why people put tabacco in bongs

[Felty]

I smoke it in my joints because I prefer the taste. I have smoked it pure a fair bit, quite a lot on our amsterdam trip tbh. Tobacco makes my weed last a little longer, and its more practical for me; when i have a joint before band practice I roll up a kingy with a bit more tobacco than usual and a little less weed, its just a weaker spliff, so I can still remember the tracks; it'll still get me high just not as high; I'd much prefer to smoke through a weak mixed joint than say a baby pure one.

I smoke joints to chill out. If I want to get really high ill just hit a bong or a blunt

It's just down to personal preference

[Adamster]

Since i Stop smoking the Cancer sticks 8months ago i do not put any in my joints i am clearing all the cancer cell caused by smoking the Cancer stick by pure weed was hard at first going pure couldnt taste the weed ...but now since im en route to be Cancer freee

[Weedus]

Well i tried Pure and the Weed/Hash was gone much faster,specialy at Hash i couldt not drag away the Pipehead in 1 Smoke,many drags on Bong with only few Smoke.I dont like That.
And on Weed i just noticed the Weed is gone too quick.

On Hash i make a 1:1 Mix by Volume and on Weed a 3:1 Mix (3 W 1 T) by Volume.

Its a chemical Fact the Nicotine flies away when heated enough,it changes its state from solid to Gas without getting Liquid.When you heat up the Tobbaco and press Air trough with your Mouth most of the Nicotine is gone.More Nicotine is filtered by the Water,as well as 70% of the Tar.

Of course its not soo healthy,i try to use very very light Cigarrets (like Lord Ultra) and i roast them to get the Nicotine away.

I guess i need to buy me a Vaporizer some time.I already went to my usual Headshop where i go for more than 20 Years,and the told me,dont buy it! (i wanted Vaporizer for 189 and he told me to buy a bong for 50,hes a honest guy ,for Hardcore Smokers like me and him it would be noo good.He said he tried it and was very disapointed,he knows i would be the same smoker type (Dragging away a Head in 1 Smoke in Bong with force) and i would not have fun with it.
Well back then i believed him and bought a normal Glass Bong with 18mm Chillum.
I wish there would be a Coffeshop with good Vaporizer in South-Limburg so i could try out there


Perhaps i should add that i dont Smoke Cigarrettes,just 1-2 per Day mixed with Cannabis.I dont smoke them pure,i stopped smoking Cigarretes many years ago already,i guess its more than 15 Years now.

I also tried "Knaster" as Tobaco Replacement,but well the Mix was soo awfull ive put it into a bag for Bad Times
Next time i see,i will buy "Greengo" and test if its better than Knaster

[ZBeebs]

It's a chemical fact that nicotine "flies away when heated"? Please point me to this factual information. But apparently it only happens when mixed with weed? All those cigarette smokers don't seem to have a problem with their nicotine flying away when heated. When you inhale on that mixed joint you get a hit of tobacco and everything that includes, tar, nicotine, and all the other chemicals.

[Weedus]

Well i cant remember the correct chemical name.Normaly Stuff is hard (ice) then liquid (water) then gas (water steam).Some Substances dont get liquid they directly get to Gas.Nicotine belongs to them.So when you heat up a Cigarette with lighter and then Push air trough with your mouth alot of nicotine will go away.

Also,in chemical view a Bong is a Washing Bottle.In Chemistry you use Washing Bottles to clean a Gasstream from special Substances,Chlorine for example when the Washbottle was filled with Anti-Chlorine Pottasiumthiosulfate.A Bong filled with Water will filter out 90% of the Tar and around 70% of the Nicotine.But no THC,THC does not mix with Water,only with Fat/Grease.

Thats the point why people who put any type of OIL in their Bongwater are not realy wise.The Oil catches many dirt and keeps it in Dirt Bubbles in the Water preventig it from making the Bong dirty but it also takes away THC from the Smoke dont do it.THC is Lipophile,that means it LOVES Fat.The First chance THC gets to mix with Fat/Grease will be enough too loose big amounts of it.


The Guy who started the tread,i realy wonder if he ever smoked good Hash (no offense )
Its realy hard to smoke good Hash without Tobaco,it starts boiling and gets realy liquid,you cannot realy smoke such Stuff pure in a Bong.You could try but then you would have a closed screen pretty quick and it realy would be no fun.

When its for Health you best get a Vaporizer or smoke Weed.With Weed you dont need much Tobacco mixed in.

Oh and smoking Tobacoo is realy stupid thing,it contains dozens of Poisons and Tar and one of the strongest poisons in Nature Nicotine.
I need to buy a Bag of "Greengo" and Test it i hope its better than Knaster.There must be an alternative to Tobacco to make a smokeable Hash Mix for Bong.Till now i could not find it anywhere

Oh and btw smoking Bong is by far more healthy than smoking normal Joints with 1/3 Weed and 2/3 Tobaco like most joint smokers seems to do.You get it totaly unfiltered in your lungs,without the Water cleaning of the Bong and with alot of Tobacco for little High.

