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Re: LSD??
Pmsl.. Cisco just noticed the alteration to your signature.. Classic! 
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Re: LSD??
@hiver That was the biggest load of drivel I have read about LSD in a long time. You are damn near scaremongering with that load of shit. So you are the all experienced tripper coming to share his profound wisdom of the "rules" of hallucinogen consumption. Oh wise one.
That pile of shit would more likely scare someone off or completely skew their expectations.
The fundamental rule of tripping... Set and Setting That being mind set and the setting you choose to trip in. LSD greatly enhances moods or feelings so that is why Set is so important. And that carries forward to setting. Your best bet is a familiar environment. Either with good friends or not. People trip by themselves frequently. So your big NEVER is completely unfounded.
As with any drug a person is looking to consume research should be undertaken. To know the effects read trip reports etc and educate yourself. Learn to discard the rubbish borderline propaganda that people say (hiver looking at you). LSD is an amazing drug and can really do wonderful things. Always remember it is a drug and it will wear off. Also hiver benzos are well known to reduce the effects of LSD as are anti psychotics. So you are the ill informed here. I am all for harm reduction but your post was full of shit with one or two things that were reasonable. And now you start attacking people who have experience in this sort of thing telling them they know nothing and you are the all knowledgeable tripper.
Head over to bluelight and post that same stuff. See what sort of reaction you get. Loads more trippers there to tear you a new one. You started off with the right intentions and then made a complete arse hair out of yourself to the point your credibility is non existent.
To first timers.. do some research, don't be afraid and enjoy.
That pile of shit would more likely scare someone off or completely skew their expectations.
The fundamental rule of tripping... Set and Setting That being mind set and the setting you choose to trip in. LSD greatly enhances moods or feelings so that is why Set is so important. And that carries forward to setting. Your best bet is a familiar environment. Either with good friends or not. People trip by themselves frequently. So your big NEVER is completely unfounded.
As with any drug a person is looking to consume research should be undertaken. To know the effects read trip reports etc and educate yourself. Learn to discard the rubbish borderline propaganda that people say (hiver looking at you). LSD is an amazing drug and can really do wonderful things. Always remember it is a drug and it will wear off. Also hiver benzos are well known to reduce the effects of LSD as are anti psychotics. So you are the ill informed here. I am all for harm reduction but your post was full of shit with one or two things that were reasonable. And now you start attacking people who have experience in this sort of thing telling them they know nothing and you are the all knowledgeable tripper.
Head over to bluelight and post that same stuff. See what sort of reaction you get. Loads more trippers there to tear you a new one. You started off with the right intentions and then made a complete arse hair out of yourself to the point your credibility is non existent.
To first timers.. do some research, don't be afraid and enjoy.
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AGAIN - i was talking about first timers trying it for the first time.
I know some people trip alone. I dont see a point but i wouldnt ever recommend that to anyone on their first time.
Cisco youre still huffy, i said that jokingly, but honestly, going into totally stupid territory is much more accurate, apparently. (im boring you but you thank me for entertainment?)
Madcore youre not much better, instead of reading Cisco and mr "street cred" drivel, you could have spent a few minutes reading what i actually wrote.
Ive seen a lot of people trying to come down with pretty much everything, from benzoes, to different other anti-psychotic drugs, to heroin, other downers and whatnot and guess what happens? You take that shit and then you have to wait for several hours for the acid to let go anyway.
The point i made was, again, that its not a drug for everyone and many people will not have a good time on it.
You can scream and post idiotic insults all you want but thats simply the truth.
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Anyway, since we are getting along so fine here :
Secondly the bolded part speaks for itself.
DID I NOT recomend having a few joints that can come useful for getting things back on track to laughs?
DID I NOT stress the importance of having good friends sharing the experience - for having fun?
OR to drag each other out of any "bad movies" - if they happen?
btw i was recommending vitamins, juice and the likes for the morning and the next day.
This is a very short and very, very edited story of my first time, all this reminiscing brought back memories.
No, its not for you three dolts. I just felt like writing yesterday.
it was atually the end of eighties, just dont ask me to remember the year, not sixties.
