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smokeze wrote:nice done man, will help some people i think, hehe.
maybe this will also help seombody, i do it slightly different, and its faster i think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBtbztsrrYI



grtz smokeze.

A-1 top notch my man,...gaps blazzed ,......you can also burn off the extra paper,...

sensismiler wrote:
Slim papers and tasty weed made me realise its not worth the extra effort. Rolling with a roach is much easier imo. i always roll the joint using tje roach as a sort of pulley. not sure if that makes sense

True. Know what you mean about using the roach as a pulley. Need to make sure it is of a sufficiently springy material but not too springy. Helps create a nice gentle cone as well.

The legend that is Gapie taught me in Voyagers one hot day in August.

The hardest thing was getting the brain to ignore a habit it has done for the past 25 years but once mastered there is no going back.

Much cleaner, tastier smoke all round

Yea you know the score treetop! I find rizla boxes to be perfect. Soft enough to roll a round roach yet stiff enough to hold its shape during rolling and enough spring to make a nice tight roll around the roach.

When I was back rolling I thought the difference was incredible. That was until I had a lazy night and rolled normally. I could tell no difference so I carried on being lazy

Hoping to ditch the rizla and baccy completely after my April A'dam trip. Gonna get me a MFLB

Grunt, I know what you mean about breaking the habit. It took me a good few weeks to consistently remember to do it

sensismiler wrote:... you can always roll it without licking and then lick it after. as in lick the non gummed part If you do it enough it will soak through and make the gummed part tacky enough to stick it. Its cheating though

That's not cheating, that's the whole trick of it... if you lick it first it's almost impossible to roll

LionofJudah wrote:

sensismiler wrote:... you can always roll it without licking and then lick it after. as in lick the non gummed part If you do it enough it will soak through and make the gummed part tacky enough to stick it. Its cheating though

That's not cheating, that's the whole trick of it... if you lick it first it's almost impossible to roll

Now you tell me

The mist has cleared. The penny has dropped. Going to try again later.

gromit wrote:

smokeze wrote:nice done man, will help some people i think, hehe.
maybe this will also help seombody, i do it slightly different, and its faster i think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBtbztsrrYI



grtz smokeze.

A-1 top notch my man,...gaps blazzed ,......you can also burn off the extra paper,...

thnx man.
i now, but my mother told me tht fire is dangerous! hahaha, lol.

grtz smokeze.

treetop wrote:

LionofJudah wrote:

sensismiler wrote:... you can always roll it without licking and then lick it after. as in lick the non gummed part If you do it enough it will soak through and make the gummed part tacky enough to stick it. Its cheating though

That's not cheating, that's the whole trick of it... if you lick it first it's almost impossible to roll

Now you tell me

The mist has cleared. The penny has dropped. Going to try again later.

My friend TT, the stoner...
...and I'll bet even your worst roll is better than my best.
...

Thanks LoJ...

LionofJudah wrote:

sensismiler wrote:... you can always roll it without licking and then lick it after. as in lick the non gummed part If you do it enough it will soak through and make the gummed part tacky enough to stick it. Its cheating though

That's not cheating, that's the whole trick of it... if you lick it first it's almost impossible to roll

Really? I dont think its that hard to lick it first. superior skills maybe? No there was always a bit by the roach i couldnt get right licking first. Thats the only bit i did your way

20 years of smoking and i still can't hand roll... Dunno why, but i always manage to mangle it into a misshaped, variable width tube of paper... Most of the weed ends up back on the table. Think i must have some sort of deficiency... Thank god for rolling mats!

(incidentally, it took me over an hour and a half to find a rolling mat in Amsterdam last visit... Most of the headshop guys said that either no one uses them anymore or, at least three guys had NEVER HEARD OF THEM! ...What's up with that?)

So I tried again and it didn't work out too badly. Not too well either

It stuck then it came unstuck then it stuck again and I had to use another gummy strip to repair so I ended up with the same paper but more on the filter area as a repair!

The thing is I got to the point where I can roll pretty well the other way unless I'm totally wankered so getting confidence in the other way is going to take a hands on lesson I'd say.

How about a rolling TnT?

treetop wrote:So I tried again and it didn't work out too badly. Not too well either
How about a rolling TnT?

LOL OK, Im @ Voyagers for a couple more days