaldinho wrote:You make it sound like drying herb is hard Ron :mrgreen:
If smelly hippies can do it, you can.
Hey Twichaldinho,
It's so easy it's hard, or it's so hard it's easy, I forget... :? :lol:
Not sure about smelly hippies, all the ones I've met were very clean - they didn't want their hemp clothing to become soiled... :shock: :wink: :lol: :mrgreen:
This is my seventh cure with indoor grown gear; I've only had a part of one cured crop go bad, over dried the bud of one plant. I ground then sieved, made for some nice Kief. Waste not want not. I remember all too well days when I was dry and yearning for some kind gear.

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stints wrote:
Twichaldinho wrote:You make it sound like drying herb is hard Ron :mrgreen:
If smelly hippies can do it, you can.
ron IS a smelly hippie haha :mrgreen:
Dude, of all the people, how could you bust me out like that? :oops: :shock: :oops: :shock: :wink: :lol: :mrgreen:
Smelly or not, at least most of them have hair... :shock: :mrgreen:
See ya next week sometime...
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If I was in your situation and if I had 2 phenotypes really similar, I'd just mix the overdried weed with a wetter one
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Panog wrote:If I was in your situation and if I had 2 phenotypes really similar, I'd just mix the overdried weed with a wetter one
Thanks for your advice, a smart option indeed.
The three remaining, P2/P3/P4, are very dissimilar, sharing very little ancestral (genotype?) traits.
As previously mentioned, in my opinion I grew five different phenotypes, each displaying different characteristics.
In my opinion, the bud in P3/P4 are too dry to make any significant difference with P2. Maybe a week ago perhaps... missed opportunity :(
I have P2 split into two containers; one contained bud that was ever-so-slightly moist. I mixed the two and refilled the containers. That was two days ago...
Curing is/can be a slow process, but if I'm to ease my worries, I'm not going to wait until it's (almost) too late.
After checking the bud this evening, I've decided that I'm going to add a piece of orange peel to one of the containers. I'll let it sit for 12hrs, remove, and reseal. I'll let it sit for a couple of days before opening and checking. When the cure is done to my satisfaction, I'll compare the two.
I realize there are those who think it's a waste of time using a reagent, and in part I agree, if the bud were as dry as a prairie fart. :shock: :oops: :lol: :mrgreen: But in my case, the P2 was dried in the grow box with a steady temperature of 21c/71F and humidity level of 55% for six days, and the bud has been in glass for six days. I realize that the humidity level of 55% was a little dry; it probably should have been between 65-70%. I've read somewhere about The Rule of 7 - 70F/70%RH/7 days, unfortunately I didn't apply 2/3rds of the rule. :oops: :lol: :mrgreen:
More to follow...
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Another technic you can use (never experimented but a guy from sweet seeds told me he sometimes does that) is to put your buds on a net, then boil water 60/70cm under it, they will gain moisture quick...
Don't put a nasty piece of fruit in this, your buds gonna taste like it
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Panog wrote:Another technic you can use (never experimented but a guy from sweet seeds told me he sometimes does that) is to put your buds on a net, then boil water 60/70cm under it, they will gain moisture quick...
Don't put a nasty piece of fruit in this, your buds gonna taste like it
Thanks.
The procedure may have some merit, but the amount of moisture not to mention the temperature is something that gives me pause.
I'm thinking of the rule of 7's minus the 7 days - 70F with 65-70% humidity. The room where the bud is curing is at a steady 71F, but to measure the humidity inside the containers is a different issue. As previously mentioned, I'm not keen on spending 30+ Euros, but what other options are there for a poor, disabled dirt farmer? :shock: :lol:
Maybe time to visit my local grow shop... ya think?
As for nasty fruit, I only use a small piece of the rind (peel). I've done this technique once before with satisfactory results. When compared to the gear that wasn't treated, the smoke seemed to be just a little bit smoother, but it lost a wee bit of its haziness (Super Haze).
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For me the best is to trim the bud when they're still a bit too wet, then I let them dry on a net for 1 or 2 days and begin to jar them.
I then open the lid 12h per day, than 8, 6, 4, ... Until real curing begins.
Seems it's a bit late to explain this :lol:
And yeah if the smoke is over dry I'd use the peel method as well
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