My feelings are hurt more than you could possibly comprehend.TwoCanucks wrote:Joshua I reject all of your opinions on all subjects, because I deem everything you say to be inaccurate before you say it.
Cannabis' effect on healing/illness
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What about Glaucoma?.
Has been known to restore sight in some cases so would that qualify for your argument as a cure and not a masker of symptoms

Has been known to restore sight in some cases so would that qualify for your argument as a cure and not a masker of symptoms
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Does Cannabis cure illness? Nope.zootly wrote:You have every right to be dogmatic. That doesn't mean you're not wrong, or something other than stupid.Joshuadrooney wrote:You can bring as many definitions and lists of studies as you want, it's not a medicine and that is that.
No further discussion required.
Assuming you have the intellectual capability to read and comprehend scientific research papers (which, based on your arguments, grammar and spelling, I seriously doubt), why don't you hunt some of these down http://www.lancs.ac.uk/shm/bls/staff/wright.htm then come back here and say there is no proof for the medicinal properties of cannabis. Don't forget to cite some supporting evidence for your position, if it is still to the contrary.
Otherwise, kindly STFU.
Does Cannabis prevent illness? Nope.
Does Cannabis treat illness? In some cases, it can mitigate some symptoms of pain, just like heroin, crack cocaine and alcohol. Do you support the legalisation of crack cocaine and heroin as medicines based around one single property?
So a substance that can only do one thing, and not very well, that does not cure, nor prevent illness cannot be considered medicine.
It's such a shame you don't like people having and expressing different opinions, I thoroughly reccomend you get over this, because as I have stated above, there's no way in hell you're gonna force me to change my mind, even with thinly disguised ad hominem insults.
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You have read none of the links have you? Be honest.Joshuadrooney wrote:Does Cannabis cure illness? Nope.zootly wrote:You have every right to be dogmatic. That doesn't mean you're not wrong, or something other than stupid.Joshuadrooney wrote:You can bring as many definitions and lists of studies as you want, it's not a medicine and that is that.
No further discussion required.
Assuming you have the intellectual capability to read and comprehend scientific research papers (which, based on your arguments, grammar and spelling, I seriously doubt), why don't you hunt some of these down http://www.lancs.ac.uk/shm/bls/staff/wright.htm then come back here and say there is no proof for the medicinal properties of cannabis. Don't forget to cite some supporting evidence for your position, if it is still to the contrary.
Otherwise, kindly STFU.
Does Cannabis prevent illness? Nope.
Does Cannabis treat illness? In some cases, it can mitigate some symptoms of pain, just like heroin, crack cocaine and alcohol. Do you support the legalisation of crack cocaine and heroin as medicines based around one single property?
So a substance that can only do one thing, and not very well, that does not cure, nor prevent illness cannot be considered medicine.
It's such a shame you don't like people having and expressing different opinions, I thoroughly reccomend you get over this, because as I have stated above, there's no way in hell you're gonna force me to change my mind, even with thinly disguised ad hominem insults.
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Joshuadrooney
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Nope, never will do. Because I will never accept cannabis as being anything other than a lovely thing to smoke, and certainly never consider it medicine.Old Fart wrote:
You have read none of the links have you? Be honest.
You could conduct a thousand tests, and get hundreds of papers, and I still wont consider it a medicine
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Bless....Joshuadrooney wrote:Nope, never will do. Because I will never accept cannabis as being anything other than a lovely thing to smoke, and certainly never consider it medicine.Old Fart wrote:
You have read none of the links have you? Be honest.
You could conduct a thousand tests, and get hundreds of papers, and I still wont consider it a medicine
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Keep up the sarcasm, because knowing it riles you to see someone with a different opinion just makes it all the sweeter to have a different opinionOld Fart wrote:Bless....Joshuadrooney wrote:Nope, never will do. Because I will never accept cannabis as being anything other than a lovely thing to smoke, and certainly never consider it medicine.Old Fart wrote:
You have read none of the links have you? Be honest.
You could conduct a thousand tests, and get hundreds of papers, and I still wont consider it a medicine
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I'm not riled Josh...just disappointed you can't open your mind and at least scan the evidence presented. That being said this might be a good group for you to join in with.
http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/
http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/
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Humour us then, and throw out a few things that you do consider "medicine". The definition of a medicine certainly does not require prevention nor cure - treatment of a symptom is good enough. Or do you also consider aspirin and penicillin to not be medicines?Joshuadrooney wrote: So a substance that can only do one thing, and not very well, that does not cure, nor prevent illness cannot be considered medicine.
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People used to think the bark of willow trees was only good for kindling to start fires.
Now we know that bark from willow trees relieves pain, reduces headaches and relieves fever symptoms.
That's called medicine.
Its also where aspirin comes from.
Now we know that bark from willow trees relieves pain, reduces headaches and relieves fever symptoms.
That's called medicine.
Its also where aspirin comes from.
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So because I refuse to buy into a theory surrounding the supposed use of cannabis as a medicine, I must be a conservative christian? You are pathetic.Old Fart wrote:I'm not riled Josh...just disappointed you can't open your mind and at least scan the evidence presented. That being said this might be a good group for you to join in with.
http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/
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No - it's because you are presenting your argument based purely on dogma, just like religious types do. He's not suggesting you are one (not that it matters if you are).Joshuadrooney wrote:So because I refuse to buy into a theory surrounding the supposed use of cannabis as a medicine, I must be a conservative christian?
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Oh does it not? Well I'd get onto the Oxford English Dictionary then mate, looks like they've made a mistake, and clearly you know more than they do.zootly wrote: The definition of a medicine certainly does not require prevention nor cure
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definitio ... q=medicinenoun
[mass noun]
1the science or practice of the diagnosis, treatment, and prevention of disease (in technical use often taken to exclude surgery): he made distinguished contributions to pathology and medicine the remarkable achievements of modern medicine
2a drug or other preparation for the treatment or prevention of disease: give her some medicine
As to what I consider medicine, I consider medicine to be something that cures and prevents illness from reoccuring. Cannabis doesn't do that.
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DIddums. Better get used to that I'm afraid, that's generally how it works when people have free speech. We're allowed to present an argument in any way that does not infringe laws.zootly wrote:No - it's because you are presenting your argument based purely on dogma, just like religious types do. He's not suggesting you are one (not that it matters if you are).Joshuadrooney wrote:So because I refuse to buy into a theory surrounding the supposed use of cannabis as a medicine, I must be a conservative christian?
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Of course you are - i didn't say anything other than that did I? You can argue based on whatever you like, legality doesn't even come into it, it's your opinion. I was merely pointing out that you are arguing like a person who argues for the existence of god. I have no problem with that, do you?Joshuadrooney wrote:Better get used to that I'm afraid, that's generally how it works when people have free speech. We're allowed to present an argument in any way that does not infringe laws.
As for definitions, I'm afraid you need to look up the definition of a much more fundamental word, that being
And I'm still waiting for your examples of medicines. Surely some must exist, given that we have a word for them.2a drug or other preparation for the treatment or prevention of disease: give her some medicine