First blotters came to town suddenly, nobody had any anytime before.
It is blotters am i right? thats what you call little paper ones?
Cos we dont have any name even similar to it (not english speaking of course)
Anyway, first one was a dud, guess somebody licked it off
remember waiting anxiously and seeing city and visiting amusement park lights get a bit brighter for a few minutes then fading and that was it...
wait, i think it was a actually a dutch amusement park....
wait a minute... maybe it had something to do with sudden appearance of acid .. hmmm
Then we got another one, next week.
Omega... wont forget it so easy,
After that we had Ohms, Aspirinixes, Spirals, weaker Bart Simpsons and smileys, dr hofmans, whatever.
Ohms were fucking though but that was later, pure exaltation and best laughs i ever had.
First time, after exactly 25 minutes i lit up one spliff and in the middle of the third round it hit us somehow from behind
I still clearly remember that moment, saying to each other, " Here it comes, here it comeeees!"
all at the same moment, all four of us feeling the same wave rushing in
a friend getting up and laughing and screaming how he lost his dick, that it must have fallen thorough his pocket and running around us looking for it in the grass, all of us tumbling down over each other from laughter.
All the cities groups and guys would be completely whacked out every weekend. You would run into different groups walking, running and laughing their asses off all the time. Then we would compare what things we all saw and laughed at each other until something would happen and everybody went around again.
You can also run as much as you want and it feels incredible.
Your all walking, walking, gliding, feels great, faster, faster, you can feel every muscle and bone inside you working perfectly, faster... haha!... then someone starts running, then another, then everyone - and the whole bunch is off down the street screaming , laughing, running.
Then oyu get to laugh at yourself when you stop, then laugh because youre laughing at yourself...at eachother.
City, normals, cars, lights, people, crowds, bars.
Then we decided to go into a disco.
First, we couldnt get through the doorway and up the stairs because there was a big ultraviolet neon inside and it was creating a field of violet light that would push us back everytime we tried to go through it.
We even tried taking a run towards it and just busting through that way but it would still bounce us back.
guess people were walking by all the time... cant say because i remember laughing so hard i had to wipe my tears of.
And there was also a show of trying to count the money for all of us, for tickets.
Whoever tried, the other three would attack him with an avalanche of jokes and crazy stuff shouting : 55, 42, 60, 29, hundred and a bucket, 54, thee chickens and 15, ahaha!!!
So after an hour or more we managed to somehow push-pull each other inside.
Into a frenzy of chaotic light show and crowd so dense that you literally couldnt walk but had to push and squeeze through people, which of course were all staring right at us, commenting behind our backs and laughing at us. We saw them do that every time we would look in the mirrors!
We immediately went to look at the mirrors, of course, because everyone told us not to, but inside, with stroboscope and three hundred other badly and randomly positioned lights.
With normals squeezing you all the time, pushing, bumping, falling. Horrible music on constant repeat by a same old dj who just wouldnt die screaming and blaring.
And then we got separated and... well lets just say that when we watched Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas much later on, we had a good laugh when they're trying to check in the hotel scene.
btw, for those that dont know these things : the lizards were a metaphor for what youre seeing, not an example of actual visual hallucination.
Then i found the other two guys, alone, freaked out and squeezed between the people on the balcony.
Each hugged me like they found a lifeline, with "oh god your here! youre here! dont leave! what is this!??! everyone knows... everyone is looking at us!"
Tried to calm them down, didnt work, the other of the two already started seeing menacing shadows (it was a night with full silvery moon, a bit cold) before we even came down to the city.
So they ran off (went to some hill where they convinced themselves they can behave normally and then went home) and naturally me and my only remaining trustee compagno decided we have to stay and ...survive everything!
-too many things to explain-
The two of us are sitting on a couch with a fight between a bouncer and some spirited contender going on one meter infront if us and every ten fifteen minutes the gargantuan rush decides to let us surface back from being locked into a psychic storm rushing through the people, floor, earth, universe, for a moment - and we look at each other, say :
"man, thats you... whoa,... this is me... didya see that how it went..? it just took us and whoosh!"