[ZBeebs]

Weedus, I don't know where you get that stuff about nicotine, but it is 100% wrong. You cannot gently heat a cigarette or tobacco and "blow the nicotine away" or millions of people would be doing this, it would not be your little secret. Please don't spread this wishful thinking where people may read it and believe it to be true.

Most of the other stuff you claim also seems made up on the spot, no idea where your info comes from.

[Slip & Sal]

He is saying Zbeebs, that if you heat the tobacco enough that the tobacco would vaporise and disappear. This has always been my theory as well. This is the reason I heat my cigarette before mixing. I light a lighter and hover the cigarette over it quickly, heating the tobacco inside, so it dries and until the paper around it statrs to turn blackened.

Are you saying the nicotine doesn't vapoise then? Are you saying you have never heard of vaporisation? Why would the nicotine not vaporise? If it did wouldn't it be something like the nicotine "flying away"?

I know a lot of people that do this, possibly then millions do.

[Uncle Ron]

"why people put tabacco in bongs"
I take the simple approach - because they can!?!...
Here are a few more examples.............
Why do people cross the road?
Why do people pick their nose?
Why do people ask why?

Make paper balls and spit them at a board which lists various reasons why people do what they do.
A hit anywhere on the board will without fail provide "a" reason, however, what does that even prove?
If the same reason is hit more than once, that shouldn't mean it's the main reason, just that the aim might be too focused.
Now, how 'bout them apples?

Just having a laugh, no reason for trolls to come out flaming...
Happy Baccy Bongs... cause ya can!
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[ZBeebs]

Briefly heating your tobacco doesn't cause the nicotine to fly away. If that was the case the THC would also "fly away" and your joint wouldn't get you high. Vaporizing involves a couple hundred degrees pulled through the product, not a flame waved quickly over it for a second. If you can touch it right after, it's not nearly hot enough.

Seriously, just because you "think" something might be true doesn't make it so. Like I said, we'd have millions of smokers who would "toast" their cigarettes if this did anything.

People "toast" their joints not to make the nicotine (or tobacco as you said) vaporize, but to get dry the glue on the joint and make it stiff.

If all you needed to do was pass a flame near tobacco, or weed for that matter, to make it vaporize, then why does anyone ever actually light it? You need specific conditions for vaporization to take place. All you're doing is lightly heating tobacco and burning paper.

But you and Weedus, and the "millions" who are doing it this way should just keep on keepin' on, and keep deluding yourselves that you're not addicted to the nicotine in your mixed joints.

[Slip & Sal]

I don't smoke joints Zbeebs your missing the point I think. I roast the ciggie for up to 2 minutes waving it over a flame. Before I mix it with the weed. Make tobacco drier and I believe makes some of the nicotine vaporise.

Lots of people do do it over here mate.

It does say "why do people put tobacco in bongs"

[Slip & Sal]

Vaporizing involves a couple hundred degrees pulled through the product, not a flame waved quickly over it for a second. If you can touch it right after, it's not nearly hot enough

I can't touch mine much

But you and Weedus, and the "millions" who are doing it this way should just keep on keepin' on, and keep deluding yourselves that you're not addicted to the nicotine in your mixed joints.

Like I said I know the nicotine is in there and don't care much, no delusions here.

[ZBeebs]

Some actual research tells me that nicotine vaporizes between 257 and 300 degrees. You are not roasting your cigarettes to anywhere near those temps by passing a lighter back and forth under it. You'd also get some serious burns if you were. Might be drying it out, which would cause it to burn faster, but that's about it.

[Slip & Sal]

A Bic lighter or disposable burns at around 400 degrees celcius and a blow torch style can go in excess of 800 degrees celcius.

Tobacco or nicotine vaporises at 125 - 150 degrees celcius. We all know you don't have to heat up weed much or not enough to burn it, how come you are having trouble seeing this is and could be working for a cigarette.

If i bake them at 180 degrees do you think that what work? as I think it would.

[ZBeebs]

The flame may be that hot, but you are not actually heating the tobacco in the cigarette anywhere near those temps - they would burn your fingers. Simple as that. This is like saying that you put a roast in a 300 degree oven so the roast is now 300 degrees. It's not.

At least we agree on temps, I was stating farenheit (150c = 300f).

Water boils at 100c. Can you stick your hand in boiling water? No? Then you are certainly not holding a 150c cigarette.

Just think about it for a minute, actually think, not just fall back on what you have decided to believe.

When weed (or tobacco for that matter) actually combusts, it does indeed hit a couple hundred degrees. This does NOT happen by passing a flame near it.

When I get home from work I'll roll a joint and pass a flame near it and get it nice and toasted. I will then use an instant-read laser thermometer to get the exact temperature. My money says we get nowhere near the temps you claim.

[HasAnyoneSeenMyPipe]

HODOR!