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Think I'm gonna stick out like a sore thumb here, but in Nuneaton, UK we smoke Baccy in bongs

Not glass bongs obviously. We smoke shottys (plastic bong with a straight metal tube)
Literally put the tiniest bit of Rolling Baccy in like a few strands, this acts as a plug while you're pulling. Then when the bud is all burnt up, the Baccy strands burn up straight away and then it drops, suck really hard and get a slab of thc wack you in the face.
I smoke with about 8 people regularly and we all smoke like this.

Baccy in joints too, helps it burn and prefer the taste

But no Baccy for blunts that would just be silly

gapie wrote:i see it so many times happen
the young stoners does they are a bit ignorance
they know about there weed but how the smoke it they dont no
dickheaads

I think it is ignorance and they don't know any better bless em!
My self wouldn't use tobacco,

Like I said you should all fuck off and let people smoke the way they want. Ignorance is thinking your way is the best and others who do something different do have a clue. That's ignorance. I'll say it again tobacco smokers don't call straight smokers ignorant and say that they are missing something or ignorant for not mixing. No but you up yourself high and mighty straightees can't do anything but award yourselves tickets.

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Apart from it tasting better, smoking pure does not trap you into the 'I need a joint' feeling that the nicotine addiction causes. I want a smoke, but I don't need it. The highly carcinogenic properties of tobacco are another reason I prefer not to mix. Nothing high or mighty about this, just my preference. You carry on doing your own thing. Why would I possibly care about your preference to gamble with a drug that greatly increases your chances of getting lung or bladder cancer, reduces your expected lifespan and costs a fortune for the privilege. Nothing ignorant about that whatsoever, it's just your choice. Enjoy smoking however you wish to.

I see it like putting Mayo on your chips.

It's pretty bad for you, but doesn't stop you doing it.

Just to Make you mad Gapie

I started smoking hash with tobacco in my teens and never really enjoyed it- I would get headaches and acid indigestion. Then weed started to appear all over the UK and I started to smoke pure and smoking cannabis became a new and completely different experience- a clean and pure stone without the shitty nicotine hit. I would much rather smoke 1 pure joint that might give me a sustained high for a couple of hours than 5 baccy joints.

Just my experience and I know its each to their own but I highly recommend ditching the tobacco.

Slip & Sal wrote:Like I said you should all fuck off and let people smoke the way they want. Ignorance is thinking your way is the best and others who do something different do have a clue. That's ignorance. I'll say it again tobacco smokers don't call straight smokers ignorant and say that they are missing something or ignorant for not mixing. No but you up yourself high and mighty straightees can't do anything but award yourselves tickets.

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No one was being an asshole about it, just stating their thoughts on the subject. Yet you've twice insulted people. What's got your panties in a bunch? Tobacco smoker taking it personally? Why would a tobacco smoker call a straight smoker ignorant for not adding tobacco? It has been made clear that the tobacco actually adds nothing of quality to the joint, maybe some enjoy the taste. or it helps it burn better but that's up for debate. What we do know for sure though is how harmful it is.

Do you order a fancy meal and mix in poor quality/unhealthy ingredients so it will last longer?

I would say ignorance is not being able to have a discussion without getting heated and taking it personally and slinging insults.

I smoked cigarettes for almost 20 years (but never mixed it with weed). At the time I deluded myself into thinking it was a choice, that it wasn't as bad as they said, that nothing would happen to me, that I didn't think I'd ever quit... Then I tried quitting because I gained some sense, but I wasn't able to make it really work until the 3rd attempt. Now I haven't had one in more than 5 years. Sure, there's times I miss it, and the smell of a freshly lit cigarette sometimes smells amazing... but would never touch the stuff again.

The reasons for mixing tobacco almost always seem to point to the mixer actually wanting the nicotine hit, and that's OK, and nothing to be ashamed of, but lets face facts!

