Drooping leaves - thoughts?

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I couldn't disagree with you more about PH adjustment in soil, maybe not so quick to show signs of bad PH in soil as compared to the rapid decline seen in a hydro setup but I have seen its effects many time personally and will continue to adjust my ph in all my current and future crops.
You have your methods I have mine but I do believe you are dead wrong on this topic...Good Luck!
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It does sound like your over feeding it, you need to let the soil dry out for a bit, I water every 2 days roughly. As for PH generally the ph out the tap is well to high for your girls and needs a bit of ph down after food has been added, 6.2 is perfect for cannabis. There Is nothing wrong about using ph down, it's just citric acid. Ph up is generally chemical shit and iv never needed it. You should never mix them tho.
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I agree about not PHing if using soil , especially if organic . Then again we're blessed with an almost perfectly PHd source so wouldn't need to anyway lol , and I always grew the Chronic lol
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BigDanHaze wrote:I couldn't disagree with you more about PH adjustment in soil, I do believe you are dead wrong on this topic...Good Luck!
Knew you'd be back disagreeing, lol......Next you'll be telling me that I should be flushing for 2 wks prior to harvest..lol

Nope, not at all bud. I GUARANTEE 100% I'm not wrong.... there is no need to use PH down when growing organically in soil.

You carry on PH'ing in soil then man if that's how you roll, i'll carry on organic without any shit added. I know which i'd prefer and what is/not needed, been at this game long enough.

You can disagree with me all you like but it's just not needed and that my friend is a dead certainty.

That's my last words on PH, you PH whores you........ :mrgreen:


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Wow, some wrinkled shirts all over pH'ing water... ease up on the negative attitudes... :)
Some may pH when using soil (organic or otherwise), and some may not, what's the big deal?
When I first started growing, I bought soil from a garden supply center, and never adjusted the pH (didn't even test it until I began studying cannabis farming).
I had some excellent results, but that may not be the same for everyone. The tap water when combined with the commercial soil maintained a sufficient pH balance, even with my total ignorance. Growing hydroponically is something totally different, pH the water or watch the plants die quickly, no way around it (unless using specific nutes or neutral pH water supply, etc..). Note: If a grower is using RO (Reverse Osmosis) water with a kit similar to Advanced Nutrients Perfect pH, that's an exception I would think.
If people think this is BS, do some experimenting. Separate one container, feed it without pH adjusted water. Take a sample of the run-off and test the pH. Go from there with what to do next...
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I just won't argue with mile high,I can't,he does know his shit,and I don't know any big pot words..if he says it, listen,if I'm yoda he is the force...lol..hopefully see him and her in November ..the party will be a good one :mrgreen:and once again no idea of what Ron is talking about :D
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treetop wrote:
Interesting view on soil. Always thought that a 2 week flush in soil was pretty much set in stone. There is another school of thought of course. :shock: Some like to nute all the way to harvest and say that flushing does nothing but waste time. :o

Since taste is hard to quantify the argument rages on with no clear winner in sight. I could offer an opinion on the subject but it would be just more heresay/conjecture the muddy the already clouding waters. :mrgreen:
Yeah i'd agree with the 2 week flush in soil, I can't usually predict exactly when I'm gonna harvest but I aim for 10-14 days after starting a flush. If using organic ferts you could reduce the flush to around 5 days but tbh why wouldn't you want to flush for longer? The plants still getting food from it's leaves so why not save some nutes for the next run?
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No ruffled feathers here man... I was just trying to get my point across after rudely being told I shouldn't give growing advice, I will however carry on where I think I can help, but folk here on this thread obviously do things differently... No probs, horses for courses and all that.

I won't even bother going into my views on flushing etc, I'll only be jumped on, some of you need to do some research and then come back here too apologise to me...
lol... (only kidding)

As you were lads, no hard feelings eh.... :mrgreen:


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Meh, I give plenty of advice, I suppose it might be in the delivery, dunno.... ;) :)
Folk here, and from my experience all over the world, do things differently, so I'm not sure what you are on about? Meh, moving on...
If you won't be bothered going into anything, that's your choice... but to use the excuse that you may be jumped on because of your views, a bit lame perhaps? Why even bother post at all? Ex... Me: High fellow stoners... :) ... Reply: Fuck off... ... see, any posting is subject to bullshit, big deal.
If you have something to contribute, please do, but remember - DON'T FEED THE STONERS!!! This means check your attitude, tone, and language, and if someone disagrees, don't take the piss, simply move on... :) Maybe I should take a little more of my own advice... :oops: ;) :)

Moving on, let's discuss flushing, pros and cons. I've done some light reading, about 9 years worth... doesn't mean I know shit, just that I've been studying horticulture with a focus on cannabis.
Let's get a deck of playing cards, divide them in half... I can provide at least that many pros and cons for flushing, and to be a little anally correct, leaching. As any knowledgeable farmer knows, flushing involves using chemicals and leaching uses clean water... ;)
Well, back to you George Hanson... :)
Happy farming...
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George Hanson wrote:No ruffled feathers here man... I was just trying to get my point across after rudely being told I shouldn't give growing advice, I will however carry on where I think I can help, but folk here on this thread obviously do things differently... No probs, horses for courses and all that.

I won't even bother going into my views on flushing etc, I'll only be jumped on, some of you need to do some research and then come back here too apologise to me...
lol... (only kidding)

As you were lads, no hard feelings eh.... :mrgreen:


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Fuck flushing , why would you starve your girls before harvest !!!!!!

Soil that is
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So it doesn't taste of food and burns nice?
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Take yer soil an put it back out side where it came from :mrgreen: ....I personally will let November talk once again...cheisel it will be,and some gsc ...we shall need milk :mrgreen:
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