Outdoor Grow - Tropical

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Remarks on the photos..
1. Residue from nutrients
2. Infestation; Fertilized egg sacks laid by "your guess is as good as mine." If so, I suggest using a cotton swab (Q-tip), clean and warm soapy water.
Dip the swab in the warm soapy water, then while holding the leaf carefully but firmly, wipe the area. A Seinfeld moment - NO DOUBLE DIPPING. Enough said on the point. :lol:
3. pH Fluctuation; scroll down... http://weedfarmer.com/cannabis/plant_abuse_guide.php I use the entire website as one of my references. Good to have as a Favorite Bookmark.

Ref. Gorilla Grow... Be mindful that this plant could grow to 3 meters in height, as is the case with most outdoor Sativas.
It'll probably require some type of support system as well, a trellis perhaps?

Happy tropical trails... :mrgreen:


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Thanks again, Uncle Ron.

I haven't used any nutes yet, apart from the worm castings (vermicompost) I mixed into the potting soil. I have some 10:10:10 NPK in the form of pellets. Is 10:10:10 OK at this stage or should I hold back on the K until it starts to flower (and add more N at this stage)?

There's no sign of insect infestation and the white spots look the same after applying a Q-Tip as you suggested. Also, new leaves have no white spots. Maybe a case of over-watering?

Thanks for the link; very informative. 8)
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May I suggest thinking about a soil testing kit, can't hurt, can it? :lol:
You probably should monitor the soils' pH and EC, if you want to maximize the plants potential, not to mention avoiding any pH/EC related problems.
So, the spots are not eggs, hmm... Chemical burn? Genetics?
Do you have a magnifying glass or microscope in which to take a closer look? Just a thought...
If the spotting doesn't spread, watch and wait, or remove the spotted areas.

Feeding
Regardless of the source, ensure that you are feeding the plants these macro/micro nutrients, or you might be disappointed with the end results...
6 macronutrients: nitrogen (N), phosphorus (P), potassium (K), calcium (Ca), magnesium (Mg), and sulfur (S)
7 micronutrients: boron (B), chlorine (Cl), copper (Cu), iron (Fe), manganese (Mn), molybdenum (Mo), and zinc (Zn)
Go old school and use dry materials, or state-of-the-art liquid...

Happy farming... :mrgreen:
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Chantra wrote:Thanks again, Uncle Ron.

I haven't used any nutes yet, apart from the worm castings (vermicompost) I mixed into the potting soil. I have some 10:10:10 NPK in the form of pellets. Is 10:10:10 OK at this stage or should I hold back on the K until it starts to flower (and add more N at this stage)?

There's no sign of insect infestation and the white spots look the same after applying a Q-Tip as you suggested. Also, new leaves have no white spots. Maybe a case of over-watering?

Thanks for the link; very informative. 8)
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treetop wrote:I had similar marks on my plant after spilling water on the leaves. Could be something similar?
Micro drops of water burn a leaf near the equator? My guess is its possible outdoors!

Hope she is female!
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treetop wrote:I had similar marks on my plant after spilling water on the leaves. Could be something similar?
You might have something there, treetop. I just read recently that the soil should be watered, not the plant. The new leaves don't have the marks, so that scenario seems to, umm, hold water. Then again, it rains outdoors...
redeyezman wrote:Hope she is female!
So do I, redeyezman. However, I have another plant at about one week as a backup. Getting viable seeds from the Lao brick is a tough one; most of them have been crushed when the brick was pressed. I've only had two seeds germinate out of, I guess, 20 attempts (not with crushed seeds!). So there's a lot riding on these being of the female persuasion. :wink:

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redeyezman wrote:
treetop wrote:I had similar marks on my plant after spilling water on the leaves. Could be something similar?
Micro drops of water burn a leaf near the equator? My guess is its possible outdoors!
Hope she is female!
Indoors, abso-fucking-lutely, outdoors - huh?
So, every time it rains and then becomes sunny, the plants burn? NO FUCKING WAY MAN!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

If he had vegged indoors, the plant would show its sex so much sooner.
Me thinks it could take a couple of months... what a waste of time if it's a male. Just saying...

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Uncle Ron wrote: Me thinks it could take a couple of months... what a waste of time if it's a male. Just saying...
I tell ya, even if it's a male, growing it has been a great experience. The big grow will be next year, so this is just learning the ropes.

Anyway, here 'she' is on day 21. The white marks have gone, but there is a little burning on the tips of the lower leaves. I reckon that's down to the nutes I added last week; maybe overdid it a little. :oops:

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"She's" looking lovely Chantra...
Good to hear/see that the spots are gone...
The burning tips - my semi-educated guess is that it's part of the plants process to rid itself of excess nutrients.
Looking at the pic closely, I don't think you have anything to worry about. Looks about normal to me although...
...maybe a good reason to test and monitor the pH and EC.
Growing experience is a good thing, however, my view is somewhat different when it comes to non-feminized seeds...
...I believe time is our most precious commodity, and I won't waste it growing potential male plants, all things considered.
This is why if I were growing outdoors/greenhouse, I would force veg the plants indoors. Within two to three weeks of flowering, I will know what sex they are.

Happy farming... :mrgreen:
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Uncle Ron wrote:This is why if I were growing outdoors/greenhouse, I would force veg the plants indoors. Within two to three weeks of flowering, I will know what sex they are.
I would love to do that, Ron, but it's hard enough getting regular light bulbs where I live, let alone something in the 250 - 400W range. I'll be in Europe for Xmas and the New Year, so I'll stock up on what's needed for next year's grow (which will be something a little more exotic than Laotian bush weed).

Thanks for the comments. 8)
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mites?
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Uncle Ron wrote: So, every time it rains and then becomes sunny, the plants burn? NO FUCKING WAY MAN!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
I see your point here, but just to many variables at play here to discount that so easily. I mean what if it doesn't get sunny for a few hours after rain? Doesn't take long for constant breeze to help evaporate water. Plus the plant is still in its early stages so it has not had time to fully adapt to its environment. Maybe it burns in its early stages, but once she becomes battle hardened it would never happen. We don't/won't have enough information. I was just trying to find out if he was pouring water all over the plant that early into it as a stab in the dark....he was....not good imho....still young and fragile....

Either way I'm glad to see she has recovered and is doing better!
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I think mites, specifically spider mite or two spotted mite.
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Change of plan. The temps here have been in the 100°F range for the past few days and direct sunlight is brutal. More leaves have started to brown and curl at the tips (so maybe it wasn't nute burn after all). Anyway, drastic measures had to be taken so I've switched to an indoor grow for the rest of the vegging.

Best I can do given what is available is:

2 x 24W CFL (spiral bulb) - one on its side at the top; the other upright at the side.
2 x homemade reflectors - basically a square foot of cardboard covered in aluminium foil (shiny side out).

The bulbs are Daylight 865 and emit 1,520 lumens each, which I reckon is marginal but doable, each within an inch or two of the plant (checked for bulb heat and it's low). I'm going to start on a 24/0 cycle unless otherwise advised and maybe move back to an outdoor grow for flowering.

Will this work? So far, the plant seems to be loving it.
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