Smirks wrote:Apart from it tasting better, smoking pure does not trap you into the 'I need a joint' feeling that the nicotine addiction causes. I want a smoke, but I don't need it. The highly carcinogenic properties of tobacco are another reason I prefer not to mix. Nothing high or mighty about this,

I didn't say there was anything high and mighty about not mixing I was referring to the posters in this thread that think they are better for not mixing. I think your deluding yourself to the healthy factor of not mixing. You are burning plant material when you smoke a bong aren't you??? Well this creates tar and carbon monoxide. These are both cancer causing agents. It may be a little healthier but I doubt much. Maybe if your so worried you should give up smoking altogether hey?

Wikipedia

The tar from cigarette smoke is similar to that of marijuana smoke

The "I need a joint thing" you could be right. I may never know though.

Smirks wrote:You carry on doing your own thing.

I will

Smirks wrote:Why would I possibly care about your preference to gamble with a drug that greatly increases your chances of getting lung or bladder cancer, reduces your expected lifespan and costs a fortune for the privilege.

Are you talking about me smoking weed or tobacco here?, because I'm a little confused which, you sound a little like a prohibitionist. (Now that's an insult ) Both drugs do that. Ciggies are cheaper then weed too. Even over here.

You also cared enough to write that?

Smirks wrote:Nothing ignorant about that whatsoever, it's just your choice. Enjoy smoking however you wish to.

There is nothing ignorant about my choice, I've thought about. I enjoy it until I decide different or i can physically smoke without it,. I didn't start smoking causing it was healthy. If my grand total of around two cigarettes a day kills me, before the pollution in the air from your car exhaust then I might get upset.

ZBeebs wrote:No one was being an asshole about it,

The Heavy Coffer wrote:. but in a bong?? NEVER EVER, & they who do are twats who miss the point completely!

Smith2 wrote:I think an all-purpose 'people are idiots' should cover it.

gapie wrote:i see it so many times happen
the young stoners does they are a bit ignorance
they know about there weed but how the smoke it they dont no
dickheaads

Sure looks offensive to me.

ZBeebs wrote: just stating their thoughts on the subject. Yet you've twice insulted people.

Where did I insult someone?

ZBeebs wrote: What's got your panties in a bunch? Tobacco smoker taking it personally?

I mix I've said that. No delusion here mate! I do take it a bit personally that people bother to make up a thread and post it on the internet, about how they don't like other people mixing tobacco in their own weed though and smoking it through a bong. Cause I like to mix tobacco with my weed and smoke it in my own bong.

ZBeebs wrote: Why would a tobacco smoker call a straight smoker ignorant for not adding tobacco?

We don't we aren't whingers and we don't think our smoke is better then others.Why would a straight smoker call a mixer ignorant for adding tobacco.?

ZBeebs wrote: It has been made clear that the tobacco actually adds nothing of quality to the joint, maybe some enjoy the taste. or it helps it burn better but that's up for debate

We aren't talking about joints are we?

ZBeebs wrote: What we do know for sure though is how harmful it is.

And your deluding yourself if you think SMOKING of weed is significantly less harmful. The one joint a day hardly applies if your force feeding yourself 20 doobies a day.

ZBeebs wrote: Do you order a fancy meal and mix in poor quality/unhealthy ingredients so it will last longer?

You've obviously never had an Australian pie, have you?

ZBeebs wrote:I would say ignorance is not being able to have a discussion without getting heated and taking it personally and slinging insults.

This wasn't a discussion. It was a bag out baccy smokers session.

ZBeebs wrote:I smoked cigarettes for almost 20 years (but never mixed it with weed).

I used to smoke cigarettes as well. Now I just mix with my weed.

ZBeebs wrote: At the time I deluded myself into thinking it was a choice, that it wasn't as bad as they said, that nothing would happen to me, that I didn't think I'd ever quit... Then I tried quitting because I gained some sense, but I wasn't able to make it really work until the 3rd attempt. Now I haven't had one in more than 5 years. Sure, there's times I miss it, and the smell of a freshly lit cigarette sometimes smells amazing... but would never touch the stuff again.

Well I gave up ciggies first go and have never had another. Maybe one.

ZBeebs wrote:The reasons for mixing tobacco almost always seem to point to the mixer actually wanting the nicotine hit, and that's OK, and nothing to be ashamed of, but lets face facts!

