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Re: The best way to have no paranoias;)

Posted: Fri 22nd Feb 2013 08:38 am
by steveierfc1872
Apollo wrote:
la2019 wrote:Have a beer - don't get drunk (unless you want of course), but just a little something to take the edge off. Might help.
Can't agree with this less. Never mix! Bad times
im with you appollo never mix the 2 ive had a bad experience through mixing weed with drink

Re: The best way to have no paranoias;)

Posted: Fri 22nd Feb 2013 11:21 am
by danny211204
Id have a lok at voyagers they are very knowledge able and there amnesia or super bio lemon haze are a nice atsrt to a trip, if they have califorinia amnesia i found it to be very mellow chilled buzz. buts thats only imho.peace have a good trip

Re: The best way to have no paranoias;)

Posted: Fri 22nd Feb 2013 11:38 am
by skeeta
treetop wrote:Try Chocolope. It never seems to have an effect on anyone. You should be safe with that. :mrgreen:

However Chocolope remains a popular amsterdam strain for a reason. It is nice and mellow effect.
I'd go for this one.

I'd also steer away from pure sativas. I like getting very high but only when in a safe environment when I'm with stimulating company. Great mind expanding possibilities.

However with the good comes bad sometimes when the mind is expanded so I'd stick to getting stoned instead for now then start to experiment with indica dominant strains like 90/10 or 80/20 in favor of the indica. Like these combinations cos they stir up the mind a little but wrap it in cotton wool first :!:

Stoned is safer and more fun in a big, new place IMHO. I really like exploring while stoned. When I'm too high I get a bit skittish and jumpy. :shock: Totally understand your concerns about staying in a safe place mentally. Very important consideration. :idea: Achievable with a little planning. Again IMHO.

+1

Re: The best way to have no paranoias;)

Posted: Fri 22nd Feb 2013 09:05 pm
by Lafe
Opus132 wrote:I believe that the one of the main factors that leads to paranoia is the mere fact that weed is 100% illegal in most of the world. If you keep reminding yourself that it is de facto legalised or decriminalised in the Dam, that will take care of much the anxiety that you typically experience. Having said that, it is true that there are some strains that lead to a racier or speedier high which can provoke paranoia for some people, especially if you don't have a high tolerance. Lafe correctly points out that 100% sativas can really get you going if you're not accustomed to the effect. Last trip I started out with a 100% sativa: Quazar Haze from the Grey Area. While I wasn't paranoid, the high was definitely racey or speedy and later that night I wanted to just chill out and relax. I stopped by the original Dampkring and asked the guy for a mellow, relaxed high. I was surprised when the guy recommended a sativa called "C5." It was very relaxing and calming! Probably the most relaxing, all's right with the world stone I ever had was another recommendation from the same shop: "Ol' Skool Skunk." Again, it came highly recommended by the BT after I described exactly what I was looking for. I guess the best advice is to seek out a coffeeshop with real good budtenders and tell him/her what effect you want. I've found the budtenders at the Grey Area, the original Dampkring, De Kuil/420 Cafe and Utopia to be extremely helpful. Siberie is a real nice cs with a friendly staff and relaxed atmosphere in one of the most picturesque areas in the Dam - same for La Tertulia. Have a cold beverage with a lot of sugar handy for that first smoke just in case and remember that you will not be busted or lose your job for merely smoking a plant. You will have the time of your life! Enjoy :) :)

By the way, indica or indica dominant strains, such as Blueberry and White Widow make for a calm, relaxed stone. Both are widely available throughout Amsterdam. De Kuil/420 Cafe always has good samples of both. The old Rokerij (R.I.P. :( ) used to have some real tasty White Widow. What a shame.

I think "anxiety" is a better term than "paranoia", having thought about this for a couple of days.

Anxiety effects are well documented, and many people are prone to it. If you happen to be one of those people, as Opus points out go with nice Indica dominant strains, or pure Indica if you can get it. Surely a nice Kush would get the job done. HB usually has top shelf Kush strains @ Voyagers.

Another option would be Hindu Kush from Media. I also stand by my Rookies recommendation; it worked well for me and IIRC is €8 per gram.

Good luck: find a strain that treats your head well and have a great time. Opus found the "all is right with the world strain" for him (her? :-), and that is a worthy goal.

Re: The best way to have no paranoias;)

Posted: Sat 23rd Feb 2013 04:10 pm
by gronin
steveierfc1872 wrote:
Apollo wrote:
la2019 wrote:Have a beer - don't get drunk (unless you want of course), but just a little something to take the edge off. Might help.
Can't agree with this less. Never mix! Bad times
im with you appollo never mix the 2 ive had a bad experience through mixing weed with drink
For myself, good beer and a smoke go together like salt and pepper. Does me great but clearly not for everyone.

As no-one else has even touched on it; perhaps some people's mental predisposition is not suited to weed? Some are terrible drunks. Some don't take cocaine or ecstasy well (I count myself in that group).

You can cram a square peg in a round hole but it won't be pretty.

(Used to have a friend who was well into his crack and meth but always refused a spliff as it "fucked him up". Go figure.)

Re: The best way to have no paranoias;)

Posted: Sat 23rd Feb 2013 05:03 pm
by worldcitizen1723
gronin wrote:
As no-one else has even touched on it; perhaps some people's mental predisposition is not suited to weed? Some are terrible drunks. Some don't take cocaine or ecstasy well (I count myself in that group).

You can cram a square peg in a round hole but it won't be pretty.

