Why cannabis should NOT be legal

711 · Post by **711** » Sun 25th Jun 2006 08:39 pm

I'm a child, I have an excuse.

Rev · Post by **Rev** » Sun 25th Jun 2006 08:43 pm

That's why normally my only other forum is uk420..no under 18's, maybe should be a rule here as in all honestly your too young to get served in coffeshops so have nothing to contribute to the forum apart from childish arguing.

Boner · Post by **Boner** » Sun 25th Jun 2006 08:43 pm

AmeriSkunk wrote:Dr. Gonzo do you understand this is a pro-cannabis forum If you dont like weed stop complaining and leave, we do not care to share your left field opinion, you are rupping my fellow stoners the wrong way pal.

Who are you to decide what we do or dont want to read, I'm all for people expressing their opinions on cannabis be it for or against so please speak for yourself and not the rest of us, thankyou.

mazdog · Post by **mazdog** » Sun 25th Jun 2006 09:13 pm

the last on this from me;

It just isn't that simple

yes i relize that BUT....who the fuck are you, the govt, or anyone else to dteremine what i can ingest PERIOD

If the problem is what i do after ingest whatever then make reasonable realistic laws about what physical actions are ok, not laws on waht i can ingest. Example---make everything legal and easily available (and tax the hell out of it, so the fucking govt can stop taking 25% of the money i bust my ass for) then make stricter laws about driving under the influence, spousal abuse, child abuse etc....so i can get as high as i want but if drive or beat up someone or whatever then i go to jail no questions asked. IMO half the problem with the current system is the bullshit manner in which some of the laws are enforced.....I personally know several people with multiple DUI's that between haven't served more tahn 2 months in jail. I say the first time you get a DUI you do a FULL year in prison, second time you do 2 years. For thiefs same kinda thing or even better you steal you lose a finger...you steal again you lose the hand etc.
Frankly the punishments these day are retarded. If there were painful punishments crime would drop. If the possibly existed that i would automatically pend a year in jail for DUI, there is no way in hell i'd drive drunk.....if i would lose a finger no way in hell i'm gonna steal etc.

ehhh whatever.....i'm argueing with a 16 yr old over the internet.....WTF? i gotta go.

711 · Post by **711** » Sun 25th Jun 2006 09:18 pm

Rev wrote:That's why normally my only other forum is uk420..no under 18's, maybe should be a rule here as in all honestly your too young to get served in coffeshops so have nothing to contribute to the forum apart from childish arguing.

That's just a little too rude and condescending, I think. I'm all for good spirited discussions and debates, but when it comes down to insults, intolerance, and bigotry, I think things have gone a little far.

This thread is becoming far too hostile, and I don't want one stupid little disagreement to ruin a community I've only just joined. I say the thread should be locked soon to prevent further hostility, what do you say?

Rez · Post by **Rez** » Sun 25th Jun 2006 11:15 pm

Boner wrote:
AmeriSkunk wrote:Dr. Gonzo do you understand this is a pro-cannabis forum If you dont like weed stop complaining and leave, we do not care to share your left field opinion, you are rupping my fellow stoners the wrong way pal.
Who are you to decide what we do or dont want to read, I'm all for people expressing their opinions on cannabis be it for or against so please speak for yourself and not the rest of us, thankyou.

I second that. I takes a bold person to speak for the entire community. Even if you have been around for a while I think it's rule #1 not to speak for the group. I've kinda done it but expressed my view of " I think we would all say the same..."

... I say that I have noticed how "these" types of thread have become more frequent over the past few weeks. A few weeks that have encountered higher than normal new memberships being taken out by younger poeple. I welcome everybody to this forum and unless you decide to disclose your age I will judge you on how you behave. Behave like a fucking pain in the ass kid and that's how I'll tread you, regardless of your age.

As far as my experience with this forum, any upset/disagreements on a thread are kept within that thread. You could piss me off big time with something you say, I may not express my mood openly but will never let my mood follow me into another thread.

