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BigDanHaze wrote:Just to clear up a few things:
First BOTH states have legalized weed for ANYone over 21, not just residents of that state.
Second each state has 30 days to enact the new law not 6 months like erroneously reported( they have until Dec 2013 to start selling the mj in retail establishments) but possesion will be legal in the next few weeks.

Not that I'm doubting ya, but where does it say that? I thought I read all the legal mumbo-jumbo as best as I could and really only noticed the late dates of OCT/DEC 2013.

redeyezman wrote:

BigDanHaze wrote:Just to clear up a few things:
First BOTH states have legalized weed for ANYone over 21, not just residents of that state.
Second each state has 30 days to enact the new law not 6 months like erroneously reported( they have until Dec 2013 to start selling the mj in retail establishments) but possesion will be legal in the next few weeks.

Not that I'm doubting ya, but where does it say that? I thought I read all the legal mumbo-jumbo as best as I could and really only noticed the late dates of OCT/DEC 2013.

Washington’s initiative gives the state a year to establish key rules, but legal possession of marijuana will come into effect there in December 2012.


http://sourcefednews.com/props-and-ball ... he-nation/

Why all the guessing?
Read the Amendments, they are very clear.
Any person over the age of 21... don't read into it that this means residents only.
Neither amendment limits access to state residents only, period. They couldn't, the US isn't the EU.
MMJ is a horse of a different color, unless a State has reciprocity with another.

As for effective dates, that too can be found in the wording, but with Colorado, one would have to further read the State Constitution.
I think it's Article 5 Section 1 (4)... this explains what must be done, when, and by whom (the Governor).
Short version - In both States, the Amendments/Props become effective 6 Dec 2012, with detailed language for manufacturing, distribution, sales, etc... due later next year.
So, can we now PLEASE move on?
Next...
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Stoners...

DENVER (AP) - Hit the slopes - and then a bong?

Marijuana legalization votes this week in Colorado and Washington state don't just set up an epic state-federal showdown on drug law for residents. The measures also open the door for marijuana tourism.

Both marijuana measures make marijuana possession in small amounts OK for all adults over 21 - not just state residents but visitors, too. Tourists may not be able to pack their bowls along with their bags, but as long as out-of-state tourists purchase and use the drug while in Colorado or Washington, they wouldn't violate the marijuana measures.

Of course, that's assuming the recreational marijuana measures take effect at all. That was very much in doubt Friday as the states awaited word on possible lawsuits from the U.S. Department of Justice asserting federal supremacy over drug law.

So the future of marijuana tourism in Colorado and Washington is hazy. But that hasn't stopped rampant speculation, especially in Colorado, where tourism is the No. 2 industry thanks to the Rocky Mountains and a vibrant ski industry.

The day after Colorado approved recreational marijuana by a wide margin, the headline in the Aspen Times asked, "Aspendam?" referring to Amsterdam's marijuana cafes.

Colorado's tourism director, Al White, tried to downplay the prospect of a new marijuana tourism boom.

"It won't be as big a deal as either side hopes or fears," White said.

Maybe not. But many are asking about marijuana tourism.

Ski resorts are "certainly watching it closely," said Jennifer Rudolph of Colorado Ski Country USA, a trade association that represents 21 Colorado resorts.

Any plans for an adults-only après lounge where skiers could get more than an Irish coffee to numb their aches?

"There's a lot that remains to be seen," Rudolph said with a chuckle. "I guess you could say we're waiting for the smoke to clear."

The Colorado counties where big ski resorts are located seem to have made up their minds. The marijuana measure passed by overwhelming margins, with more support than in less visited areas.

The home county of Aspen approved the marijuana measure more than 3-to-1. More than two-thirds approved marijuana in the home county of Colorado's largest ski resort, Vail. The home county of Telluride ski resort gave marijuana legalization its most lopsided victory, nearly 8 in 10 favoring the measure.

"Some folks might come to Colorado to enjoy some marijuana as will be their right. So what?" said Betty Aldworth, advocacy director for the Colorado marijuana campaign.

Washington state already sees a version of marijuana tourism.

Every summer on the shores of the Puget Sound, Seattle is host to "Hempfest," which according to organizers attracted around 250,000 people over three days this year. For those three days, people are largely left alone to smoke publically at a local park, even as police stand by.

"People travel to Seattle from other states and countries to attend Seattle Hempfest every year to experience the limited freedom that happens at the event," said executive director Vivian McPeak. "It's reasonable to assume that people will travel to Washington assuming that the federal government doesn't interfere."

McPeak draw parallels to Amsterdam where an annual "Cannabis Cup" attracts tourists from all over the world and Vancouver, British Columbia, which has lax marijuana rules that have borne marijuana cafes drawing travelers.

Amsterdam's marijuana tourism in a hazy spot these days, though. The incoming Dutch government suggested a national "weed pass" that would have been available only to residents and that would have effectively banned tourists from Amsterdam's marijuana cafes. The "weed pass" idea was scrapped, but under a provisional governing pact unveiled this week, Dutch cities can bar foreigners from weed shops if they choose.

Should the American laws stand, McPeak foresees the same happening to Seattle.

Marijuana "has been an emerging market in some states. It's reasonable to assume that entrepreneurs will try to take advantage of this in a new way."

In Denver, some feared that Colorado marijuana vote could deter tourists, not to mention business visitors.

