ZBeebs wrote:
But now I'm thinking I can take a single clone off each of the 4 moms, then flower the seed plants and turn the clone into the mom... That will allow me to figure out if I've got good phenos or not faster, right? Any reason not to do that? Am I better off with moms from seed or clone?
I like your idea of cloning the Mom, then flipping her, nice plan of action. Gives you an idea if you want to keep her for your head stash or try something different.
Unless I can get clones, I always start from seed, usually feminized, veg. out, then take clones from that Mom. Normally I take enough clones to flower with, and enough to start Moms over again, then add a couple extra to play it safe. Good Luck.
I've had more time to think about this, and I realize that there is a lot of flexibility involved.
Right now the autos are under the HPS, I'm going to keep them on an 18/6 schedule even though they are flowering, I don't see how it can hurt, just get them finished faster.
I am taking my clones tonight. I'm going to try and take 4 off each plant for a total of 16. I will keep the strongest of the survivors from each strain as the moms, and flower the rest. I'm curious to see how clones turn out with just a few days of veg before flowering.
Just took a peek at my clones... 5 of them are showing some roots, but too soon to transplant... I took 16 clones, assuming many wouldn't make it on my first attempt...Then on Friday, since I didn't see any roots and thought they were all going to die (I misted them too much, too much water...) I cut 6 more... have a feeling I'm going to have more than I can handle!
Will keep the nicest as moms, then flower the rest and the ones that were grown from seed...Having those autos in the tent are going to be a pain in the ass...will need to build something to put the smaller plants on at first to level the canopy...
ZBeebs wrote:Just took a peek at my clones... 5 of them are showing some roots, but too soon to transplant... I took 16 clones, assuming many wouldn't make it on my first attempt...Then on Friday, since I didn't see any roots and thought they were all going to die (I misted them too much, too much water...) I cut 6 more... have a feeling I'm going to have more than I can handle!Will keep the nicest as moms, then flower the rest and the ones that were grown from seed...Having those autos in the tent are going to be a pain in the ass...will need to build something to put the smaller plants on at first to level the canopy...
I'm prepared to flower, at most, 16 plants. I'm using 3 gallon buckets so it will be tight in the tent. Since I've got 3 autos going, I'll be able to flower 13 of these clones.
I'm only going to veg them for about ten days...Just no room for 16 big plants.
The autos are getting pretty big and starting to flower nicely.
I've been posting pics on instagram, if anyone wants to see them...
Question about the moms - I've read it's best to take cuttings from the bottom of the plant...do they grow back? I've already cut all the lower ones off...
I transplanted 4 AK48 and 4 Blueberry gum from under the dome into solo cups with Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil a couple days ago, they're all looking nice and strong. They were from my first attempt at making clones. They took about 2 weeks to get to this point. I moved a 5th Blueberry to a solo cup tonight, and from my first batch the Blueberry gum rooted 5 of 6. The AK-48 rooted 4 of 4.
I also took 4 clones from the Fruity Chronic Juice in the first batch, only one of them rooted, and slowly. It also went into a solo cup tonight.
The Kosher Kush clones went 0 for 3.
From the second batch of clones, I had 2 AK-48, and both of those rooted quickly and went into solo cups tonight.
I have 2 Kosher Kush, both showing the beginnings of roots, and 2 Fruity Chronic Juice, showing nothing yet.
I guess some strains clone easier than others?
Since I have plenty of AK-48 and Blueberry Gum clones, I repotted the moms from small 4 x 4 inch containers into 3 gallon pots and put them into the flowering tent. Right now the lights are on 20/4 in the flowering tent, in a few days after the two repotted plants have a chance to grow some new roots I'm going to switch them to 12/12. Probably in 5 days or so.
I will keep the strongest of the clones as moms, and flower the rest.
It's going to be a challenge having different strains at different sizes at different stages of flowering in a 4 x 4 tent. Right now I'm looking at having 15 or more plants going at one time if all goes well. I am hoping that by keeping the clones small it will be manageable.
The last four clones (2 Kosher Kush and 2 Fruity Chronic Juice) are showing roots now and will go into solo cups in another day or two.
However, the last two Blueberry Gum that went into solo cups the other day aren't looking so good, still droopy and not growing while the others are. That's fine though, as I have too many to fit into the tent. Going to keep them going though, just to see if they will come around.
Another thing I haven't mentioned in this thread, if you've been following the others, is I've switched from Pure Blend Pro grow and bloom to Floranova one-part and I've been happy with it so far. I've also added Cal-Mag to the mix, as I've had a bit of spotting that I thought was nute burn, but since looking at more pics it's clear to me that it's a calcium deficiency. I've also learned that clawing can be a MG deficiency, and have seen no clawing this time, while I'd seen a bit of it the past few grows.
Also, when I transplanted the Blueberry Gum and AK-48 from the small square pots to the 3 gallon ones to flower, I cut off about 1/4 inch around the soil as well as a bit off the bottom as they looked a bit root-bound. Those two are the slightest bit droopy. How soon before there is new root growth into the new soil so they will begin to grow again and can be put into flower without stressing them too much?
Another observation - without pics, not nearly as many people visit or comment on these threads.
I dunno how long it will take sorry , but I have heard of peeps doing just that (repotting mothers though rather than cuts
Thanks for the update , interesting stuff . I think the forum in general is showing a lot less traffic these days , don't be disheartened to keep posting updates man
Of those last four clones (2 Kosher Kush and 2 Fruity Chronic Juice), one of the Kosher Kush is now a mom, the other was left in the Solo cup and put in the flowering tent. The Fruity Chronic Juice clones aren't going to make it. The leaves are getting brittle and brown and growth has stopped, the leaves stayed droopy. They will stay in the veg tent until they grow again or die completely...
I switched the light in the flowering tent to 12/12 just 2 days ago. Right now the 3 autos are in there, as are 3 AK-48 in 3 gallon pots, 3 Blueberry Gum in 3 gallon pots, one Kosher Kush and one Fruity Chronic Juice in 3 gallon pots. There are also 3 more Blueberry Gum and 3 AK-48 that are in the flowering tent in the 16oz solo cups. I plan on leaving one of each in the solo cups just to see what happens, and move the others into smaller pots...maybe 1 gallon. Theres just not enough room in a 4x4 tent for all of these.
Once the autos come out there will be some more room to spread the rest out, but the autos look like they have a while to go still...
Things are looking good... The fruity chronic juice clones that I thought were dying made it and are in the flowering tent.
Two of the three autos will only get ph'ed water starting tomorrow, I think they're about 2 weeks away. The third is way behind, and is not making nice flowers. It is showing no burning at all from the nutes so far, so I will start to hit this one heavy, maybe add some beastie bloomz as well, right up to harvest then turn it into BHO.
