Lecithol self test

Weedus · Post by **Weedus** » Sat 28th Sep 2013 12:36 am

Some Days ago my Lecithol Bottle arrived.I dont wanted to spend 5 Gramms on it,so i choosed to use 30ml Lecithol and 3 Gramms of K2 mostly Indica Weed (but a noticeable high too).

I grinded the Weed and put it into a 0,2 Glass.Then i added 6x 5ml Syringe of Lecithol over the Weed.You could instantly see that something happens.The Clear Lecithol became green instantly and you could see a bit of brown glance swimming in the green solution (i guess its the resin?).
I used a fork to stirr it,let it set,stir it and so on for about 2 Hours,then the Weed looked leached out and i was sure there is no more "medicine" in it

I then took a Glass Funnel and cut a classical "chemistry" filter from a coffe filter (first round cut,then you bend over 1 part so it forms a "chinese hat" shape to fit into funnel)
It took some time to get it trough the Filter but in the end it worked good.It was also noticeable,that before the Weed contact the Lecithol was clear,thin and unsticky.After it took the Ingredients from the Weed it was green,more thick and oily and it became sticky.You realy can see it took all the good stuff out of the Weed

>Today i made the first test and put 25 drops of my Lecithol into a GLass with Vanilla Milk.
Then i was a bit scared and drunk only 1/3 of the Glass,after 50 Minutes i dont feeled much but i noticed it,so i drunk another 1/3 of the GLass.10 Minutes later i feeled extreme stoned,this stuff definately works.The 2/3 of 25 Drops would be in Weed not even 0,1 Gramms.And i feel so much more stoned than 0,1 Gramms now.

Like i mentioned before in this Forum i often made me a Tea with 0,3 Gramms of Weed,and the 2/3 of 25 Drops = 0,07 Gramms of Weed is at least twice as strong !

So for me its absolutely prooven that Lecithol increases the Effect compared to smoking at least 5 times ! (this would fit their claim that you get 5 to 9 times more thc into your brain than with smoking)

This Stuff is realy cool,the Bottle looks not like a Drug at all.Its just written Lecithol and a Green Leave (neutral leave no Cannabis) and then the Ingrediens listed : Alcohol 78%,Polysorbat80,Sesame Oil,Lecithin,Peppermint Oil
You could tell anyone who ask just thats some Homeopathic Medicine or something like that.
It would be perfect to bring into places wheres drugs are absolutely not allowed or when youre at Work or so

You also get sleepy from it,i guess with a pure Indica even more than with K2 ,K2 is a very balanced Strain for me.

End Result is good,you get a big increase in Effect for just a few Bucks (7,50 for 50ml Bottle,10ml is needed per Gramm of Weed)

Producer say its good to use for at least 4 Months after opening

The Taste is intresting too,its realy like concentrated Cannabis taste with a minty note and the sharp Alcoholic taste.The Alcohol can be boiled away by heating the Lecithol Solution at 78 Celsius,then the Alc. vaporates (Alc boils at 78 Water at 100 Celsius)

The stuff realy works

Edit: I forgot to Mention that i had already smoked 1 Gramm of Hija and half Gramm of K2 today but i dont felt stoned much as i took the Drops.
Since i noticed the effect a hour after taking,i realy dont want to smoke a Bong or anything else now,this stuff can sure help to reduce the Money you spent on Weed !!I think my thc receptors are complete occupied now lol

ZBeebs · Post by **ZBeebs** » Sat 28th Sep 2013 01:57 pm

This is not much of a test if you admit to smoking 1.5 grams before drinking your concoction.

I also wouldn't advise people to use your method, if you're not decarboxylating the weed before ingesting you are missing out on some, if not most of the effects. If you don't know what that is, you still have much to learn.

Soy lechithin (which I think is the ingredient you are referring to) will indeed help your body process cannabinoids, but it doesn't make them stronger.

I've done lots of experiements around edibles... using heat, no heat, alcohol soaks, with and without soy lechithin, crockpot, double boiler, etc... and the fact that you felt effects makes me think... placebo effect...

Weedus · Post by **Weedus** » Sat 28th Sep 2013 05:51 pm

I dont mean pure Lecithin,its a mix of Lecithin,Alcohol,Sesameoil,Polysorbat80 and Peppermint Oil called Lecithol,from Company with same Name.It was invented by a Dr. of Chemistry

Its definately stronger.Its not only Lecithin,its also Polysorbat 80.Together form ultra little fat balls in the Water,called Mix-Micells, which are able to get trough the first pass effect without big looses.

First Pass Effect at Wikipedia explained:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_pass

The Alcohol takes the THC,the THC mixes with Sesameoil cause its Fat-Loving and likes fat much more than Alcohol.The The THC-Oil gets emulgated by Lecithin and Polysorbat 80 forming this mix-micells which are able to get trough the Filter Mechanisms of your Body so in the End much more thc can reach your blood and brain.Just try it out a Bottle only cost 7 Euros

ZBeebs · Post by **ZBeebs** » Sat 28th Sep 2013 06:07 pm

Again, no mention of decarboxylization, which converts inactive thc-a in raw cannabis to bio available thc.

