Drooping leaves - thoughts?

[Cerebral]

There's a lot of variables here dude, could be one of many things that's stunting bud development. As you say we've had hot temps lately and it's almost impossible to keep grow temps under control in the hot summer months (unless you're growing in a cellar or using air con) so the plants are more than likely suffering from heat stress, take it you've not been monitoring canopy temps? Also from skimming the posts it sounds like it's a very basic setup? Have you checked for light leaks? This will interfere with flowering.

From the switch to 12/12 it can take 4-6 weeks before you start seeing proper bud formation so you might just need to chill.

[MrSifter]

If you are using soil then dont water every day. My best advice is to join up to http://www.thctalk.com/cannabis-forum/forum.php and prepare yourself for a lot of reading up on how to grow your own properly

[free_phil_spector]

Thanks again fellas.

I dont think it's a light leak or watering issue as both have been receiving the same treatment in the same environment since flowering. They're different strains so maybe it's just a slower grower. Perhaps I do need to just bide my time

[USbongLord]

A pic would sure help...and so would ph...some of this advice boggles my mind...

[George Hanson]

Boggles the mnd eh...lol....

No man, the advice given with no pics etc is the best one can do with no pics...
and PH in soil... No fella, not atall... it is not needed in soil.

No bad advice there for sure. The bad bit of advice would be telling someone they need to PH in soil, when they don't.

The mind boggles....

[Cerebral]

A pic would sure help...and so would ph...some of this advice boggles my mind...

Would you mind elaborating on what advice you're referring to?

[George Hanson]

I'm assuming he meant my advice as he mentioned PH....

No problem there,that's cool... but I had to chuckle about "some of this advice and ones mind boggling"...
then he goes onto give bad advice himself... lol

Folks, if you are growing in soil, don't PH. There is ABSOLUTELY no need to add that nasty sh!t to your girls....

Remember, KISS... Keep It Simple Stupid. And you will reap the rewards.....

Peace out..

GH...

[BigDanHaze]

I'm assuming he meant my advice as he mentioned PH....

No problem there,that's cool... but I had to chuckle about "some of this advice and ones mind boggling"...
then he goes onto give bad advice himself... lol


Folks, if you are growing in soil, don't PH. There is ABSOLUTELY no need to add that nasty sh!t to your girls....

Remember, KISS... Keep It Simple Stupid. And you will reap the rewards.....

Peace out..

GH...

Worse advice ever, agree with usbl. U defiantly should not be giving any grow advice as u obviously have no clue.....

[George Hanson]

geez fella. How rude. and how wrong you are.

You are telling me that you need to PH whilst growing in soil?..

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG......

And ya say I int got a clue eh? WOW.... And I shouldn't be giving growing advice? PMSL.....errrr... ok then fair enough, but if you knew all about growing like you seem to think you do (you clearly don't.) You would see how much that advice shows it is infact you that int got a clue...
Advising to PH in soil is wrong..FACT. there is no need to ph soil whatsoever, and if you knew owt about soil growing you would know this. And you say i int got a clue eh!. lol... It is clearly you that int got a clue and shouldn't be giving grow advice, that's for sure.

Oh well, only trying to be helpful.

You can all jump on me and say i'm wrong but i int. If you in fact knew anything about growing in soil you would know that the soil buffers the PH and adding PH to soil can cause more problems than necessary. Theres just no need for it. It sure doesn't help the plant and benefit growing in soil none, so why add nasty chemicals that there is no need for? I don't get that way of thnking atall...... but if you want too add that nasty shit to your feed then go ahead. it makes no odds to me.. Just jumping on me and saying i int got a clue couldn't be further from the truth though.

To tell me I int got a clue and then advise to PH is laughable, it really is.

I'll say it again, DON'T PH in soil. there really is no need at all guy's, really. NO SHIT....LOL

You might not want the best possible end results and the best tasting, well grown weed but lots of people do, and by adding that nasty shit to it does no favours whatsoever... Me, I want the cleanest, finest herb I can possibly get and that don't come from adding nasty nasty chemicals when there is NO need to WHATSOEVER...

