April 26, 2008
THE HAGUE (AFP) — The Dutch government has decided to ban "magic mushrooms" and announced that it would put a bill before parliament under a proposal put forward by the ministers of health and justice, Ab Klink and Hirsch Ballin.
The decision, backed by a majority of members of parliament, was taken late Friday after a number of accidents mostly involving tourists.
The health ministry said the number of incidents following use of hallucinogenic mushrooms had risen from 55 in 2004 to more than 100 last year, mainly in Amsterdam.
In March 2007 a 17-year-old French girl who had consumed magic mushrooms died when she jumped off a bridge in the Dutch capital, though no formal link was made between her death and the use of the drug.
The ban on cultivation and use of the mushrooms means the closure of the "smartshops" that sell them. Sale of dried mushrooms is already forbidden, but fresh ones are allowed."
But fresh mushrooms are still available in the Netherlands until a date to be announced.
Netherlands to ban 'magic mushrooms'
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Mushroom ban before the summer
Monday 28 April 2008
The cabinet’s promised ban on the sale of hallucinogenic mushrooms is set to come in before the summer, the Volkskrant reports on Monday.
Ministers agreed to the ban on the sale of fresh mushrooms, which is supported by a majority of MPs, on Friday evening. The sale of dried mushrooms is already illegal.
The Netherlands has an estimated 350 so-called smart shops selling mushrooms and other legal substances that make people high.
The cabinet’s promised ban on the sale of hallucinogenic mushrooms is set to come in before the summer, the Volkskrant reports on Monday.
Ministers agreed to the ban on the sale of fresh mushrooms, which is supported by a majority of MPs, on Friday evening. The sale of dried mushrooms is already illegal.
The Netherlands has an estimated 350 so-called smart shops selling mushrooms and other legal substances that make people high.
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Antonio Peri
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I knew the ban would come. It was just a question of time, although there a no logical arguments for it. Some other countries put the netherlands under pressure inside the european union. It also has to do with more and more similar laws inside the EU.
Tomorrow I will visit my regular smartshop and ask them, what they know about the practical details of the ban. I´m especially interested in if the growkits stay legal - I hope they will, because they doesn´t contain any psilocybin and you can´t consume spontaneously.
Poor Smartshop´s - I´ve heard they make about 70% of their turnover with the mushrooms. I think many of them will have to close their doors. But this is wanted by the government.
I also wonder if, after the ban, their would be more LSD-kitchens, or more use of meskalin (peyote and san pedro) and LSA-containing seeds, like Morning Glory or Hawaiian Baby Woodrose, which are still legal.
Tomorrow I will visit my regular smartshop and ask them, what they know about the practical details of the ban. I´m especially interested in if the growkits stay legal - I hope they will, because they doesn´t contain any psilocybin and you can´t consume spontaneously.
Poor Smartshop´s - I´ve heard they make about 70% of their turnover with the mushrooms. I think many of them will have to close their doors. But this is wanted by the government.
I also wonder if, after the ban, their would be more LSD-kitchens, or more use of meskalin (peyote and san pedro) and LSA-containing seeds, like Morning Glory or Hawaiian Baby Woodrose, which are still legal.
Lock me up and fine me, make me pee in a cup, I'll still take shrooms.Antonio Peri wrote:I knew the ban would come. It was just a question of time, although there a no logical arguments for it. Some other countries put the netherlands under pressure inside the european union. It also has to do with more and more similar laws inside the EU.
Tomorrow I will visit my regular smartshop and ask them, what they know about the practical details of the ban. I´m especially interested in if the growkits stay legal - I hope they will, because they doesn´t contain any psilocybin and you can´t consume spontaneously.
Poor Smartshop´s - I´ve heard they make about 70% of their turnover with the mushrooms. I think many of them will have to close their doors. But this is wanted by the government.
I also wonder if, after the ban, their would be more LSD-kitchens, or more use of meskalin (peyote and san pedro) and LSA-containing seeds, like Morning Glory or Hawaiian Baby Woodrose, which are still legal.
Please post here what you find out from the smartshop proprietors. I'm here in the States and emailed one of them. The word I got back was that mushrooms would remain legal until 7/14. However, this only rumour and was not confirmed by anyone official. I'm reserved to go the first week in June and will be keeping my fingers crossed that the fun doesn't end before I arrive. Up to this point, all my buddies had told me not to worry, that the Dutch lawmakers would debate the issue to eternity and nothing would ever change (or at least no outright ban). I'm hoping that this is still the case.
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I´ve been to the netherlands on wednesday. At the moment you can still buy all types of (fresh) mushrooms and also growkits.
The guy in the smartshop also had only unsatisfieing answers. They don´t know themself when the ban will come. Rumours say it will come before the Summer-Holidays(a minister in the "tweede kamer" - parliament, said it first). They couldn´t even tell me, if the growkits stay legal. They don´t know more than we do.
But I think it´s time to fill up our stock. I took my (last?) chance to buy some nice Copelandia Tropicalis Hawaiian Mushrooms.
P.S. I`ll tell you my opion, concerning the ban: The US dominate the UNO - the UNO`s policy is the (from the US initiated) "war on drugs" - "a drug-free world is possible" and so on.
The UNO puts the European Union under pressure, and countries like France, Germany and the scandinavian-countries put Netherland under pressure inside the eu.
The ban of mushrooms in all countries around the Netherlands, caused legal problems, because it was a contradiction concerning the eu-law of free cicuit of goods inside the eu, that says, that when a product can be legally bought in one country of the eu, it must be legal in all other eu-countries also. And normally eu-laws are above national-laws. That`s the real reason for the ban - not some freaked-out-tourists, like the media say.
The guy in the smartshop also had only unsatisfieing answers. They don´t know themself when the ban will come. Rumours say it will come before the Summer-Holidays(a minister in the "tweede kamer" - parliament, said it first). They couldn´t even tell me, if the growkits stay legal. They don´t know more than we do.
But I think it´s time to fill up our stock. I took my (last?) chance to buy some nice Copelandia Tropicalis Hawaiian Mushrooms.
P.S. I`ll tell you my opion, concerning the ban: The US dominate the UNO - the UNO`s policy is the (from the US initiated) "war on drugs" - "a drug-free world is possible" and so on.
The UNO puts the European Union under pressure, and countries like France, Germany and the scandinavian-countries put Netherland under pressure inside the eu.
The ban of mushrooms in all countries around the Netherlands, caused legal problems, because it was a contradiction concerning the eu-law of free cicuit of goods inside the eu, that says, that when a product can be legally bought in one country of the eu, it must be legal in all other eu-countries also. And normally eu-laws are above national-laws. That`s the real reason for the ban - not some freaked-out-tourists, like the media say.
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So if your reasoning were correct, why are they not also banning cannabis sales in the Netherlands coffeeshops?Antonio Peri wrote:P.S. I`ll tell you my opion, concerning the ban: The US dominate the UNO - the UNO`s policy is the (from the US initiated) "war on drugs" - "a drug-free world is possible" and so on.
The UNO puts the European Union under pressure, and countries like France, Germany and the scandinavian-countries put Netherland under pressure inside the eu.
The ban of mushrooms in all countries around the Netherlands, caused legal problems, because it was a contradiction concerning the eu-law of free cicuit of goods inside the eu, that says, that when a product can be legally bought in one country of the eu, it must be legal in all other eu-countries also. And normally eu-laws are above national-laws. That`s the real reason for the ban - not some freaked-out-tourists, like the media say.
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