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Joshuadrooney wrote:

Addlestoner wrote:I think the reason this argument is happening is because your arguing about the technicalaties of 'medical' Im pretty sure well all agree cannabis can be beneficial to sick people, but what i think josh is trying to say is that cos cannabis hasnt been proven to CURE anything it cant make a medicinal claim,

THANK YOU.

But also remember this is only in the UK, different countries could define medicinal differently. Also i personally believe that it can cure certain types of cancer but for one reason or another its kept quiet (probally money but cba to go into that). So even tho its not officially a medicine in the uk i would personally class it as one.

Joshuadrooney wrote:

Addlestoner wrote:I think the reason this argument is happening is because your arguing about the technicalaties of 'medical' Im pretty sure well all agree cannabis can be beneficial to sick people, but what i think josh is trying to say is that cos cannabis hasnt been proven to CURE anything it cant make a medicinal claim,

THANK YOU.

What does aspirin cure? 90% of medicine is about managing symptoms, very few drugs on a larger scale actually cure anything.

Wow, would be nice if people could actually get their facts straight..

First thing I'd advise you to do o5car - is ignore half of the crap written above, it's pretty much all comment and not much fact, if people don't give a good link/reference they're probably talking out of their arse...

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/medicinal

1.
of, pertaining to, or having the properties of a medicine; curative; remedial: medicinal properties; medicinal substances.

And YES - cannabis does have proven medicinal abilities and is also prescribed to people in the UK - but, it is only GW Pharma who have the licence todo so:
http://www.gwpharm.com/sativex.aspx

Sativex® is a cannabinoid medicine for the treatment of spasticity due to multiple sclerosis which is also in development in cancer pain and neuropathic pain of various origins...

Now approved in the UK

Going back to the OP:

o5car wrote:I am told, that smoking cannabis can slow-down the natural healing process. E.g. someone broke their leg and was told it would take 6 months to heal, it took around a year, and he suspected it was due to him being a regular weed smoker.

The reason I ask, is I am currently ill with a cold, and I normally have a cold for around 1-2 weeks.; with some lingering effects. Also I am getting another tattoo soon, and I would like to know if I should stop taking cannabis for a certain amount of time before and after?

When I have a cough/cold, I find the cannabis helpful, but sadly not the tobacco, which is what I've blamed the lingering effects for me.

I can't say I remember reading anything about cannabis slowing down the natural healing process, but I suppose it's possible, but then again, it's other features may help in the natural healing process (eg lower stress etc)

So, if anyone has some proper links and not just comment/conjecture - I'd be interested in any proper info on this too

My friend has MS & i know another guy in a wheelchair & weed does work against pain/spasms etc! & it gives them a better sleep without getting up to piss like 7 times.

A quick look at the definition of medicine and this link http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/study.php should clear this up.

med·i·cine/ˈmedisən/
Noun:
1. The science or practice of the diagnosis, treatment, and prevention of disease (in technical use often taken to exclude surgery).
2. A drug or other preparation used for the treatment or prevention of disease.

I think we got a bit deviated in pointing out that Cannabis does have proven Medicinal abilities.
Apart from the now increasing amount of actual medical evidence, it's quite impossible to refute the actual first hand-stories, like Grunt above, cheers for the info, and was good to meet ya in Voyagers, ya crazy funny bastard , didn't realise it was this necessary for you, all the best m8

But, the question that o5car was posing is actually quite interesting and one that I've never looked into before, is that does Cannabis (or just the smoking of it) cause any noticable slow-down in the healing process?

Do any of you who don't smoke - and just eat/use a vaporiser for example also find that coughs/colds seem to drag on a bit longer than if you stopped?

Whilst this is no way "scientific", would none the less be interesting of first hand experience of people.

You can bring as many definitions and lists of studies as you want, it's not a medicine and that is that.

No further discussion required.

