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Posted: Tue 13th Feb 2007 02:00 pm
by pan4gold49
This happened here way to close for me. Have been there to eat before.

KUTV) SALT LAKE CITY A man in a trench coat pulled a 12 gauge shotgun and opened fire at Salt Lake City's Trolley Square on Monday evening, killing five people and injuring several more, police say. The gunman also died in the shooting.

Witnesses report that as many as 20 shots were fired inside the shopping center, which houses many stores and restaurants that are popular with families. ( Official statement from Trolley Square)

"Bang, bang, bang, stop... bang, bang, stop." said one witness, who described a continuous barrage of gunshots inside the mall. "They were reloading... you could smell the gun powder."

Matt Lund, whose wife manages a clothing store, said he saw a woman's body face-down at the entrance to Pottery Barn Kids. He locked himself and four others inside a storage room for about 40 minutes, isolated but still able to hear the violence.

"We heard them say, 'Police! Drop your weapon!' Then we heard shotgun fire. Then there was a barrage of gunfire," Lund, 44, said. "It was hard to believe."

"I looked down the hallway... and there is a body in the doorway," said witness Shaura Cole, who had just emerged from the ladies' restroom. "A girl ran to him... she picked him up, but [a police officer] made her leave him. He was just laying there."

Marie Smith, 23, had the day off from Bath & Body Works but stopped there during an errand and saw the gunman shoot a woman in front of the store.

"He was ahead of her, standing still. I don't think she saw that he had a gun," said Smith, who dashed to a bathroom and locked the door.

Smith said the gunman seemed emotionless.

"His expression stayed totally calm. He didn't seem upset, or like he was on a rampage," she said."

An antique-store owner, Barrett Dodds, 29, said he saw a man in a trench coat exchanging gunfire with a police officer outside a card store. The gunman was backed into a children's clothing store.

"I saw the cops go in the store. I saw the shooter go down," said Dodds, who watched from the second floor.

Barb McKeown, 60, of Washington, D.C., was in another antique shop when two frantic women ran in and reported gunshots.

"Then we heard shot after shot after shot - loud, loud, loud," said McKeown, saying she heard about 20. She and three other people hid under a staircase until it was safe to leave.

"There are several victims in the shooting... there are some fatalities," said Robin Snyder of the Salt Lake Police Department.

The gunman was among six killed, according to police, but it was not immediately clear how the assailant was wounded.

An off-duty officer from Ogden was in the mall and involved in the shooting, said Ogden police Sgt. Blaine Clifford, who declined to release the officer's name. The officer was not injured, but "I don't know anything more," Clifford said.

Authorities say the unidentified gunman walked into Trolley Square at approx. 6:50 p.m. and started shooting victims at random. Witnesses say The gunman appeared to be in his early 20s, wearing a dark trench coat and carried a backpack.

A man named Jeff says he got a call from his wife, who was inside Trolley Square at the time of the shooting."

"I just told her to be quiet... they were in the back of the Sharper Image," he told 2News.

At least four people were hospitalized. Two men in critical condition - one 50 and another 16 - were at University Hospital, spokesman Chris Nelson said. Another two people - one in critical and one in serious - were at LDS Hospital, said spokesman Jess Gomez. No other details were available.

The University of Utah Hospital and LDS Hospital are currently on lockdown, meaning spectators are encouraged to stay away from those facilities, as you will not be able get in without a legitimate reason.

The entire parking lot at Trolley Square is now considered a crime scene. People with cars in the lot will not be able to remove them for the immediate future.

The entire city block surrounding Trolley Square has been blocked off to traffic and authorities are asking everyone to stay away from the area.

Posted: Tue 13th Feb 2007 07:24 pm
by Redeye
:shock: wayout

Posted: Wed 14th Feb 2007 03:25 am
by cattales1960
I did see that on the national news about that place. Such a shame. Like I said earlier in this thread, guns are job security for me, not that I enjoy people shooting each other up but as long as guns are legal, they will need trauma specialist. DOnt get me wrong, IM not for making guns illegal, just know that in the wrong hands things like trolley mall and columbine school ,ect will continue to happen.

