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budder storage

Posted: Thu 3rd Jul 2008 03:40 pm
by urma
i was wondering if anybody has tried budder before?

as far as i'm aware it isn't available in amsterdam 'cos the guy who invented the process of making it (it's 99.7% pure thc) lives in canada and he's keeping his methods to himself, but i'm sure that between all the dope fiends on this forum somebody has tried it before.

anyways, i hear that it is runny at room temperature and i wanted to know the best way to store it? anybody? and don't say "in yer lungs!" lol!!

thanx

Posted: Thu 3rd Jul 2008 03:53 pm
by iwanitnow567
wow... 99.7 % THC. thats more than in the cannabis oil, which is illeagal even in Holland from what i hear...

Posted: Thu 3rd Jul 2008 04:08 pm
by greenleaf420
dont kno about hte 99.7 thing

Posted: Thu 3rd Jul 2008 04:12 pm
by urma

Posted: Thu 3rd Jul 2008 04:59 pm
by cheese
it is true that it is almost 99% THC.

i am from canada and its available at many different sources.. the best would be the compassion clubs in ontario and BC

it is not really runny at room temp, but it does get very hard to work with at room temperature. before i am about to smoke it , i throw it in the freezer for like 5-10 minutes and then it gets hard and i can cut off little samples to smoke. The best way i find to smoke it is to drop a small piece on a hot charcoal puck. first light the puck, get it all hot, then drop a small piece on the puck. Then just suck off the smoke with a rolled up piece of paper or straw or something. whatever works best for you. its also useful to smoke it the same way you would oil.

i have found that this stuff varies significantly from batch to batch... some are more indica, some a mix , some are pure sativa... some taste more chemically than others, while some make you cough more than others. i have tried a total of 9 batches.. i would say 2 of the 9 were not up to par and tasted a bit off.. also made me cough my brains out... althought it did get me mashed off my ass.

soooo i would say store it in a nice small container , not plastic... and keep it at room temp or in the freezer before your gonna smoke it. the shit is a bitch to work with before smoking..

Posted: Thu 3rd Jul 2008 05:20 pm
by urma
thanks cheese, great post, you covered all the bases.

Re: budder storage

Posted: Fri 4th Jul 2008 09:05 am
by Puffin13
urma wrote:as far as i'm aware it isn't available in amsterdam 'cos the guy who invented the process of making it (it's 99.7% pure thc) lives in canada and he's keeping his methods to himself,
There is an entire thread about making Budder at International Cannagraphic mag. Here is part of that thread:

"Here's a quick explanation (it's basically dried REALLY GOOD honey oil)

It takes BUDS to make budder of this quality with ISO, tops preferably, of a super-crystally strain (ones with lots of terpenes seem to do it well)

rinse #1
the product, frozen buds, previously pulled apart to individual nugs (each about marble size), are put into a 4 cup pyrex measuring cup (2/3 full), and frozen iso is poured into it (enough to cover the buds, stirred , and drained immediately into said sieve/filter setup (holding back the bud while letting alcohol drain)
rinse#2
again fill the measuring cup with (fresh) frozen iso over the same batch of buds, this time crunching a little bit of the bud, and again drain
rinse #3
again fill the measuring cup with (fresh) frozen iso over the same batch of buds, this time crunching them fairly well, and again drain

remember, keep your rinses seperate (i have 3 or 4 stations set up with sieves/filter ready so I don't have to wait or slow down, at the end you can decide @ what point the rinses are impotent, or have color, or taste bad, allowing you to maximize not just yield, but potency. (some of us custom tailor our rinses, #1 & #3 together, etc., as they all produce adifferent high.

this is what I consider 3 rinses.

Remember, this can easily produce a dark, poor tasting product, the process MUST be done extremely fast, all 3 rinses in 15- 30 seconds.