"Yeah man, whoa...and then it went down, through everything! do you have your body back?
"yeah, i have hands man... and legs"
"yeah, i can feel my internal organs working"
"me too!"
"What do you think how long we will be aware, back here, now?"
"look at that guy man!"
"its going through him!"
"he is not seeing it! he is not seeing it!"
"Ahhaha haha!"
... WWWOOOOOOOOSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH!
We stayed untill it closed.
Went out new men.
let us down in the morning next day. took few hours slowly, slowly letting go...
that was a half.
Now, frankly, after that one, Things got only better and better.
Because we passed the test with literally flying colours, with the next ones "Ohms" it was just great start to end.
We had powers. The force was with us and it was strong indeed.
just one short example, fourth or fifth time i came back home early, i think it was raining, nobody outside, my pal also went home,
- so i went to bed, thinking ill just relax, maybe fall asleep.
after five minutes lying in the bed a Warner bross logo, the one of their cartoons appears, all with the music, just like someone turned on a tv infront of me,
and the whole cartoon spins out, in real time and all, with all the sounds, voices, dialogue, scene by scene,
-and im thinking "great stuff ... im watching a cartoon for free, this is cool, i can just enjoy, hey this one is good... i wonder if i close my eyes will it break it... nope... seeing it even with eyes shut... or open.... hey this is really going...."
- watched the whole cartoon and the credits rolled on and everything, just like the full real cartoon -
- then another one started-
Ive spent next few hours watching all the bugs bunny cartoons i ever watched in my life in a big constant stream, without any hiccups or breaks.
Just like someone just played the whole portfolio, everyone in, the Road Runner and Willie the coyote whole series, the ones with Daffy duck too, everything.
Tomorrow my family asked me why i was laughing all night.
They said i was kind of chuckling all the time then laughing a lot then chuckling again and doing that all night.
But that the weird thing was that it sounded really happy.
http://www.myfreewallpapers.net/cartoon ... ever.shtml
I know some people trip alone. I dont see a point but i wouldnt ever recommend that to anyone on their first time.
Cisco youre still huffy, i said that jokingly, but honestly, going into totally stupid territory is much more accurate, apparently. (im boring you but you thank me for entertainment?)
Madcore youre not much better, instead of reading Cisco and mr "street cred" drivel, you could have spent a few minutes reading what i actually wrote.
Ive seen a lot of people trying to come down with pretty much everything, from benzoes, to different other anti-psychotic drugs, to heroin, other downers and whatnot and guess what happens? You take that shit and then you have to wait for several hours for the acid to let go anyway.
The point i made was, again, that its not a drug for everyone and many people will not have a good time on it.
You can scream and post idiotic insults all you want but thats simply the truth.
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Anyway, since we are getting along so fine here :
?Cisco wrote:Ha ha calm down to a panic dude ,
Still waiting for that "dissection".Cisco wrote:believe me I can back it up and I will I just can't be arsed dissecting your post at the moment .
From this segment here we can see that you refer to yourself by "my" not "we" which leads us to conclusion that "you" are not "everyone else".Cisco wrote:My first drug experiences were with halucnigins (sp) and took them every weekend for years and did have some bad experiences
Secondly the bolded part speaks for itself.
Who said anything about not being able to bring yourself back from the bad trip?Smokey McPot wrote: However it is possible to bring yourself out of a bad trip both by reassuring yourself "it's only the shrooms/trips and also by having lots of vitamin C, i.e fresh orange juice or the likes
Also a smoke of some good old fashioned soap bar or the likes always helps to chill me out
Just my 2p worth
DID I NOT recomend having a few joints that can come useful for getting things back on track to laughs?
DID I NOT stress the importance of having good friends sharing the experience - for having fun?
OR to drag each other out of any "bad movies" - if they happen?
btw i was recommending vitamins, juice and the likes for the morning and the next day.