Posted: Wed 21st Feb 2007 05:33 am
by pan4gold49
Twitch here is our display swords
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The top one is mine and the lower ones are PansTX420's

Pan4
The Wildest semi old mountain man and true stonner.

Posted: Fri 23rd Feb 2007 03:10 pm
by pansTX420
one of the guns that he had was illegal so how would making them illegal help?

Posted: Sun 25th Feb 2007 05:32 am
by drummerboy323
NICE Pieces! :wink:

I would like one of these:
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Can only be semi-auto in California.

Posted: Sun 25th Feb 2007 05:44 am
by DrGonzo
drummerboy323 wrote:NICE Pieces! :wink:

I would like one of these:
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Can only be semi-auto in California.
What for? :shock:

Posted: Sun 25th Feb 2007 06:47 am
by drummerboy323
This is L.A
http://www.lapdonline.org/get_informed/ ... view/23468
Note the Weapons section.
After a Big Quake the Police will be of little help and these guys will rule the streets.
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Posted: Sun 25th Feb 2007 07:47 am
by pan4gold49
No kidding man as an multi gun house. You know you can buy a after market kit to make it fully auto. I miss my uzi and tech 9ImageImage

check these out

Posted: Sun 25th Feb 2007 07:58 am
by pansTX420

Posted: Mon 26th Feb 2007 03:39 am
by drummerboy323
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as14-e.htm :shock:
I like the g36c 8)

Colt M16 Carbine .223
M249 Minimi .223
AK47 Assault Rifle .223
H&K MP5 SMG 9mm All available for fun in Las Vegas
Colt M16 SMG 9mm http://www.thegunstorelasvegas.com/rental.htm
UZI SMG 9mm
Thompson M1A1 SMG .45
STEN MKII SMG 9mm
Madsen M50 SMG 9mm
MP40 "Schmeisser" SMG 9mm
Stemple "K" SMG 9mm
M3A1 "Grease Gun" SMG .45

Posted: Sun 4th Mar 2007 07:09 am
by pan4gold49
The culture here for guns is funny. We ended up showing our guns to my wife to be grand parents. Who live in AZ US they were most surprised about the custom load we use. Yes its hollow point the bullet is remminton a silvertip hollow point. In the load I add a extra 12 grains of powder. Its funny just how differant guns are looked here in the west.

PS I saw a 454 magnum. Can you feel the recoil these shells are as long as your little finger. Yes have custom his and hers guns both are Police specials 9mm hers is single action mine is double action.

Posted: Sun 4th Mar 2007 10:41 am
by milehigh
The culture for bongs is pretty funny here in the Netherlands. Most Dutch people do not use bongs. But I find them a great choice for my personal weapon. I love taking Dutch people out with my bong. Some times I use my gravitron because it delivers an extra powerful shot. I load it with about 10 extra grains of isolator and it will knock the biggest bear to the floor no problem. My other weapon of choice is my mind. I use it to engage people in conversation and try to teach them my tolerant ways. Some listen, some don't. Some get it, some never will. But I do promise to continue to use my personal weapons to defeat evil and ignorance where ever it rears its ugly head. So I am very glad to have personal weapons of choice here in Holland.

mh

Posted: Sun 4th Mar 2007 01:47 pm
by DHBlues
I personally don't favor outlawing all firearms in the USA, just handguns. That being said, as long as they are legal, they should be legal to carry.
Violent crimes committed with a handgun should carry, at a minimum, a mandatory life sentence.
I'd write more, but I'm at work right now and it's time to head down to my intensive care unit to care for this morning's crop shooting victims- Sunday morning after a full moon and all.

Posted: Sun 4th Mar 2007 01:48 pm
by cattales1960
hehehe goodone mile high