Well I shall be trying it out, pure weed joints that is. Had 'em before but prefer mixing for many reasons. Like you said smoking it pure uses it up pretty damn quickly and also it heightens your tolerance which all hurts in the pocket!
I prefer to mix- even if its just a little layer of tobacco underneath and on top of the weed - to help it burn - I just like it that way. So probably most of the time i'll just smoke them outside, I like the outside areas anyway at Amnesia and Ricks. I will be interested to see which places have the separate rooms set up. Though don't go and get the impression and coming round to the idea, i appreciate some people aren't bothered but it is a shame to see people saying 'well at least we can do this' and 'at least we can still do that'. Yeah, we can at least still take whatever scraps those fuckers throw to us. Anyway, I've made my point and will leave it now...
Tried vaporiser the other day- was pretty nice stoned but didn't feel like smoking - joints are easily the best method
People against the tobacco ban in Coffeeshops.
Wouldnt it save you money cause you would smoke less to get to "the place you want to be"? You could start out smoking on a half or 3rd of a joint, or do I see it wrong?Themindwanders wrote:Well I shall be trying it out, pure weed joints that is. Had 'em before but prefer mixing for many reasons. Like you said smoking it pure uses it up pretty damn quickly and also it heightens your tolerance which all hurts in the pocket!
All my smoking decades have been with pure and I turn down a tobacco mix spliff when it is offered to me. I cant stand the mixed ones and I smoke those nasty cigs as well. Shalom
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I am thinking about smoking pure now for a while......but I dont know how to manage it. should we roll with small papes instead of the long ones? leave the tip out? or still roll with long papes and then dont smoke a whole joint? how do you do thisPuffin13 wrote:Wouldnt it save you money cause you would smoke less to get to "the place you want to be"? You could start out smoking on a half or 3rd of a joint, or do I see it wrong?Themindwanders wrote:Well I shall be trying it out, pure weed joints that is. Had 'em before but prefer mixing for many reasons. Like you said smoking it pure uses it up pretty damn quickly and also it heightens your tolerance which all hurts in the pocket!
All my smoking decades have been with pure and I turn down a tobacco mix spliff when it is offered to me. I cant stand the mixed ones and I smoke those nasty cigs as well. Shalom
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I think you just roll it like you would normally - though it is more difficult.
The reason it won't save me money is because it isn't just the effects I enjoy- it is the smoking - savouring the taste and inhaling the fumes - nice. I don't plan to switch permanently just yet though one day I will (hopefully one day I will be able to afford it). My other problem is that eventually I will move back to England because I want to get a degree and I can't smoke pure weed back home due to the high cost of weed in England. Where I come from it is a stressful, frustrating task even getting the stuff sometimes! So further reason not to smoke it all in a few joints- day to day life without weed doesn't sit well with me. Some of the deals back home are so tight that they'd only make 2 maybe 3 pure joints... lame. Eventually though Amsterdam is to be my permanent home - I just hope it doesn't have the spirit and great attitude squeezed out of it.
The reason it won't save me money is because it isn't just the effects I enjoy- it is the smoking - savouring the taste and inhaling the fumes - nice. I don't plan to switch permanently just yet though one day I will (hopefully one day I will be able to afford it). My other problem is that eventually I will move back to England because I want to get a degree and I can't smoke pure weed back home due to the high cost of weed in England. Where I come from it is a stressful, frustrating task even getting the stuff sometimes! So further reason not to smoke it all in a few joints- day to day life without weed doesn't sit well with me. Some of the deals back home are so tight that they'd only make 2 maybe 3 pure joints... lame. Eventually though Amsterdam is to be my permanent home - I just hope it doesn't have the spirit and great attitude squeezed out of it.
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Hey, a little late but I thought I'd put in my 2 cent gripe - yeah, I'm a non tobacco smoker (mix with hasj, smoke backwoods cigar wraps with herb tho') and BOY, DO I EVER OPPOSE THE BAN! Here in the states it's been a virtual witch hunt against tobacco smokers. Long gone are the days when one could enjoy a quality cigar (ok, I guess I DO smoke some tobac) and enjoy a delicious dinner. As far as I'm concerned it's been the greedy assed cigarette companies that have RUINED tobacco. The wife found herself addicted to a BRAND for Christ sake - another brand was good but after she "needed a smoke". Don't blame tobacco for that, blame the shit they put into it.
