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treetop wrote:
I liked your post. It filled me full of questions....

Are you aware there are different types of weed known as strains? YES Are you aware there is a difference between high and stoned? YES Do you know some types of weed will get you high where as others will get you stoned. YES Did you know that being high is a very different experience from being stoned? YES
Do you like to experience different mental states and experiment with new thoughts? Not so much at my age Are you prepared to take the risk of feeling a certain way to attain this goal? No - for the same reasons I don't do Acid or DMT these days Are you ready to take the proper steps to load the game in your favor and give yourself a chance to reach higher consciousness? How would you know with certainty in advance? Higher consciousness? Do you justify whiskey or crack in the same pseudo-spiritual way? Do you even believe this is possible with or without cannabis? I ain't a shamen - I like not being sober in various ways. I find it fun.

Should you try and think a little more deeply about this and other subjects before coming to a judgement?

Unsure how I have provided a judgment here. I express my own opinions and am old and ugly enough to know that people will do what people do irrespective of my views. To say that paranoia is an intrinsic part of smoking is akin to accepting that violence is an intrinstic part of boozing. Mind you, talking shite seems to be irredeemably linked to coke use... Did I say it's all just my opinion?

Should you try and be less patronising of views differing to your own?

Only questions for you my friend. Good luck with the answers. There is gold in those hills, should you care to dig.

Sailor59 wrote:I have had bad paranoia/anxiety once or twice in the Dam. Both times it was a combination of being solo, not knowing the Dam very well and sativas. It has been said before but you really need to be comfortable with your surroundings and feel safe. If you feel like that, go and buy an Indica/Hybrid, fly back to the hotel, put the TV on and get high.

I found it is all in the mind and by knowing your surroundings better and feeling comfortable the anxiety will go away.

gronin wrote: Unsure how I have provided a judgment here. I express my own opinions and am old and ugly enough to know that people will do what people do irrespective of my views. To say that paranoia is an intrinsic part of smoking is akin to accepting that violence is an intrinstic part of boozing. Mind you, talking shite seems to be irredeemably linked to coke use... Did I say it's all just my opinion?

(I'm starting the get the impression there's a distinct orthodoxy on this site which I clearly haven't understood...)

Sailor59 wrote:I have had bad paranoia/anxiety once or twice in the Dam. Both times it was a combination of being solo, not knowing the Dam very well and sativas. It has been said before but you really need to be comfortable with your surroundings and feel safe. If you feel like that, go and buy an Indica/Hybrid, fly back to the hotel, put the TV on and get high.

I found it is all in the mind and by knowing your surroundings better and feeling comfortable the anxiety will go away.

beq00000 wrote:

gronin wrote: Unsure how I have provided a judgment here. I express my own opinions and am old and ugly enough to know that people will do what people do irrespective of my views. To say that paranoia is an intrinsic part of smoking is akin to accepting that violence is an intrinstic part of boozing. Mind you, talking shite seems to be irredeemably linked to coke use... Did I say it's all just my opinion?

(I'm starting the get the impression there's a distinct orthodoxy on this site which I clearly haven't understood...)

I don't think that's a fair comparison, Gronin. Violence is an action, paranoia is a feeling. I think a more appropriate comparison would be alcohol and nausea. Much like nausea with alcohol, Paranoia can be a side effect of cannabis usage for some people. For most people, this is most often a consequence of overindulgence, most often with sativas. If I were to speculate, I'd say that the "racy" effects associated with those strains can magnify the feelings of paranoia.

Plain and simple, if someone feels that cannabis isn't for them - they shouldn't use it. Some people are more sensitive to particular drugs, or particular effects of those drugs than others (leaving aside the 4% of people who have physical allergies). So basically, I'm agreeing with what you said, "some people's mental predisposition is not suited to weed".

As to orthodoxy, this forum seems less prone to it than others, IMO. But, given the forum subject, and the association of paranoia with overindulgence, the natural response to thread like this is to post the typical advice to light smokers new to Amsterdam, namely:

1) Ask the budtender
2) Steer clear of the high end of the menus, particularly sativa strains
3) Take it slow
4) Keep a sweet drink nearby in case of a whitey

All except number four have already been mentioned in this thread, so I figured I might as well throw it in. :lol:

treetop wrote: Maybe it is paranoia but I get the feeling you may be a troll

Just kidding or am I don't be paranoid.

Nice work with the red text post dissection. Bit of a give away though.

gronin wrote:

treetop wrote: Maybe it is paranoia but I get the feeling you may be a troll

Just kidding or am I don't be paranoid.

Nice work with the red text post dissection. Bit of a give away though.

A give away as what exactly? You can't leave a comment like that unqualified.

In two pages about cannabis and paranoia, not one person even hinted at maybe.. just maybe..not smoking it? Seemed a glaring omission to me. So stating the bleedin' obvious is trolling? Saying that cannabis isn't good for all people all the time is trolling? That's the orthodoxy...

geoffk wrote:

Lafe wrote: In the previous post in this thread, I stated "some people should not use cannabis at all".

FYI