It's been said before, have a smoke, take a step back and chill the fuck out (thankyou for that wonderful line Mazdog)... we all have our own opinions and nobody has the right to deem who is right or wrong, if you can't converse without damaging the mood and vibe of this place then I no longer welcome you. wow, I am stoned

Mark_d · Post by **Mark_d** » Sun 25th Jun 2006 11:53 pm

im one of the younger members of the group bein 18, ive not been on for that long...so i know i dont have the right to tell anyone what to do or anythin like that

BUT CAN EVERYONE JUST CHILL THE FUCK OUT!!!!!

this is a forum about amsterdam and smokin weed and stuff, this is the first big arguement ive seen....711 and ameriskunk ( or whatever your called) it seems that you dont want to accept that other people have different views, fair play you are stating your opinions and arguing and stuff.

but ameriskunk in particular who are YOU to tell anyone to stop talkin on this forum, especially someone whos been on here for much longer than you and is far more respected on the board....im not tryin to disrepsect you here, but coming on and acting like your the daddy...well your not ( IM THE DADDY NOW! GOT IT?!!?!?.....anyone seen the film scum might get that)

so why doesnt everyone just take a step back and chill ( pretty sure thats been said but it was a good suggestion)

sorry for the long post

711 · Post by **711** » Mon 26th Jun 2006 12:07 am

This thread is nothing but long posts, it will blend right in. =P

But, right. I don't like when this kind of thread gets set into motion. I acknowledge and apologize for my part in it, I guess in my haste to speak my mind, I didn't come to respect that things aren't done the same everywhere, so again, I apologize for upsetting or insulting anyone.

To repeat it for the nth time, yeah, let's all just take a chill. =D

AzLaker · Post by **AzLaker** » Mon 26th Jun 2006 01:47 am

Mark_d, very well said!!!

Thanks 711, for personally cooling the fire. It takes a real person to apologize, weather you were right or wrong.

Sometimes these topics get a little heated, but at least we can all agree to disagree and still get along. AzLaker

AmeriSkunk · Post by **AmeriSkunk** » Mon 26th Jun 2006 02:54 am

You would think as a daily smoker that you would not want someone comparing marijuana to Cocaine, excuse me for speaking for everyone. But allot of you said that you bite your toungs but if you look at the hit count on this thread, you would see 1600 bitten toungs, and I would think that they bit their toungs because of the fact that they dont agree with this thread.

I not disagreeing that people should be able to put anything In their body, I just cant see comparing weed to refined cocaine, snorthing draino and gasoline are you choices

Boner you took what I said and started a war, good job

Do any of you think any pot smokers in The Netherlands would agree and say that weed should be illegal? You guys should speak from experience not from internet mumbo jumbo it would cut down on the he said, she said BS. and I'm sure the site owner is a huge fan of this thread(with gobs of sarcasm). Like I said sorry for speaking for you if you didnt agree. Stop the arguement children

As for me supposidly acting "greater than thou", I have one thing to say.
Experience overrides your opinions that you have read online.
Dr.g if you think weed should be illegal, and you think it is that bad why do you smoke it, I am not trying to be rude but Iwould really like to know the answer to this?

DrGonzo · Post by **DrGonzo** » Mon 26th Jun 2006 07:56 am

Please I implore you, quote me where I said weed is bad, quote me where I compared cocaine to weed.

Now if you really feel the need to have a pop please do it on what I actually wrote and not what you assume any meanings to be.

"Experience overrides your opinions that you have read online. "

You're exactly the sort of self righteous prick that brings forums like this down. You love the sound of your own voice and opinions at the expense of what's actually been written.

Well done, you must be very proud.

711, I'm sorry your family have had drink related problems, but I'm damn sure that shouldn't preclude me or anyone else from enjoying a drink.

Boner · Post by **Boner** » Mon 26th Jun 2006 10:35 am

AmeriSkunk wrote:Boner you took what I said and started a war, good job

Hold on a second dont try and turn it round that I started the problems in this thread as its clearly you that did that, I think you should lay off the weed as its making you delussional.

Rev · Post by **Rev** » Mon 26th Jun 2006 10:49 am

On a really childish level..Ameriskunk your just being a clueless prick now mate...

DrGonzo · Post by **DrGonzo** » Mon 26th Jun 2006 11:14 am

I wouldn't say clueless Rev.

He obviously has a mind, over opinionated as it is.

The acceptance that people have a view other than yours and are entitled to that view would go a long way here.

Oh, that and the fact that he creates or imagines other people to have a view that they clearly don't.

He's obviously passionate about the subject which is good, but this passion has removed reason and logic.

Mark_d · Post by **Mark_d** » Mon 26th Jun 2006 12:27 pm

ameriskunk your not the only person here that has lived a life you know....true im only young so i cant speak much from experience which is why im not saying much here...but alot of hte people on this forum are older than me and im pretty sure know what they are talkin about from experience, but are backin it up with facts and info from the internet cos personal experiences cant form a conclusive arguement about the entire drug situation!!!!!