"Colorado's brand will be damaged, and we may attract fewer conventions and see a decline in leisure travel," Visit Denver CEO Richard Scharf said in a statement before the vote.

Colorado's governor opposed the measure but said after its passage that he didn't envision marijuana tourism materializing.

"I don't think that's going to happen," Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper said.

"They're going to flock here to buy marijuana as if they're going to take it back? On an airplane? That seems unlikely to me. I think those kinds of fears are overblown."

Colorado's measure specifically bans public use of the drug. But guidelines for commercial sales are still to be worked out. The state's 536 medical marijuana dispensaries are banned from allowing on-site consumption, meaning patients have to take the drug home with them. But lawmakers could set different rules for recreational marijuana shops, including the possibility of marijuana cafes.

Marijuana backers downplayed the impact on tourism. Aldworth pointed out that pot-smoking tourists wouldn't exactly be new. Colorado ski slopes already are dotted with "smoke shacks," old mining cabins that have been illicitly repurposed as places to smoke pot out of the cold. And the ski resort town of Breckenridge dropped criminal penalties for marijuana use two years ago.

"Some folks come to Colorado and enjoy some marijuana while they are here today," Aldworth said.

The sheriff of the county including Aspen was sanguine about the prospects of pot-smoking visitors.

"For me, it's going to be live and let live. If people want to come to Colorado because pot is legal - and that's the sole reason - it's up to them," Pitkin County Sheriff Joe DiSalvo told The Aspen Times. "I am not the lifestyle police."

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USBONGLORD wrote:DENVER (AP) - Hit the slopes - and then a bong?


The home county of Aspen approved the marijuana measure more than 3-to-1. More than two-thirds approved marijuana in the home county of Colorado's largest ski resort, Vail. The home county of Telluride ski resort gave marijuana legalization its most lopsided victory, nearly 8 in 10 favoring the measure.

"Some folks might come to Colorado to enjoy some marijuana as will be their right. So what?" said Betty Aldworth, advocacy director for the Colorado marijuana campaign.


Marijuana backers downplayed the impact on tourism. Aldworth pointed out that pot-smoking tourists wouldn't exactly be new. Colorado ski slopes already are dotted with "smoke shacks," old mining cabins that have been illicitly repurposed as places to smoke pot out of the cold. And the ski resort town of Breckenridge dropped criminal penalties for marijuana use two years ago.

"Some folks come to Colorado and enjoy some marijuana while they are here today," Aldworth said.

The sheriff of the county including Aspen was sanguine about the prospects of pot-smoking visitors.

"For me, it's going to be live and let live. If people want to come to Colorado because pot is legal - and that's the sole reason - it's up to them," Pitkin County Sheriff Joe DiSalvo told The Aspen Times. "I am not the lifestyle police."

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Right on Coloradans, you lead the way . Those voting numbers are excellent. I had no idea Colorado was such a liberated oasis, and it must be an oasis to judge by the arrest figures in the states https://www.coffeeshopdirect.com/forum/viewt ... 18&t=22161.

Your Friends the DEA Already said the second the two 2 state do Legalize it ..whit 2months everything will come to an END ... Keep Dreaming cause aint happening in r life time

How about the Cannibis Cup in Denver next year? You guys that are going this year in Amsterdam should start the buzz with the promoters and get it going.

Adamster wrote:Your Friends the DEA Already said the second the two 2 state do Legalize it ..whit 2months everything will come to an END ... Keep Dreaming cause aint happening in r life time

Huh?

Adamster wrote:Your Friends the DEA Already said the second the two 2 state do Legalize it ..whit 2months everything will come to an END ... Keep Dreaming cause aint happening in r life time

Your right about the dea trying to stop the movement, but you are wrong about the out come. The tide is turning against the prohibition that we know today. When the dea is in those two states, the other 48 will be looking for there tax revenue, est 40 million 1st year in CO alone. I am calling my state rep and telling him I want 40 million for my schools from a tax on pot. Talk about higher education rant over

Fuck the DEA, maybe this is the time they get shafted. There will now follow a blizzard of anti pot propaganda; and this of course is not the end of the adventure but there will eventually be a limit to how much the DEA can spend defending there "lifestyle policing" approach, against such a popular vote.

I reckon the citizens of these liberated states are probably about ready to outspend them .

The Feds are going to make a stink we all knew that. I personnaly think they are in more of a fight then they think, Coloradians will fight them on this just because we don't like muddling in State affairs.
Even if the retail end of 64 never happens (I think it will) it will still be legal to have weed in your pocket and grow some plants at home. A great step forward in the war on the war on drugs.

here's whats fucked up.

the FEDs... the DEA... etc.

they (supposedly) work for US.

yet, they are against us.

even though the PEOPLE voted for this to pass.

makes no sense.

Adamster wrote:Your Friends the DEA Already said the second the two 2 state do Legalize it ..whit 2months everything will come to an END ... Keep Dreaming cause aint happening in r life time

Your absolutely clueless, put yer head back in the sand and continue....

Colorado's governor doesn't see marijuana tourism developing, what an idiot. There are tens of millions of Americans and foreigners who are thrilled about the chance to travel to Colorado and walk into a shop and order from a menu of fine herb, concentrates, and edibles. The ski resorts will also see a boost in tourism, especially if they decide to embrace the law change and open on site shops and smoking areas.