Cisco wrote: This exactly , I had a very bad experience on magic mushrooms but as our mantra was "it's only the mushrooms" I came out it unscathed and ended up having them again a couple nights later (also a couple Valium or temazepan do the trick too
Cisco wrote: However I was not around in the 60s etc where I imagine the LSD would maybe have been stronger than blotters but then again I've had some intense trips on those bad boys
Talk to smokey about that.Cisco wrote:As I say some of the stuff you wrote was sensible but the bullshit about not being able to come down you can as Smokey wrote
Great. How much of those and how long it takes to "bring you down"? Does that mean completely sober?Cisco wrote: you can get yourself out of trouble by thinking positive and taking vitamin C etc and then I added that Valium and temazepan also work to bring you down
is this some sort of a sarcastic joke?Cisco wrote:If you can't debate without throwing out insults then I'm not wasting my time as people who are not open minded enough to listen to different points of view do not interest me
Hey, lucky your rational mind kicked in when you tried to "step out of window from a fourth floor" eh? Boy you do lead by example.I had numerous bad trips fuck I even thought I could step out a window from a fourth floor window cause my perspective was fucked , but my rational mind kicked in ,
-wink-I have also had liquid acid damn I've evev had some ketamine that turned me inside out and upside down
-wink-Cisco wrote:So tell me what is this amazingly strong version of LSD that your mind could not handle ?
Is this that debate thing im feeling here?Kermit wrote: Or maybe you got other motivation, keep yer drink covered that trip could come again
what aggressive replies? thats just how i talk everydaySmokey McPot wrote:I don't think it's us that are being egotistical,Seems to me that you are the one who has a fragile ego with all these aggresive replies..
Yeah, yer doin great!we are only trying to say that some of your comments were wrong..
Splendid even.Thanks Ever so much for your opinions, now go sit down with a nice cup of tea and a doobie and chill out man
Cisco wrote: What the fuck are you talking about dude ? Huffy , ego upset ? I'm just trying to have a debate about some of the nonsense you posted ,
as i said all along, you can go back a page and quote me, i had a great time myself.I think whatever it is you took has fucked you up ?
Well one cant really well miss an opportunity to advise. CertainlyBut whatever dude you just carry on advising people wrongly and you'll fuck up more people than the drug enjoy that ya mixed up man
This is a very short and very, very edited story of my first time, all this reminiscing brought back memories.
No, its not for you three dolts. I just felt like writing yesterday.
it was atually the end of eighties, just dont ask me to remember the year, not sixties.
First blotters came to town suddenly, nobody had any anytime before.
It is blotters am i right? thats what you call little paper ones?
Cos we dont have any name even similar to it (not english speaking of course)
Anyway, first one was a dud, guess somebody licked it off
remember waiting anxiously and seeing city and visiting amusement park lights get a bit brighter for a few minutes then fading and that was it...
wait, i think it was a actually a dutch amusement park....
wait a minute... maybe it had something to do with sudden appearance of acid .. hmmm
Then we got another one, next week.
Omega... wont forget it so easy,
After that we had Ohms, Aspirinixes, Spirals, weaker Bart Simpsons and smileys, dr hofmans, whatever.
Ohms were fucking though but that was later, pure exaltation and best laughs i ever had.
First time, after exactly 25 minutes i lit up one spliff and in the middle of the third round it hit us somehow from behind
I still clearly remember that moment, saying to each other, " Here it comes, here it comeeees!"
all at the same moment, all four of us feeling the same wave rushing in
a friend getting up and laughing and screaming how he lost his dick, that it must have fallen thorough his pocket and running around us looking for it in the grass, all of us tumbling down over each other from laughter.
All the cities groups and guys would be completely whacked out every weekend. You would run into different groups walking, running and laughing their asses off all the time. Then we would compare what things we all saw and laughed at each other until something would happen and everybody went around again.
You can also run as much as you want and it feels incredible.
Your all walking, walking, gliding, feels great, faster, faster, you can feel every muscle and bone inside you working perfectly, faster... haha!... then someone starts running, then another, then everyone - and the whole bunch is off down the street screaming , laughing, running.
Then oyu get to laugh at yourself when you stop, then laugh because youre laughing at yourself...at eachother.
