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Double Life wrote:

CopenhagenCouple wrote:LOL! Just noticed that it is Gilbert Yvel stealing that candy from the kid, nice touch by the farm boys... wonder just a bit about the intended message though, other than Boer calling them selves kids with some tasty chocolate candy and the rest of us some uber bad and less than sympathetic mofos

Looks like a green paper chain to me but then the picture is hard for me to see.

So this is the mob which takes your money?

id smile too if i'd make 20bugs an hour selling weed lol

I doubt they get anywhere near that. Johnny recently advertised for staff at €8 an hour.

We are going to visit this place on tuesday so we will report back our findings in the block hashes available! Last experience was pleasing to say the least!

Hi guy’s

Some very interesting reading over the past few days, we must say. Some cynical, some thoughtful and some that just doesn’t make any sense what so ever, but the most important thing is that people have an opinion and that opinion can be expressed on a forum such as this.

To address a few things for you guys

Just for information - Four people were chosen for the testing of our blocks, we tried to pick people who we thought would give a fair and objective opinion through there knowledge of products and that also have a serious and comprehensive outlook on the cannabis industry at present. Some people may not believe us for what ever reason but we genuinely want a varied and truthful response from the customer. It’s called customer feedback and believe it or not most companies in the world look for it. It’s a real pity some turned down the opportunity as genuine objective / constructive feedback to us as a company is more than welcome and we are sure other people on this forum would have valued that opinion too.

To say that coffeeshops are the same as street dealers, is quite irresponsible and unrealistic. Coffeeshops are run under some of the most rigid laws and rules of any business in the country. The whole idea of a coffeeshop and the gedoogbeleid is to tackle the risk of street dealing. A street dealer is much more likely to have other drugs available for purchase and no care on who he sells those drugs to, under age or not. Figures show that the idea of a coffeeshop works in stopping young children and others being open to an environment for other types of drugs. The Netherlands has some of the lowest figures in Europe regarding drug abuse in comparison to when there were no coffeeshops and there was an epidemic.

There are so many who seem to be so cynical on all things coffeeshop and how they are run, from products to ethics. It is of course ok to be cynical but much more intelligent to be constructive in an argument. We would love to here constructive feedback, that way we can improve inline with what the customer really wants

To answer the question on legalization, we would love it. As you probably have seen over the last couple of days the D66 political party have gained a majority in the second room for the regulation of the “back door” obviously this now has to go to the main cabinet and will take time but it is a giant step in the right direction. We genuinely hope that the whole process is done in a correct manner of course. End to end supply chain governance for us with every product would be a wonderful thing, complete transparency of where and how a product was grown, dried, cured, tested, delivered and stored would give us and you the customers far superior products. Did you know it is in fact illegal for a coffeeshops to test their own products on site right now?

Just for your information we were one of the main sponsors of the Amsterdam cannabis liberation day this year in our support of legalization – see video here under.

You will also find a film below that helps people understand the White Choco flyer and the meaning behind it and for information it’s a paper genetics chain they are holding.

At the end of the day we are here because we love this product just the same as you guys, surely it would be much better to all work together for the greater good of everyone?

Thanks to the guys who add some common sense to the forum, constructive, objective, realistic and understanding. We would all get much further if everyone had such a mentality.

Cannabis Liberation Day (Pro Legalization)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3kVhqqvkfU

Supporting: Ieder1 project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1DDZQufwOI

White Choco Block
https://youtu.be/S9WD9oMQIp0

mmm shame

Drug abuse is lower because of coffeeshopsi ?Weed ,hash not really Smart for you to call it a drug .It,s like a cafe owner telling you drinking is harmful and then asking if you won't another drink. Your block hash is not that good really ,bought three kinds last April .The Trans -Hymalayian was way better then anything I bought off you . Your living in the past ,your strains are old school North America is leaving you guys behind in concentres and new weed strains. Why anyone would invest in the Netherlands pot business ,beats me .Must assume they use to much drugs.

lol they even made a video now

I think it's a shame that some of you guys are giving them such a hard time.
It's surely a good thing that coffee shops contribute here as much as possible.
I'm not giving an opinion on the quality of their products, or even on what they have posted, but if other coffee shop owners and staff see the hard time that these guys have been getting, it will surely make them think twice whether to post here or not.

Old Timer wrote:I think it's a shame that some of you guys are giving them such a hard time.
It's surely a good thing that coffee shops contribute here as much as possible.
I'm not giving an opinion on the quality of their products, or even on what they have posted, but if other coffee shop owners and staff see the hard time that these guys have been getting, it will surely make them think twice whether to post here or not.