The key i found in success was allowing normally dry buds out for several days in a dry, warm environment, until they are light colored, and puff into dust when squeezed.
It should be that dry, get rid of as much of the chlorophyl before hand, and the extreme rinsing has that much less of a chance to pull it out.
this is also why everything is frozen, the iso has less of a chance to soak into the plant material, the coldness and dryness and the broken up state of the buds all help in allowing as much crystal to be washed off the plant as possible.
I found #1 rinse isn't as good as when U add #2 and sometimes #3 to it. there is something to that, as well as increased yield.

typical yield off 28 g. of excellent bud - 3.5 - 4 g. of budder, although I've seen up to 5 g. on some peoples weed (where are U now) Although most strains give less than 3, and plenty of so called killer strains won't even "budder up'. By this I mean the final step, when it dries into paste from a liquid state, and the color changes to very light, even white some strains, the crystal is so pure. adding the second rinse to 1 really helps. typically I would get 1.5 g. off #1, about the same off #2, and less than 1/2 of that off #3 (1/2 - 3/4 g.)

butane yields more, up to 50% more in some cases."

The entire thread is HERE. Peace.

Posted: Fri 4th Jul 2008 05:02 pm
by SRH_Spaded
didnt the one of the bushdoctor shops have something on the menu called budder in replacement for the jelly hashes? I dont know if its even the samething, perhaps someone who has been over recently can remember better than me.



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Posted: Sat 5th Jul 2008 03:48 pm
by indapark.co.uk - Spliff
yea, they do have a "Butter". Personally, having tested the "Budder" from BudM (BC) it is very comprable.

It is 100% a "Budder", the quality is a bit lower, but its still incredibly potent!

I asked the tender about it, he had no idea how it was made or what it was, but he said it was very new and their dealer just told them it would sell.

I can take a pic of what i have left if you want to see...

Posted: Sat 5th Jul 2008 04:18 pm
by cheese
would love to see a pic of the budder bushdoctor has.

i sure hope the dude or dudes making it over in holland dial in on there technique and offer a nice sample of budder. i personally think its nice to have in your stash and if your looking for something a bit different, this is it.

cheers

Posted: Sat 5th Jul 2008 09:49 pm
by Prestoned
I have 0.35 BubbleMania just waiting to be used next Sunay for my birthday :D

Posted: Mon 7th Jul 2008 01:25 pm
by Marok21
i had test the budder hash from Bluebird for 50€/g. The first 30minuntes of the high are very TRIPPY (like to much...) for me. After that you feel for 4-5 hours really high. Never had something like that... you are ultra high for such a long time on one level... no sleep feelings very clear strong high.

The Budder has a yellow brownish colour and was very very soft. It looks verry differnet from other hashes. At first you dont see the high THC Oil content but the lady at the bar light a small piece of that stuff up and then u see the real oil content. Its melting in a mini second and bubbles awesome... never seen something like that.

In my Opinion its the best "High End" Hash u can get. Its cleaner then any Ice O Lator (Barneys Rubble, Water Works...) i had tried and the High is so long lasting amazing.

Posted: Mon 7th Jul 2008 01:47 pm
by jonny1leg
How did you smoke the butter?

The guy in the Bushdocter didn't really seem to know...

I ended up bonging most of it and putting the rest in a spliff

Posted: Mon 7th Jul 2008 02:44 pm
by Marok21
I smoked it in the bong/waterpipe... I cut a piece of 0,1 in 3-4 parts and put it on top of tabacco or weed in the Waterpipe head. In my oppinion its better to put it on top as mix it up normal with the Tabacco/Weed because u get a better flavoured hit of that and the oils are dont go away.

sorry for my bad english :oops:

Posted: Mon 7th Jul 2008 08:22 pm
by jonny1leg
No need to apologise about your English, it's great :)

I smoked it in the same way, bud in the bong with a little lump of butter on top.

Mmmmmmm :)

This was followed by lots of stoned talk about being "Buttered" and "Anchored"...