City, normals, cars, lights, people, crowds, bars.
Then we decided to go into a disco.
First, we couldnt get through the doorway and up the stairs because there was a big ultraviolet neon inside and it was creating a field of violet light that would push us back everytime we tried to go through it.
We even tried taking a run towards it and just busting through that way but it would still bounce us back.
guess people were walking by all the time... cant say because i remember laughing so hard i had to wipe my tears of.And there was also a show of trying to count the money for all of us, for tickets.
Whoever tried, the other three would attack him with an avalanche of jokes and crazy stuff shouting : 55, 42, 60, 29, hundred and a bucket, 54, thee chickens and 15, ahaha!!!
So after an hour or more we managed to somehow push-pull each other inside.
Into a frenzy of chaotic light show and crowd so dense that you literally couldnt walk but had to push and squeeze through people, which of course were all staring right at us, commenting behind our backs and laughing at us. We saw them do that every time we would look in the mirrors!
We immediately went to look at the mirrors, of course, because everyone told us not to, but inside, with stroboscope and three hundred other badly and randomly positioned lights.
With normals squeezing you all the time, pushing, bumping, falling. Horrible music on constant repeat by a same old dj who just wouldnt die screaming and blaring.
And then we got separated and... well lets just say that when we watched Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas much later on, we had a good laugh when they're trying to check in the hotel scene.
btw, for those that dont know these things : the lizards were a metaphor for what youre seeing, not an example of actual visual hallucination.
Then i found the other two guys, alone, freaked out and squeezed between the people on the balcony.
Each hugged me like they found a lifeline, with "oh god your here! youre here! dont leave! what is this!??! everyone knows... everyone is looking at us!"
Tried to calm them down, didnt work, the other of the two already started seeing menacing shadows (it was a night with full silvery moon, a bit cold) before we even came down to the city.
So they ran off (went to some hill where they convinced themselves they can behave normally and then went home) and naturally me and my only remaining trustee compagno decided we have to stay and ...survive everything!
-too many things to explain-
The two of us are sitting on a couch with a fight between a bouncer and some spirited contender going on one meter infront if us and every ten fifteen minutes the gargantuan rush decides to let us surface back from being locked into a psychic storm rushing through the people, floor, earth, universe, for a moment - and we look at each other, say :
"man, thats you... whoa,... this is me... didya see that how it went..? it just took us and whoosh!"
"Yeah man, whoa...and then it went down, through everything! do you have your body back?
"yeah, i have hands man... and legs"
"yeah, i can feel my internal organs working"
"me too!"
"What do you think how long we will be aware, back here, now?"
"look at that guy man!"
"its going through him!"
"he is not seeing it! he is not seeing it!"
"Ahhaha haha!"
... WWWOOOOOOOOSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH!
We stayed untill it closed.
Went out new men.
let us down in the morning next day. took few hours slowly, slowly letting go...
that was a half.
Now, frankly, after that one, Things got only better and better.
Because we passed the test with literally flying colours, with the next ones "Ohms" it was just great start to end.
We had powers. The force was with us and it was strong indeed.
just one short example, fourth or fifth time i came back home early, i think it was raining, nobody outside, my pal also went home,
- so i went to bed, thinking ill just relax, maybe fall asleep.
after five minutes lying in the bed a Warner bross logo, the one of their cartoons appears, all with the music, just like someone turned on a tv infront of me,
and the whole cartoon spins out, in real time and all, with all the sounds, voices, dialogue, scene by scene,
-and im thinking "great stuff ... im watching a cartoon for free, this is cool, i can just enjoy, hey this one is good... i wonder if i close my eyes will it break it... nope... seeing it even with eyes shut... or open.... hey this is really going...."
- watched the whole cartoon and the credits rolled on and everything, just like the full real cartoon -
- then another one started-
Ive spent next few hours watching all the bugs bunny cartoons i ever watched in my life in a big constant stream, without any hiccups or breaks.
Just like someone just played the whole portfolio, everyone in, the Road Runner and Willie the coyote whole series, the ones with Daffy duck too, everything.
Tomorrow my family asked me why i was laughing all night.
