Drooping leaves - thoughts?

Including growing tips and questions.
User avatar
George Hanson
Posts: 106
Joined: Sat 10th Aug 2013 11:20 pm
Location: UK

Re: Drooping leaves - thoughts?

Post by George Hanson »

LOL..... :mrgreen:


Life is short, don't hang around waiting for others...
User avatar
George Hanson
Posts: 106
Joined: Sat 10th Aug 2013 11:20 pm
Location: UK

Re: Drooping leaves - thoughts?

Post by George Hanson »

Look guy's, the OP asked for advice, I gave some and now the thread has gone all over the place yuh. The OP probably dunno what the fek to think now.

So let's try and help him with his problem eh.



So, Back to helpng the the OP is it....

@OP...
1) if your in the uk and growing in soil you don't need to adjust the PH... (dump it, as said on numerous tmes in this thread the soil buffers the PH, so no need for it)

2)You need to follow a wet/dry watering cycle... (Do you water your plants until you get run off out of the bottom of your pots?)

3)Environment check> Night/daytime temps, airflow...

4) And feed, well it's a bit more difficult to advise on that over the net, what I will say about feeding is that usually the guidelines on feeds are way off, you need to start low and watch/learn how your plants are going, I can't give much more than that on feeding as I know nothing about what nutes you are using etc....


It could be environment stress, bad watering practices, overwatering, over feeding, excess in temp highs/lows, airflow etc....

Check all these and then report back here and ppl will be able to advise a bit better.
Hope your plants are looking better since you started this thread man, all the best with it bud... :)






And uncle ron, I int got a clue what your talking about man.... ;)



GH... :)
Life is short, don't hang around waiting for others...
User avatar
Uncle Ron
Posts: 3471
Joined: Sat 14th Mar 2009 12:03 am
Location: Lost since '73

Re: Drooping leaves - thoughts?

Post by Uncle Ron »

George Hanson wrote: And uncle ron, I int got a clue what your talking about man.... ;)
GH... :)
Most don't... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Back to the topic at hand, drooping leaves...
"Have a plant that's about to enter full flowering but I've notice some of the leaves surrounding the flowers at the top of the plant are wilting and very thin - they're also very dark green and look a bit lifeless.
Anyone got any idea as to what the 'problem' might be - and is it even a problem? Pre flowering seems to be going quite well and the plant looks otherwise healthy. Am I under/over feeding it or does it not really matter if the leaves close to the flowers are drooping?
Any advice would be good guys - I've been searching the net and on here but cant really find any definitive answer."

I've read the responses given, probably one of them... over watering, close proximity to the light, high temps/humidity...
If they were being overfed, you would probably see some other signs such as leaf burn, a classic symptom of over feeding (high N)...
Something else to think about are the roots... are you able to see any roots? What type of grow medium are you using? Is it possible to remove some of it to have a look at the roots?

Let us know how you get along...
Happy farming...
... :mrgreen:
User avatar
gromit
Posts: 728
Joined: Fri 17th Feb 2012 11:41 pm
Location: Great Lake Stateofmind

Re: Drooping leaves - thoughts?

Post by gromit »

ILL START WITH PUT UP A FUCKIN PHOTO,...THIS IS LIKE A DR. TRYIN TO DIAGNOSE OVER THE PHONE,........ID SAY CANCER,.... :mrgreen:
User avatar
Uncle Ron
Posts: 3471
Joined: Sat 14th Mar 2009 12:03 am
Location: Lost since '73

Re: Drooping leaves - thoughts?

Post by Uncle Ron »

gromit wrote:ILL START WITH PUT UP A FUCKIN PHOTO,...THIS IS LIKE A DR. TRYIN TO DIAGNOSE OVER THE PHONE,........ID SAY CANCER,.... :mrgreen:
+1...
:mrgreen:
User avatar
Simon
Posts: 438
Joined: Mon 3rd Aug 2009 11:23 am
Location: Germany

Re: Drooping leaves - thoughts?

Post by Simon »

a friend has ph of 9 in his tap water. if he doesnt adjust it the plants slowly die. in soil... any suggestions on this?

edit: read mile highs post. so if your tap water is complete shit youll need to adjust

lemon juice and lemon acid didnt really work as the ph seemed to rise as the soil dries out over time. is there a lemon acid ph down product that is buffered?
User avatar
treetop
Posts: 3174
Joined: Mon 18th May 2009 12:48 am
Location: with the sun occasionally on my back

Re: Drooping leaves - thoughts?

Post by treetop »

[q
Last edited by treetop on Tue 11th Oct 2016 02:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
How much did you produce?
Slip & Sal
Posts: 1431
Joined: Fri 30th Sep 2011 09:39 am

Re: Drooping leaves - thoughts?