(Used to have a friend who was well into his crack and meth but always refused a spliff as it "fucked him up". Go figure.)

+5

Very true

Re: The best way to have no paranoias;)

Posted: Sat 23rd Feb 2013 07:48 pm
by mafufero
worldcitizen1723 wrote:
gronin wrote:
As no-one else has even touched on it; perhaps some people's mental predisposition is not suited to weed? Some are terrible drunks. Some don't take cocaine or ecstasy well (I count myself in that group).

You can cram a square peg in a round hole but it won't be pretty.

(Used to have a friend who was well into his crack and meth but always refused a spliff as it "fucked him up". Go figure.)

+5

Very true


Have always wondered about that. I've got this musician friend who is a hard-core drunk, sometimes blacks out for a day or so. Had to bail him out of jail once, after a DWI. He drinks beer for breakfast. But he won't smoke pot, says it makes him really depressed.

Re: The best way to have no paranoias;)

Posted: Sun 24th Feb 2013 12:06 am
by gronin
mafufero wrote: Have always wondered about that. I've got this musician friend who is a hard-core drunk, sometimes blacks out for a day or so. Had to bail him out of jail once, after a DWI. He drinks beer for breakfast. But he won't smoke pot, says it makes him really depressed.
People see things in a myriad of ways - look at this thread. Some people find smoking weed makes them anxious or paranoid but don't see the problem as themselves. They're just smoking the wrong weed apparently. I don't see it that way but they do. Who am I to dispute their consciousness...

Re: The best way to have no paranoias;)

Posted: Sun 24th Feb 2013 08:43 am
by treetop
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Re: The best way to have no paranoias;)

Posted: Sun 24th Feb 2013 01:36 pm
by gronin
treetop wrote:
That is a rather limited way of looking at this question. IMHO.

Do you have any food allergies? If you do is the problem with the food or your body? Why should weed be any different? It is something you are putting in your body.

Some types of weed suit certain personality types and others do not. It makes perfect sense to choose your weed accordingly.
In the case of food allergies, the issue would be with the individual body as most other people could eat peanuts, lactose or whatever with no ill effects.

How much mental stress should be endured in the quest to find the 'right' weed? Would you get it right first time? Could any other person - with their own unique psychology - make a realistic recommendation?

I've taken all sorts of drugs in my time - mostly to see what all the fuss was about. Some agreed, some did not. I personally wouldn't be driven to keep trying the 'bad' ones to find some drug nirvana... but that's me. Evidently some do continue the quest. I just hope they find what they're after without too much mental stress.

I guess "paranoia" or "anxiety" is more tolerable to others than to myself. My life gives me enough stress without seeking it out for a buzz.

Re: The best way to have no paranoias;)

Posted: Sun 24th Feb 2013 02:41 pm
by treetop
[quote="gronin"][quote="treetop"]

That is a rather limited way of looking at this question. IMHO.
n/t

Re: The best way to have no paranoias;)

Posted: Sun 24th Feb 2013 02:48 pm
by worldcitizen1723
treetop wrote:
gronin wrote:
treetop wrote:
That is a rather limited way of looking at this question. IMHO.

Do you have any food allergies? If you do is the problem with the food or your body? Why should weed be any different? It is something you are putting in your body.

Some types of weed suit certain personality types and others do not. It makes perfect sense to choose your weed accordingly.
In the case of food allergies, the issue would be with the individual body as most other people could eat peanuts, lactose or whatever with no ill effects.

How much mental stress should be endured in the quest to find the 'right' weed? Would you get it right first time? Could any other person - with their own unique psychology - make a realistic recommendation?

I've taken all sorts of drugs in my time - mostly to see what all the fuss was about. Some agreed, some did not. I personally wouldn't be driven to keep trying the 'bad' ones to find some drug nirvana... but that's me. Evidently some do continue the quest. I just hope they find what they're after without too much mental stress.

I guess "paranoia" or "anxiety" is more tolerable to others than to myself. My life gives me enough stress without seeking it out for a buzz.
I liked your post. It filled me full of questions....

Are you aware there are different types of weed known as strains? Are you aware there is a difference between high and stoned? Do you know some types of weed will get you high where as others will get you stoned. Did you know that being high is a very different experience from being stoned?
Do you like to experience different mental states and experiment with new thoughts? Are you prepared to take the risk of feeling a certain way to attain this goal? Are you ready to take the proper steps to load the game in your favor and give yourself a chance to reach higher consciousness? Do you even believe this is possible with or without cannabis?

Should you try and think a little more deeply about this and other subjects before coming to a judgement?

Only questions for you my friend. Good luck with the answers. There is gold in those hills, should you care to dig.

Treetop
You just have never been with someone who really can not tolerate weed - it would make your questions laughable..... Just sayin..

Re: The best way to have no paranoias;)

Posted: Sun 24th Feb 2013 02:52 pm
by treetop
n/t

Re: The best way to have no paranoias;)

Posted: Sun 24th Feb 2013 03:03 pm
by worldcitizen1723
treetop wrote:
worldcitizen1723 wrote:
Treetop
You just have never been with someone who really can not tolerate weed - it would make your questions laughable..... Just sayin..
4% of people apparently. I pity them as others pity me for my numerous food allergies.

Not really what we are talking about though is it?
I believe that was exactly what Gronin was speaking of. But feel free to take it in any direction you like. Like all things, weed is just not for everyone and some need to avoid it as opposed to stressing about what strain to try.

Re: The best way to have no paranoias;)

Posted: Sun 24th Feb 2013 04:44 pm
by RvanSteensel
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