Rokerij Seed Co's Amnesia Haze

[Prestoned]

Nice after report, I like all the calculations too.

I think the thing with charging €50 per gram for extracts is the exclusivity market. The more money someone pays for something, the more it is assumed it is better/rarer.

[Uncle Ron]

Thanks MadCore,
Although I agree that the yield from the BHO would have been higher had I ground the trim, I'm positive it was a lot more than 10%.
12gm yield from 110gms of trim is a decent ratio. As I stated in the report, I broke up the trim and gear with my hands, almost like old school hash making. Finger hash anyone?

The amount of qwiso from the 110gm wash has yielded 3gms, not bad, but this also tells me that I did get a fair amount during the Butane washes.
Which leads me to clarify - I used the 1000mL to wash 150gms, of which 110gms was trim used in the BHO. Of the approx. 40gms of fresh trim remaining, I only had enough alcohol to process about 25gms. From the 25gms, I was able to extract a little more than 2gms, again not a bad ratio.

I had fun, could have been a lot more interesting if I had made a fruit cocktail with some of the alcohol. Can't say that when using Isopropyl...
Only after paying for pharmaceutical grade ethanol did I find a much cheaper source, but still expensive at 30 Euros for 1000mL.
It was a good learning experience and if I ever decide to make some more, I know what works for me.

I'm anxious to sample some more of the hash, but it won't be ready for a couple of more days of purging.
I usually take a small sample just before I start to work it. If for any reason, it's easier to handle when in a semi dried state.

Happy farming...

[Uncle Ron]

Nice after report, I like all the calculations too.

I think the thing with charging €50 per gram for extracts is the exclusivity market. The more money someone pays for something, the more it is assumed it is better/rarer.

Thanks...
€50 for a gram.... I'll pass, every time.
Happy farming...

[Prestoned]

Yeah the prices for it are silly. Suppose its still pretty 'new and exciting' so maybe it will be more reasonable in the future. Im thinking about an oil run of some kind, but I keep making bubble.

[Cisco]

It's recommended that you leave nugs whole for a BHO run , it's all about the pack nice n tight

[Uncle Ron]

You only really got 10% but then you reclaimed the rest with the QWISO run so all is not lost.

After looking at what I wrote, I gave pause and thought.... I wonder if he meant 10% of the weight of trim? Uh oh, duh no kidding.
See, this is what drugs does to the brain...
I should have gotten more especially since 90gms of the material was bud. Lesson learned...

Cisco,
From what I've read but didn't put into practice was that the gear be completely dry and to grind everything. I did this before without any problems, this time I simply spaced it...
The trim was dry, the bud from P5 as well, bud the bud from P2 should have been given a couple of days in the open air.
I don't see how leaving bud whole is a good thing. My theory is that some nuggets can be so dense that there is a more than a reasonable assumption that not all trichomes will be washed. This is in part why I think I as able to get the amount from the QWISO, I ground the already BHO'd gear before washing with alcohol. I could have made another Butane shot, I had one can remaining, but decided against. My loss, but a lesson learned.
When packing the container, in my case a knock-off honey bee extractor, I gravity tamped the material into the tube, I didn't/don't hand pack because most of what I've read recommends against hand packing. Something about the density obstructing the flow of gas and liquid or some scifi stuff...

Happy farming...

[Cisco]

Sorry but your obviously reading the wrong stuff , get on TokeCity all the info you need is there

[treetop]

Thanks for the report Ron.

[Uncle Ron]

Sorry but your obviously reading the wrong stuff , get on TokeCity all the info you need is there

As does ICMag, Grass City, and dozens of other sources. Many resources suggesting what to do when processing gear.
There are some who even suggested processing right after harvest with wet materials.
Last year before starting out, I contacted a few people who've been making oil/hash for years.
ALL of them said to dry the gear completely, and to grind before putting into freezer.
I appreciate your opinion, which I assume is based on personal experience, but the vast majority of what I was able to gather suggests otherwise.

The one reason, just the one, that tells me I'm onto something is a burning bud analogy...
Take a bud, put it in a bowl and smoke it. How did it smoke? Did it burn evenly, completely? Probably not, why?
Take a bud, grind it, let it sit in the air for a moment or three to allow that last bit of moisture to evaporate.
Fill the bowl and smoke it. Did it burn evenly, completely? Probably, why?
Same principle with solid nuggs crammed into a tube. When done, remove the bud and break apart. Oh look, there still plenty of trichomes in the center of that bud, and there were when I ground the bud for QWISO. Now, had I ground the bud before using butane, most likely those trichomes would have been washed out during that process instead of the QWISO.
The evidence is nearly conclusive, dried ground gear should be the standard. Just my opinion, and a few others as well.
Everybody has their own way, and so..... to each their own.
Happy farming...

[ZBeebs]

I've read those threads about using fresh, frozen material. And tried it. And it's the tastiest I've ever smoked, the taste is just like the plant smells. I did a run with the same starting material but dried. I would say it is just as strong, but not nearly as tasty.

Yields go down as well when using fresh material, and it's more of pain in the ass to work with, so there are trade-offs...

[Uncle Ron]

Thanks Zbeebs...
I haven't tried making anything with wet gear, yet, but I will when I bubble.
I'm the sort that will experiment even if the process has been done a million times, it's part of my learning process.
Maybe there is something about the cold that "locks" in the flavornoids, tannins (wine..hehe), or whatevers...
To each their own... I'll show you mine, you show me yours, then we all can see each others....
Happy farming...

[redeyezman]

To offer up the stoner element to it, as I'm reading your post above ^^ UR I think oh freeze drying good idea! To Wikipedia..... and I see THIS and think there is the home-made version, suck air out, and throw in freezer for a while. Does this count as the science behind it? Or am I just stoned?

[Uncle Ron]

Thx redeyezman...
It's science, mad science...
Update:
The gear is curing nicely, beginning to come into it's own, finally shedding the last bit of chlorophyll.
The hash has been very nice, quite heady but also some body as well.
Happy trails...

[redeyezman]

Ron have you left the building?

[sensismiler]

I did a BHO run on some fresh UK outdoor grown weed that didn't finish properly and I can confirm that it is indeed extremely tasty. I wish I could give you bud weight to oil ratios but I honestly have no idea, sorry.