Post by Slip & Sal »

Simon wrote:a friend has ph of 9 in his tap water. if he doesnt adjust it the plants slowly die. in soil... any suggestions on this?

edit: read mile highs post. so if your tap water is complete shit youll need to adjust

lemon juice and lemon acid didnt really work as the ph seemed to rise as the soil dries out over time. is there a lemon acid ph down product that is buffered?
This is what tap water is like over here. Lemon juice is correct you can also adjust soil with sulphur powder if it is really whack. All plants need care. Test your soil and tap water thats the only way. Drooping or cats claw can be caused by over nuting, under nuting a certain thing, over/under watering. There is lots of reasons and specific pictures would help.
I don't take drugs, I am Drugs.
User avatar
free_phil_spector
Posts: 445
Joined: Mon 4th Jun 2012 09:50 pm

Re: Drooping leaves - thoughts?

Post by free_phil_spector »

Just a quick update - I seem to have salvaged it by adjusting the watering schedule and cutting down the nutes. Leaves returned to (semi) normal after about a week and I checked the trichs earlier - she is ready to harvest so will be chopped tomorrow. The yield is sadly gonna be fairly low as a result of its mid-term crisis (ahem) but I'm just glad to have got something out of it.

Thanks to all on the thread for your tips and advice. I had already done shitloads of research online and asked on here cos I couldn't get a definitive answer elsewhere. After this thread, I'm still none the wiser :mrgreen: I guess all this really proves is everyone has different methods. In the end I kinda just followed my instinct and monitored her properly and she came around. Fingers crossed she'll smoke as nice as she smells 8)
It's so easy to laugh, it's so easy to hate - it takes guts to be gentle and kind...
gettingrimey
Posts: 176
Joined: Tue 5th Jul 2011 10:05 am

Re: Drooping leaves - thoughts?

Post by gettingrimey »

Just a quick question for more advanced growers than myself, I use RO water in Canna soil and Canna nutes and have never once bothered with checking the PH of my soil, should I and if so why? Just wondering as I have never had any problems to date but I'm always keen to learn from the more sage growers on here.
I be chillin on the beach in the South of Venice
Or merking the President live on Channel 7
User avatar
free_phil_spector
Posts: 445
Joined: Mon 4th Jun 2012 09:50 pm

Re: Drooping leaves - thoughts?

Post by free_phil_spector »

It does the job. Dunno what I was worried about :mrgreen:
It's so easy to laugh, it's so easy to hate - it takes guts to be gentle and kind...
ZBeebs
Posts: 1001
Joined: Wed 25th Mar 2009 03:18 am
Location: Outer Space

Re: Drooping leaves - thoughts?

Post by ZBeebs »

Where I am, the tap water has a PH of around 8.5, and if I don't lower it somehow the plants do horribly. (growing in soil). I measure the ph of the water before I pour it in and I also measure the runoff. If the runoff is significantly higher or lower than my target of 6.5, I adjust the ph of the water I pour in to compensate. When I'm feeding them nutes (Floranova), the nutes alone drop the ph of the water close enough that I don't have to adjust ph further.

Had problems with my plants, the only thing I changed was the ph of the water I was pouring in, problem solved.
Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly?
User avatar
Uncle Ron
Posts: 3471
Joined: Sat 14th Mar 2009 12:03 am
Location: Lost since '73

Re: Drooping leaves - thoughts?

Post by Uncle Ron »

gettingrimey wrote:Just a quick question for more advanced growers than myself, I use RO water in Canna soil and Canna nutes and have never once bothered with checking the PH of my soil, should I and if so why? Just wondering as I have never had any problems to date but I'm always keen to learn from the more sage growers on here.
High,
As the old adage suggests - If It Ain't Broke, Don't Fix It!!! :)
I haven't (yet) used RO water (Reverse Osmosis), however from my studies and conversations with farmers/growers, there are Pros and Cons to using RO'ed water.
Most of whom I spoke with use RO because their water supply is undesirable - the PPM above 500 or heavy chlorine/chemical treatment by the water company. None of the people I spoke with mentioned pH during the topic of conversation, so this begs the question - why use RO water to lower pH? Use a filtered citric acid such as lemon juice concentrate to lower the pH. Works perfectly, and is 100% natural. In addition, there are many products designed to adjust the pH, as mentioned in previous posts.
If I were using RO water, I would ensure the nutrients and additives that I'm using included minerals that the RO process removes (ie.. calcium). Food for thought...

My suggestion to anyone who grows or is interested in growing, learn all there is to know about your water source. If using a well, have the water tested. If using a public water supply, the water company will provide one free of charge (the water supply is constantly monitored). Some public water companies publish this information on their websites, a great place to start looking.
If you are growing outdoors using mother earth, or have taken soil from the ground, have those tested as well. The cost is minimal, should be less than $25, at least it was the last time I had soil tested.
I'm all about doing the Johnny Appleseed, meaning to simply drop seeds and watch the grass grow. However, I've become somewhat of a cannasouir farmer, maximizing both quality and quantity whenever possible. This to me means testing/adjusting the water, choosing the proper growing medium and nutrients/additives, proper lighting and ventilation, and so much more.
I used an old adage to open, now I'll use one to close - Nothing Is Worth Doing If Not Done Properly.
Happy Farming...
... :mrgreen:
Post Reply