Some may see this as them using this thread as an ad. Like every time you click on it .

macky wrote:Some may see this as them using this thread as an ad. Like every time you click on it .

Well it's no secret to anyone that businesses want to sell as much as they can.
Businesses that sell good products on a regular basis get rave reviews here (Utopia, Voyagers are among the most popular here), businesses that sell crap get slaughtered here regularly (see what happens anytime anyone mentions the Bulldog), and that's the way it should be.
So even it is a form of advertising or marketing, it will soon blow up in their face if their products don't meet the mark and the reviews are bad.
So, I still think it's a good thing that shops contribute to this forum.

@old timer nothing against shops posting or anyone open forum right .It,s when they make statements like CS lower drug abuse. Fuck man I don,t even live there and I know it,s that they have the lowest use among youth in the free world . Like any open forum you must take there word for fact with a grain of salt ....nothing persanal old timer

Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion but ...

Blatant spam, where someone comes on, plasters ads for coffee machines all over the forum and then disappears again, is clearly annoying. Representatives of relevant companies who discuss their businesses or products and answer member's questions seem to me to be making a positive contribution.

I've welcomed the likes of Highlyblessed, Ingi Blingi, nel z bub and DC, amongst others, and would love to see more. It's great to have the inside track from these people who can comment from within the coffeeshop industry.

It's true that by posting on here they are advertising but, so long as it's not too brazen, I guess we can live with that. We allow FBN to include adverts with all of his posts after all and that's great because he's part of the family.

In this case it was a company replying to comments about their products in a very constructive way. Of course they are promoting their business but they are also taking part in the debate with an insider's point of view. Surely that's a good thing isn't it?

On a couple of specific points, it's probably true that America is leaving the Netherlands behind in development. Skunk originated in the US a long time ago after all. On the other hand, I do remember reading many years ago that the Netherlands consumes less cannabis than other European countries despite the ease of availability. I think that the 'forbidden fruit' aspect makes it more attractive in countries with prohibition. At one time I believe that France also had the biggest heroin problem in Europe despite having the most repressive laws. I don't know whether that's still true or whether the sources I got it from were accurate but availability doesn't necessarily lead to more consumption.

The coffeeshop system is far from perfect, especially the backdoor issue, but it has been pioneering and, most importantly, is the sole reason for the ACD to exist!

While I'm here ranting, can I also mention something else?

A long time ago there was an inclination amongst the regular posters to create a bit of a clique. They jumped on every new member they felt even the slightest suspicion might be a spammer or troll. They even suggested closing the forum to new members so they could keep it to themselves.

I was very resistant to these ideas because I felt that a constant supply of new blood is essential to keep the forum alive. I've watched other forums fade away because they were too closed. Moreover most, if not all, of the active members from those times are no longer posting here so, if they'd had their way, we wouldn't be here anymore.

Just recently I've felt that a similar suspicion of new members has developed amongst the current generation. I'm probably a bit over sensitive about this but, nevertheless, can I please ask that everyone gives new members the benefit of the doubt. Let's try to lead by example and guide people into our ways rather than shouting at them.

I hear you Lem ,but smoking is not drug abuse Seen video of Donker,s speaking on the high price of weed in CS .He says the high price makes young people buy pills because there way cheaper high .I understand who HB is and Ingi and respect there view .Who ,s this guy an employee ,owner ,floor washer ? Okay done rant ,still don,t get the hype the hash is mediocre at best

macky wrote:I hear you Lem ,but smoking is not drug abuse

Well, technically(according to dictionary definitions only ) it kinda is drug abuse... But i agree in sentiment, that it's on par with a killer caffeine addiction(also guilty)!

I see both sides of this discussion really.... On one hand, it's great when a coffeeshop opens up and allows us some kind of dialogue so we can get news of all things coffeeshop related, and also ask questions directly... On the other hand, we'd appreciate a little more clarity when answering certain questions, rather than swerving the topics and answering completely different questions that nobody asked... I get that some topics must be avoided since a business doesn't want to give away all it's secrets, but it seems like every legitimate question asked is also treated like it would compromise all business activity if it were answered honestly... Kinda defeats the whole purpose of interacting really, doesn't it?

I wonder how many other people are thinking that they have a fair amount to say on the topic, but then decide 'fuck it, it's a stoner forum, nobody's listening, and I'm pretty mashed myself'. May return to this thread later.

Meanwhile, to paraphrase something said of a different subject with reference to Bill Clinton, if cannabis isn't a drug, I've been wasting a fair amount of money. Tobacco, alcohol, caffeine and for that matter capsicum are drugs, and one can debate the proper use of any particular substance. Does an amount of chilli pepper that some might consider excessive constitute abuse or appreciation?