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I've been experimenting with different types of edibles lately, and made some green dragon a few days ago. Here's a quick rundown of how I made it:

5 grams of bud per 2 ounces of everclear (95% alcohol). I used 8 ounces of everclear and 20 grams of ground up buds. (most recipies I found suggest 3.5 grams per 2 ounces so I had to do more)

First the buds were spread thinly on a piece of aluminum foil and placed in the oven at 325 degrees for 5 minutes to decarboxylize.

While this is happening, I have a pot of simmering water on the stove and the everclear in a mason jar with a candy thermometer. The mason jar is placed in the simmering water (double boiler) until the everclear gets to 165-170 degrees. Then the bud is added and kept at that temperature for around 20 minutes before being strained out. After the 20 minutes, it reduced down to about 5 ounces which I placed in a smaller mason jar and placed in the refrigerator. (try to keep temps at or below 170, since the alcohol boils off at 173)

I have both a high tolerance and don't seem to be affected much by edibles... I made some brownies that didn't seem to do anything to me (even though I ate 3 of them), but I had friends eat one each and they were knocked out - one of them literally slept away the afternoon (6 hours!) and was still high when he woke up so I'm not doing something wrong, my edibles are POWERFUL...

So with the green dragon I have started experimenting with dosage. Most recommendations say to start with 1ml and see how it goes from there, with people talking about 2 or 3ml being an extremely powerful dose. I put 1.5ml in my coffee the other day, no effect after 90 minutes so I smoked. I tried 3ml the next day, and felt only mild effects, so after 90 minutes I smoked... Today I upped it to 6ml, and drinking that coffee now... We will see what happens! I am off through Sunday, so if 6ml doesn't do it, tomorrow will be 10ml...

It's been about half an hour since I started my coffee (and 20 minutes since finished) and I'm starting to feel something... I think?

It's been more than an hour, only mild effects again... tempted to make another cup of coffee with the same dose... but want to find a baseline for what works in one shot, so will try again tomorrow morning with 10ml.

Iv been hearing bout this Greendragon lately keep us updated

I am going to make a batch using bho instead of buds, see how that goes... 1 gram bho per two ounces of 190 proof grain alcohol...maybe that will be strong enough?

man! yer tolerance has plateaued (or summat like that!)

ZBeebs wrote:First the buds were spread thinly on a piece of aluminum foil and placed in the oven at 325 degrees for 5 minutes to decarboxylize.

Green Dragon is nice stuff. We'd take vials of it with us to ball games, dose our beers and get wicked baked. It's cool to watch the thc come out of solution when you mix it with a beverage, like when you add water to ouzo. ZB, we've used a couple of tables from this patent application for guiding us in our extracting activated/decarboxed thc mad science...

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7344736.html

Scroll 'til a little past halfway down, and find Table 3. HPLC Data from Decarboxylation of CBDA Herbal Material, 4. HPLC Data from Decarboxylation of THCA Herbal Material, and 5. GC Data from Decarboxylation of THC Herbal Material.

The tables are pretty straightforward, and show how much time's required to decarb thca to thc for a given range of temps, how cbd ratios increase with temps, etc.

Hope this helps, as we've found getting the decarboxylation down was the most important element for a happy (full effect) end product.

EasilySuede wrote:

ZBeebs wrote:First the buds were spread thinly on a piece of aluminum foil and placed in the oven at 325 degrees for 5 minutes to decarboxylize.

Green Dragon is nice stuff. We'd take vials of it with us to ball games, dose our beers and get wicked baked. It's cool to watch the thc come out of solution when you mix it with a beverage, like when you add water to ouzo. ZB, we've used a couple of tables from this patent application for guiding us in our extracting activated/decarboxed thc mad science...

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7344736.html

Scroll 'til a little past halfway down, and find Table 3. HPLC Data from Decarboxylation of CBDA Herbal Material, 4. HPLC Data from Decarboxylation of THCA Herbal Material, and 5. GC Data from Decarboxylation of THC Herbal Material.

The tables are pretty straightforward, and show how much time's required to decarb thca to thc for a given range of temps, how cbd ratios increase with temps, etc.

Hope this helps, as we've found getting the decarboxylation down was the most important element for a happy (full effect) end product.

Good info there... too bad most of it goes right over my head! The tables will come in handy though.

Drinking my coffee with 10ml of green dragon... hope it does the trick...I think what I will have to do next time is let the alcohol reduce down further so it's even more concentrated...

At 6ml it wasn't really noticable, but at 10ml the taste is definitely coming through... a slight "green" taste, and I think I can also notice the taste of the alcohol as well.

Once I get the technique and dosage down, I plan on making a big batch for regular use, maybe even replacing my morning smoke session completely with a couple ml in my coffee...Need to find out how much I can take and still be able to get work done and be productive vs. how much it takes to knock me on my ass... It would be nice to be able to leave the house and not worry about smelling like weed, especially when going to work, or to the in-laws...

Turns out the wife has plans for me tomorrow, so I won't be able to continue this experiment in the morning...So I made a second cup of coffee and added 5ml of the green dragon to it for a total of 15ml...2.5 times my highest dose so far. If this doesn't get me baked, I don't know what's going on! My first thought is I did something wrong, that I screwed up the process and it just doesn't work, but I don't think that's the case... I thought that about my cannabutter, that I was doing it wrong, until I gave some to friends who either were knocked out completely or said they were too high, uncomfortably high, and a dose 3x as much didn't work on me...

why not go 24 hours without any thc in your system then try some first thing in the morning.

TwoCanucks wrote:why not go 24 hours without any thc in your system then try some first thing in the morning.

I don't know if going 24 hours without adding any thc to my system will make much difference over the 8-12 hours I usually go from last smoke of the night to first smoke of the next day.

When I have taken a day off from smoking, I don't feel my tolerance changes at all. However, when I've taken a week off, that first session kicks my ass, but the tolerance is quickly built back up in a day or two.

I guess it's worth a try... While I wouldn't say I feel nothing from 15ml of green dragon, the effects are mild and mostly in the body. I am definitely functional, if feeling a bit lazy and couchlocked...but from experience I know that if I start moving around that will go away pretty quickly. One thing I have noticed is I don't really have the desire to smoke right now, and normally on a day off where I've been up for 4 hours with nothing planned, I'd have had at least a few bong hits by now and/or been at the vape... So I guess it works, but I'm looking for what a knock-out dose would be, where it is just a bit too much, so I can back off from there. I'm not near that yet.

I would expect that if I took a bong hit now, I would end up really high. When I smoked yesterday after 6ml, it hit me harder than expected... But I better not, I might want to get something done today...

I also want to say before anyone goes and follows the recipe and tries a dose like I'm taking, you do so at your own risk. I have heard it said that a very small percentage of people are just not capable of processing thc well orally, and I think I'm one of the (un)lucky few. What I really need is someone to test this stuff on besides myself...

My address is ........

Scared of getting high? smash a 40ml shot down!

Slip & Sal wrote:Scared of getting high? smash a 40ml shot down!

Not scared... and while that will work, it won't tell me where my limit is...would 20ml be enough? 30ml?

I'm about to find out what happens at 20ml... Wife woke up with a headache and says its too hot to run around doing errands and working around the house... So my coffee is brewing now!