They said i was kind of chuckling all the time then laughing a lot then chuckling again and doing that all night.
But that the weird thing was that it sounded really happy.
http://www.myfreewallpapers.net/cartoon ... ever.shtml
Last edited by hiver on Mon 31st Oct 2011 03:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: LSD??
Your english is excellent, maybe to good for a Yugoslavian, and you will find us wall to wall dolts in Basjoes during your stay please come, smoke and be happy oh and dont trip on the strip at the door.hiver wrote: No, its not for you three dolts. I just felt like writing yesterday.
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Im not a motherfucking yugoslavian.
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Its complicated, that word turned from an idealistic idea into an insult in some parts long ago with very concrete reasons for it.
Since i did live in yugoslavia all my chidhood and teenage years i have every right to call it.
also, built in spell checker comes really handy.
Other than that, im really looking forward toke&talke at basjoes and i hope we can smoke a pipe of peace and will not end up screaming at one another :
"Thats a fallacy! strawman! oh yeah? wheres the quote?"
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Its complicated, that word turned from an idealistic idea into an insult in some parts long ago with very concrete reasons for it.
Since i did live in yugoslavia all my chidhood and teenage years i have every right to call it.
also, built in spell checker comes really handy.
Other than that, im really looking forward toke&talke at basjoes and i hope we can smoke a pipe of peace and will not end up screaming at one another :
"Thats a fallacy! strawman! oh yeah? wheres the quote?"
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The only one screaming is you, i am laughing so much i just fell over, start screaming in a CS and you are very likely to get fucked in a canal by Managment/Security/locals. So calm yer shit!!hiver wrote:Im not a motherfucking yugoslavian.
also, built in spell checker comes really handy.
Other than that, im really looking forward toke&talke at basjoes and i hope we can smoke a pipe of peace and will not end up screaming at one another :
"Thats a fallacy! strawman! oh yeah? wheres the quote?"
Like i said join in the toking fun, you have to meet the people behind the words to maybe understand the words, maybe then unless there is a real language barrier you will understand and stop going OCEAN VISION ON us.
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hiver wrote:that was a joke....
unbelievable...
What was a joke? all your posts? you sure your not southern english?
And dont get upset about yer roots i am British but like to think i am English so its okay, dont let it bother you.
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Yawn
Tbh I have better things to do than dissect yer drivel , nice quoting by the way enjoy the World Cup as has been mentioned we will be in Basjoe every night if you wanna continue the debate then I will take you to the fucking cleaners
Thank you come again
Cat again was there any real point in posting that comment ? No ones getting abused here ?
Tbh I have better things to do than dissect yer drivel , nice quoting by the way
enjoy the World Cup as has been mentioned we will be in Basjoe every night if you wanna continue the debate then I will take you to the fucking cleaners Thank you come again
Cat again was there any real point in posting that comment ? No ones getting abused here ?
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cattales1960
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Re: LSD??
Hiver, hang in there. Some of us have to suffer thru certain peoples abuse on here. dont let it get to you. There is the foe button also that will help you not have to look at them anymore.
I need a miracle everyday
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Whats yer problem, didnt bite on the model thread so thought you would roll over to here and have a go????cattales1960 wrote:Hiver, hang in there. Some of us have to suffer thru certain peoples abuse on here. dont let it get to you. There is the foe button also that will help you not have to look at them anymore.
SO.....
Taking it you refering to me, wish i could hide you behind that foe button, not much chance of that now trot off to your little matchstick man (AT YOUR AGE
), you freak!!!ON TOPIC...
Hiver your not getting abuse your getting replys in real peoples tone not all the fake ones on here who talk nice to yer face then shit on ya behind it, wont take long to work them out.
Trust me you will like anyone in this thread who will be in town during your stay, hope you make it for a few laughs, plenty of stories and good smoke. Just dont talk acid
Now i will leave this thread to the cut/copy/paste coz they know fuck all brigade, enjoy.
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cattales1960
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How is it that a foe can read my post? hum interesting. and what is the purpose of the foe button?
I need a miracle everyday