As I have said the nicotine hit I have never noticed. The reason I do it still is because I physically can not smoke weed with out it. Believe it or not, but if I try I have a coughing fit for around an hour if I try to smoke it straight. That is why I like it. So I don't feel discomfort.

Smoking pure cannabis makes you cough, but smoking cannabis with tobacco makes the coughing go away? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, but that is your reality so who am I to question it? Could it be that your body is used to, and looking for the nicotine when you smoke pure and that causes your body to react by coughing? Something to think about.

Studies have shown that tobacco smoke is many times more carcinogenic than cannabis. Don't forget you're not smoking straight tobacco but all the additives and chemicals that are added to it as well. Some studies even show that the lungs of cigarette smokers who also smoke cannabis are in better condition and the cannabis may actually be protecting the lung tissue in some way. Of course, any smoke inhalation isn't "good" for you

I think it's down to where you live and who you first got high with

If your American then it's pretty clear you don't mix. If when you first got high or first got shown how to skin up (and it was pure) then you prob won't end up mixing.

For me, when I came into weed everyone I knew smoked it with tobacco. I prefer the taste mixed, I go for about a 3:1 weed to Baccy ratio. Smoking it pure gets me really high, A standard joint gets me high. I'd rather have a few joints that get me more progressively stoned, than one (or two) pure spliffs.

Admittedly I didn't smoke cigarettes before I started smoking weed. I use to crash Baccy for joints a lot and then came the day where I'd have to buy my own tobacco to mix. Long story short; one day I wouldn't have weed and wanted a spliff, I'd roll a fag... 6 yrs later I smoke.
I don't blame me becoming a smoker on weed, there are many social factors and it was around the time of going and getting pissed off cider in the park and smoking a few fags (I was only about 14/15)

I regret taking up smoking (fags)
but right now I'm young and not too fussed.

Young and not to be fussed... I used to think that way...

And your story sounds like you clearly started smoking tobacco because of weed, and how it was first filler but then when you didn't have weed you smoked tobacco instead... Seems like it's a direct relationship. But you go on to say that's not the case. I think they call they denial?

Also, how does smoking the same amount of weed but mixed with tobacco not get you exactly as high as just smoking the weed? You said you'd rather smoke a few mixed joints instead of one pure, but going by your ratio of 3 parts weed to 1 part tobacco there is more weed in two mixed joints than there would be in a single pure one! So does the tobacco actually make you less high?

Couldn't people just roll smaller joints, using the same amount of weed, leaving out the tobacco? Same effect then?

I don't smoke the same amount of weed with tobacco.

Ill get 3 joints out of a gram normally with Baccy. If I'm smoking it pure ill use a blunt wrap and put most of the gram in (maybe leave a small bongs worth)

And yes I'm 19, prob younger than a lot of you on here. But we all joined this group because we share the same love of weed. I didn't think I'd be getting shit, and people looking down on me as 'naive' because I prefer to smoke with tobacco.

You clearly know my ciggerette addiction better than me, so cheers for summing it up for me.

Weed is a contributing factor to me smoking yes.
But also working in places when you could only have a break if you smoke, my friends and family who smoke, and smoking cigarettes on a night out at a young age they're pretty big factors too.

'Ah I used to be like that'
Then what's the problem?

I enjoy a ciggerette, I enjoy a mixed joint, I enjoy a pure blunt, I enjoy a glass bong without Baccy, and I enjoy a plastic shotty bong with a tiny bit of Baccy in. But most of all I enjoy getting high

Not trying to give you shit for your choices, just asking questions and trying to figure out why people do what they do.

Have you tried smoking pure joints, same amount as you normally use, just leave out the tobacco?

What is it that is gained from smoking tobacco with weed? Other than "that's what I do out of habit", is there more to it than that?

Is peer pressure really so strong that because other people do it, that's reason enough for you as well? I don't think I ever gave anyone shit for NOT smoking tobacco when I was a two pack a day cigarette smoker, why would anyone do that?

Like I said, your choice, do what you like. There wasn't anything to debate further.