No worries tho. You will no doubt come back saying i'm wrong, ignorance is bliss eh! lol.

We can debate/talk about this in length during the CC in november at voyagers if ya like...lol

Peace Out...

GH...

[USbongLord]

Yer debate won't last long after ya hit the cheisel....and grasshopper,ya might know some things but this my love and when I see bad advise I'm gonna say...see ya in November..make sure ya cut and paste some real good reason for no ph in soil.after all it's in the water and nutrients ya use ..so it goes into the soil....then I want to see some of yer no ph weed,can't wait,I love a good banter

[George Hanson]

LOL...

No worries usbl man, it's my love too man. it's not bad advice tho bud, it really isn't...

I won't be hitting no grasshopper man.... Grasshopper be fooked.. . (i know)

If you could see/smell/taste the weed/hash i'm smoking at the mo you would want to come here and skip the cc my man, and skip PH too thinking about it... LOL...
I take it you PH in soil then USBL? there is no need for it at all, your just adding chemicals that are not needed, which in turn will effect the final product.
Anyway, theres no need to add PH in soil man.....And that is a FACT.. (must be true it's in caps...

I have been there, done it over the years when I was a novice grower in years gone by and knew no better, Now I do know better and theres NO nasty chems in my bud anymore, especially the shit theres no need for. and there sure is no need for PH in soil, sure none of that nasty PH shit going through my prized buds... all organic for me my friend. (organic as can be indoors anyway)... No nasty chems go through my gals.

Peace out man, and hope to catch up with some of you in the dam for sure, I'll bring some of my hash with me for you too sample, the bud is just too stinky to make it too the dam...

GH...

PS... Don't PH in soil.....

[milehigh]

Sounds like over watering to me. The soil needs to dry some to be able to get oxygen to the roots. A wet pot will not allow that and growth will stunt or stop. My best guess with the info provided.

PH is the measure of acidity or alkaline in a given substrate, additive, etc. George Hanson is right when he says that soil does not require an adjusted ph generally. It does buffer what ever is dumped into it and adjusts itself to neutral naturally if it is alive and well. However, if your water supply has a very high Ph say 8.5 or above, it is a good idea to lower it a bit with a good ph adjuster. Lemon juice works well for example. The concentrated stuff at the grow store is not a dangerous chemical and it does not require dangerous chemicals to adjust Ph. Cannabis likes the neutral to slightly acidic range but can grow well even if off by a fair amount. I grow in soil and have never had to adjust Ph. I also grow in Rockwool and use Ph down when flushing as the GH nutrients put the Ph where it should be without adding any Ph down.

Do you adjust Ph BL in your soil grow?

[George Hanson]

Finally, someone who speaks a bit of sense.....

[USbongLord]

its the water like I said.and yeah I did when I did that..but the water got the ph adjustment...sorry if I misunderstood..the water went in the soil so the ph got adjusted ..yer water must be perfect..so good for you,and it is...the rest of us adjust using ph buffers...so the ph GOES IN THE SOIL....i dumped soil growing years ago as having dirt is dirty and clean is good...I have rockwolled for years no and will not look back..everything is perfect,floranova has a good buffer

[George Hanson]

It's all good guy's, I can take it. I am the new guy here afterall....

Not bad for no PH adjustment eh BL?....




A little while later, after a bit of a chong' Bit stoned now and after re-reading I'm confused... lol, don't take much when stoned.. Ahem... I was talkin about PH down adjustment with soil. I just assumed it was that chemical shit PH down or sim that the op was using to PH the water before watering, just jumping to conclusions, sorry..... that's where I was...

Annnnnyway, let's move on....
But still, no need to PH the water when using soil........

To the OP, Sorry for sorta derailing ya thread man, just trying to help bud, it's back on track from here on in bud...

You need to follow a simple routine to get along in soil...

Some good tips here already to help you along, hope you sort it and all comes up trumps for ya bud.....

Nite nite folks, it's been emotional...... lol .... all in good spirits.

GH