ZBeebs · Post by **ZBeebs** » Sat 28th Sep 2013 09:55 pm

Having re-read what you've posted... I am amazed at how much it doesn't make sense... It's as if someone had a small amount of information and then decided to pretend to be an expert by throwing in some words and making up the rest. I know a little bit about mixed micelles, and their use in drug delivery. I also know about the first pass effect. None of that has anything do to with the bioavailability of THC in the product you made.

USbongLord · Post by **USbongLord** » Sat 28th Sep 2013 10:39 pm

Dudes a nut...stopped reading his shit last week..sorry ya got sucked into his vortex

Weedus · Post by **Weedus** » Sun 29th Sep 2013 12:28 am

I only translated to English what is written on the Lecithol Homepage which is German Only.

Today before i smoked anything i took 15 Drops (not even 0,1 Weed) on empty stomach.
It seems that even on empty Stomach it needs some time before you feel it ,this time it was around 40 Minutes,yesterday an Hour.But you definately feel soo much more than you would smoke.

And to Yesterday,like i said i put 25 Drops into a "Shot Glass" with Vanilla Milk.I drank 1/3 of the Glass and then i waited some time,i feelt a bit,then i drunk another 1/3 and 10 minutes later the effect was strong.But that was still the Effect from first 1/3,a bit later i got so stoned that i closed my Eyes while Watching Mythbusters and then my Head fell down very slowly and i "woke up again" as my head touched the Table.And this then happened some times before i decided i better go to Bed

Quote Zbeebs
"Again, no mention of decarboxylization, which converts inactive thc-a in raw cannabis to bio available thc."

I think this is done in Step 1 "Put the Weed into the ofen at 120 Celsius for 20 Minutes to convert thc-acid into delta9 and delta11 thc"
I already mentioned it in my other Post about Lecithol which i made as i ordered a Bottle for me too,i translated the full manual there.

Quote Zbeebs
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Post subject: Re: Lecithol self test Reply with quote
Having re-read what you've posted... I am amazed at how much it doesn't make sense... It's as if someone had a small amount of information and then decided to pretend to be an expert by throwing in some words and making up the rest. I know a little bit about mixed micelles, and their use in drug delivery. I also know about the first pass effect. None of that has anything do to with the bioavailability of THC in the product you made."

Like i said i just translated whats written on the German Lecithol Homepage.
https://www.lecithol.de/inhaltsstoffe/
The Lecithol Recipe was made by Dipl. Chemist Andreas Schröder who is getting DR. soon

They say that when smoking only 10% of the thc you consumed end up in your Brain cause its filtered out before,and with Lecithol 50 to 90% of the thc you consumed get into your Brain or Blood Plasma.Thats why even little amounts make such a strong Effect.

Its realy bad that we dont sit in one Room otherwise the non Believers could drink some Mililiters

I bet 2 Hours Later they believe

But just try out yourself

You dont need to make a full bottle you can make 2,5ml with 0,25 Gramms of Weed as Test Dosage,but be warned you will get extreme stoned

redeyezman · Post by **redeyezman** » Sun 29th Sep 2013 12:35 am

Its realy bad that we dont sit in one Room otherwise the non Believers could drink some Mililiters I bet 2 Hours Later they believe

When you find someone dumb enough on ACD to consume something you made, that will be a thread you write worth reading....

Weedus · Post by **Weedus** » Sun 29th Sep 2013 12:49 am

Lol just try out yourself.When my Lecithol i made is empty,i guess in a Month or so,i make a new Bottle and record the whole Process perhaps you get a better imagination then

But this Stuff was invented by a Chemist for Medical Marijuana Patients who dont want to smoke it and who dont want to have this bad dosage of normal edibles like Space Cakes.
Why you think this could be something bad? You can dose it perfectly drop for drop,and when you know how much THC the Weed has you can calculate the thc in the Solution very easily
1ml Solution made with 10% THC Weed will have 10mg of THC
So for real Patients this Stuff could be a real help.

And the taste is soo awesome.Like i said today i used 15 Drops in a Shotglass with Strawberry Milk,and it totaly tasted like Weed,not like raw Weed in your Mouth,more like a "pure Aroma",hard to describe.But even this few Drops was dominant over all the artificial aromas in the Strawberry Milk Drink and it was like Weedmilk

For me this stuff is awesome and i will keep using it,its realy great to take in the Evening.Normaly i wake up all 2 or 3 Hours in the Night,but last time only 1x cause i had toilet need

TwoCanucks · Post by **TwoCanucks** » Sun 29th Sep 2013 01:26 am

The BEST part of pot is smoking it or bonging it....enjoy your concoction, dont poison yourself or damage your liver