In Amsterdam there was NOTHING and I mean NOTHING better then the ritual of breaking up the chunk of hasj, cracking open the American spirit butt, and lovingly fold the rizla and roll the filter tip. Ah, the ceremony to celebrate what was about to come...
The wife DID quit the butts (THANKFULLY), but damn, there was something special about just hangin around a coffeeshop and chatting with locals - many of whom were ONLY smoking butts. What, will I be left with nothing but fellow Americans (no offense, but I like to meet others too!) and overly stoned Europeans? Will coffeeshops be more like Opium dens now or what?
The old gent smoking a butt and sipping cafe is, in this American's eye, a European tradition that I hate to see evaporate. Here in the states the criminalizing of tobacco made it IMPOSSIBLE to fire up in concerts anymore. Now even in OUTDOOR shows they threaten to toss you out if you even flick yer lighter. Encores by cellphone only now, I guess.
I fear what our next visit will bring - I will miss sitting in the Tweede in the late evening, enjoying their eclectic music selection smoking a hasj joint. Pure joints? Man, I've been smoking the backwoods wraps for far too long now to go to Amsterdam and have to change the way I smoke.
We'll be back, but let me tell you...I'm concerned.
Phew, sorry for the rant!
In Amsterdam there was NOTHING and I mean NOTHING better then the ritual of breaking up the chunk of hasj, cracking open the American spirit butt, and lovingly fold the rizla and roll the filter tip. Ah, the ceremony to celebrate what was about to come...
The wife DID quit the butts (THANKFULLY), but damn, there was something special about just hangin around a coffeeshop and chatting with locals - many of whom were ONLY smoking butts. What, will I be left with nothing but fellow Americans (no offense, but I like to meet others too!) and overly stoned Europeans? Will coffeeshops be more like Opium dens now or what?
The old gent smoking a butt and sipping cafe is, in this American's eye, a European tradition that I hate to see evaporate. Here in the states the criminalizing of tobacco made it IMPOSSIBLE to fire up in concerts anymore. Now even in OUTDOOR shows they threaten to toss you out if you even flick yer lighter. Encores by cellphone only now, I guess.
I fear what our next visit will bring - I will miss sitting in the Tweede in the late evening, enjoying their eclectic music selection smoking a hasj joint. Pure joints? Man, I've been smoking the backwoods wraps for far too long now to go to Amsterdam and have to change the way I smoke.
We'll be back, but let me tell you...I'm concerned.
Phew, sorry for the rant!
its bouquet sweet & pungent, its bite will roast
Word of advice to people unfamiliar with smoking pure: you need to take smaller tokes with more air in or you'll be coughing up a lung or two 
I prefer with baccy, but it's not the end of the world having to smoke pure inside coffeeshops (although I doubt this will happen everywhere). I'll still be smoking mixed ones on the street, whether it's allowed or not.
I prefer with baccy, but it's not the end of the world having to smoke pure inside coffeeshops (although I doubt this will happen everywhere). I'll still be smoking mixed ones on the street, whether it's allowed or not.
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Further ranting...
It isn't the end of the world having to smoke pure weed sure- I'm just dead against the utter absurdity of the ban - and the connotations it may have. If the Netherlands begins to follow the UK's and the US's lead on tobacco issues it is a bad sign of things to come. The health ministers want tobacco smokers to feel like lepers - we all know what these leeches really think about cannabis smoking; they will try and curb that as well.
Then shrooms go - then alcohol laws are tightened - then they make tobacco more and more expensive - then they make alcohol more and more expensive
An easily accepted ban will be noted- trust me- noted for future reference. "Ah good! The people are becoming malleable."
I mean COME ON you can't smoke tobacco in a cannabis bar! The strange nature of this law is not lost on the Government. How long is it before this culture of tolerance is attacked? How long before they cave in as the EU tightens the screws? You know this system works - it is the envy of the world - but the world doesn't want to adopt it, it wants to destroy it.