Joshuadrooney wrote:You can bring as many definitions and lists of studies as you want, it's not a medicine and that is that.

No further discussion required.

I and several other posters have proven you wrong about cannabis not being medicine and having no medical value. The right thing to do would be to stop digging in deeper and be happy something you like to do might be good for you in some way.

Yup, the world's still flat, don't worry your little head about it

Old Fart wrote:

Joshuadrooney wrote:You can bring as many definitions and lists of studies as you want, it's not a medicine and that is that.

No further discussion required.

I and several other posters have proven you wrong about cannabis not being medicine and having no medical value. The right thing to do would be to stop digging in deeper and be happy something you like to do might be good for you in some way.

The right thing to do, infact, the only outcome from this discussion I will accept is you agreeing that my position is correct. I will view any response as being your acceptance of my correct position.

Weight of numbers means nothing to me, you have no idea just how persistant I can and will be, so I suggest you leave it here and agree that I am right.

@ Joshuadrooney - Please feel free to go start your own ego topic somewhere, errr, and how about not hijacking the OP's thread which was actually quite an interesting question...

o5car wrote:I am told, that smoking cannabis can slow-down the natural healing process. E.g. someone broke their leg and was told it would take 6 months to heal, it took around a year, and he suspected it was due to him being a regular weed smoker.

The reason I ask, is I am currently ill with a cold, and I normally have a cold for around 1-2 weeks.; with some lingering effects. Also I am getting another tattoo soon, and I would like to know if I should stop taking cannabis for a certain amount of time before and after?

StillSmokin wrote:@ Joshuadrooney - Please feel free to go start your own ego topic somewhere, errr, and how about not hijacking the OP's thread which was actually quite an interesting question...

o5car wrote:I am told, that smoking cannabis can slow-down the natural healing process. E.g. someone broke their leg and was told it would take 6 months to heal, it took around a year, and he suspected it was due to him being a regular weed smoker.

The reason I ask, is I am currently ill with a cold, and I normally have a cold for around 1-2 weeks.; with some lingering effects. Also I am getting another tattoo soon, and I would like to know if I should stop taking cannabis for a certain amount of time before and after?

Thanks for accepting that the legalisation of cannabis is what needs to happen, but that the medical ticket cannot be used because Cannabis does not cure nor prevent illness. I'm glad that you agree with me that sticking to this line does more damage than using plain common sense facts. It's good to see that you have woken up to the fact that whilst cannabis can be used to treat pain, the same effects can be gained from far more harmful substances like hard drugs and alcohol, but like cannabis, these cannot be classified as medicine for one effect alone.

Joshua I reject all of your opinions on all subjects, because I deem everything you say to be inaccurate before you say it.

Joshuadrooney wrote:

Old Fart wrote:

Joshuadrooney wrote:You can bring as many definitions and lists of studies as you want, it's not a medicine and that is that.

No further discussion required.

I and several other posters have proven you wrong about cannabis not being medicine and having no medical value. The right thing to do would be to stop digging in deeper and be happy something you like to do might be good for you in some way.

The right thing to do, infact, the only outcome from this discussion I will accept is you agreeing that my position is correct. I will view any response as being your acceptance of my correct position.

Weight of numbers means nothing to me, you have no idea just how persistant I can and will be, so I suggest you leave it here and agree that I am right.

Translation:

Joshuadrooney wrote:You can bring as many definitions and lists of studies as you want, it's not a medicine and that is that.

No further discussion required.

You have every right to be dogmatic. That doesn't mean you're not wrong, or something other than stupid.

Assuming you have the intellectual capability to read and comprehend scientific research papers (which, based on your arguments, grammar and spelling, I seriously doubt), why don't you hunt some of these down http://www.lancs.ac.uk/shm/bls/staff/wright.htm then come back here and say there is no proof for the medicinal properties of cannabis. Don't forget to cite some supporting evidence for your position, if it is still to the contrary.

Otherwise, kindly STFU.