There is something very ominous about this sudden worldwide war on tobacco. The problem is that most people are utterly susceptible to the way the state manipulates - attitudes are changes and ignorance spreads like a disease. Suddenly if you smoke tobacco even outside people give you looks! It happens in the UK and US - after such a long time of tobacco being part of our culture. It really isn't that long ago before smoking tobacco was the done thing - for men and women. My point being is that doesn't take long for attitudes to be changed and for people to be manipulated. Now tobacco smokers are lepers.
These people ALWAYS have an agenda!
What do those blood sucking vermin have planned for Holland's cannabis culture?
Everything is decaying.
Then shrooms go - then alcohol laws are tightened - then they make tobacco more and more expensive - then they make alcohol more and more expensive
An easily accepted ban will be noted- trust me- noted for future reference. "Ah good! The people are becoming malleable."
I mean COME ON you can't smoke tobacco in a cannabis bar! The strange nature of this law is not lost on the Government. How long is it before this culture of tolerance is attacked? How long before they cave in as the EU tightens the screws? You know this system works - it is the envy of the world - but the world doesn't want to adopt it, it wants to destroy it.
There is something very ominous about this sudden worldwide war on tobacco. The problem is that most people are utterly susceptible to the way the state manipulates - attitudes are changes and ignorance spreads like a disease. Suddenly if you smoke tobacco even outside people give you looks! It happens in the UK and US - after such a long time of tobacco being part of our culture. It really isn't that long ago before smoking tobacco was the done thing - for men and women. My point being is that doesn't take long for attitudes to be changed and for people to be manipulated. Now tobacco smokers are lepers.
These people ALWAYS have an agenda!
What do those blood sucking vermin have planned for Holland's cannabis culture?
Everything is decaying.
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Damn right I'll be smoking mixed on the streets!
Yes smoking pure is a little different - can feel a bit harsh at first - you get the full flavour which is nice and only the weed effects. I still prefer the mix though, prefer the taste and the smoothness over pure; perhaps I'm just used to it. Even if I already smoked pure i'd still feel the same way about the tobacco ban - don't smoke cigarettes but I still have a problem with the UK ban. Felt it could have been more flexible to allow Landlords and business owners the discretion to make an informed decision about the issue - as is their right in our 'free society'. The result would have been almost the same except a few bars here and there would still be smoker friendly.
La de da
Yes smoking pure is a little different - can feel a bit harsh at first - you get the full flavour which is nice and only the weed effects. I still prefer the mix though, prefer the taste and the smoothness over pure; perhaps I'm just used to it. Even if I already smoked pure i'd still feel the same way about the tobacco ban - don't smoke cigarettes but I still have a problem with the UK ban. Felt it could have been more flexible to allow Landlords and business owners the discretion to make an informed decision about the issue - as is their right in our 'free society'. The result would have been almost the same except a few bars here and there would still be smoker friendly.
La de da
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Some places are ignoring the ban, it is certainly quite relaxed. Kind of waiting for that first fine because if that day comes, things will be very different. Once someone gets that fine everywhere will become stricter, they'll have to. Let's hope it never happens...
Being told off by someone for smoking tobacco in your joint... it doesn't sit well with me.
Being told off by someone for smoking tobacco in your joint... it doesn't sit well with me.
"Buy the ticket, take the ride"
@HasjDreamer:
Dont be too sad about it, of course it cuts the freedom of us all, but the atmosphere still is great in the shops, just a bit less smoking. like Theminwaders said, some shops are ignoring the rule. And believe me, its not the worst to have to go outside, sit with others (if locals or tourists) and smoke a joint. Its the perfect situation to start a conversation with people you dont know yet
Dont be too sad about it, of course it cuts the freedom of us all, but the atmosphere still is great in the shops, just a bit less smoking. like Theminwaders said, some shops are ignoring the rule. And believe me, its not the worst to have to go outside, sit with others (if locals or tourists) and smoke a joint. Its the perfect situation to start a conversation with people you dont know yet
Understand most of what you are saying there themindwanders, but it's obviously been a long time since you were in England, weed is much cheaper here than in Adam, it's £20 an eighth, works out about 7.50 euros a gram, and we get all the same stuff just as you do in the dam.
I have had my favorite flavours over here and the dam, and apart from a dodgy batch of chocolope over here, i can say the quality is as good. Just don't buy the gang crap.
I have had my favorite flavours over here and the dam, and apart from a dodgy batch of chocolope over here, i can say the quality is as good. Just don't buy the gang crap.
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