Problems smoking Rifman

StonedSince67 · Post by **StonedSince67** » Mon 14th Jul 2008 06:48 am

After reading about Rifman hashes I was quite excited to try some on a recent trip. But my usual method of smoking hashish did not work and I am wondering why.

Since the 60s I have smoked my hash pure (i.e. without tobacco) in a standard briar pipe with a small metal screen inserted about half-way down in the bowl. I heat the blade of a small knife and cut a little pile of small flakes from a piece of hash. These flakes burn well in the pipe, I get stoned and I am then left with a little pile of ashes of the right colour and consistency.

When I tried this method with some Rifman hash, the hash started to bubble when I touched the piece with the hot knife and I ended up with no flakes and a knife covered with melted Rifman. When it cooled the melted Rifman was glued, almost welded, to the knife.

When the knife had cooled I then tried again to cut some flakes and was more successful. But when I put these flakes in the pipe and put a match to them, they bubbled like crazy and glued themselves to the screen. I got very little smoke, did not get stoned and now had a completely blocked pipe. I managed to prise the resulting mess out of the pipe and replaced the screen.

I then turned my attention to a piece of Golden Maroc from WW Sativa (highly recommended for a mild smoke btw) and things went better.

Now nicely stoned I was left to ponder upon what a disaster the Rifman was for me.

Can anyone please explain why the Rifman bubbled and why my normal method of smoking hashish failed so spectacularly?

Puffin13 · Post by **Puffin13** » Mon 14th Jul 2008 07:33 am

The Rifman hash that you smoked was probably Bubble hash. This hash is made by a ice/water extraction method. Regular hash, like the Golden Maroc, is normally made using a dry sieve method. The Bubble hash or ice hash or Ice-O-lator is normally much stronger than hash made by the dry sieve and pressed method. It's near impossible to to get "flakes" from Bubble hash. Vaporizing is a good method for ingesting ice hash; there is even a special Volcano vaporizer screen for it. Things are just not the same as they were back in the '60's and 70's, are they?

Peace n Love.

StonedSince67 · Post by **StonedSince67** » Mon 14th Jul 2008 09:20 am

Thanks for the info.

Are all Rifman hashes Bubble hashes?

beat51uk · Post by **beat51uk** » Mon 14th Jul 2008 09:25 am

Don't think Rifman do bubble hash they are all traditional sieved hashes. Tried a few all very good but I smoked them in a joint with baccy.

Boner · Post by **Boner** » Mon 14th Jul 2008 01:34 pm

I didn't think Rifman was bubble tbh, it's more likely to be the oil thats in the hash, just break small bits off without using anything to heat it or smoke a bit of weed and build some spent ash up on the screen then smoke the hash on top of that.

StonedSince67 · Post by **StonedSince67** » Mon 14th Jul 2008 01:55 pm

I can see that approach working as I don't smoke tobacco.

The ones I tried last October were Nouzha from Pink Floyd and Malika from Tweede Kamer. What little smoke of the Nouzha that came through before the pipe seized up completely totally wiped out my companion. After paying for the drinks I came back to the table and he had his head down on his hands on the table. We didn't leave for 2 hours after that, so he obviously found it to be quite strong.

In the end I had to give the two grams away when we left Amsterdam. Never before have I had to give any smoke away because I couldn't find a good way to smoke it. I was very sad and would love to give the Rifman another go.

Valo · Post by **Valo** » Mon 14th Jul 2008 04:02 pm

Personally I loved the rifman hash I tried, and didn't have the problem of it melting like that. But I do know what you are talking about as I did have that problem when it came to smoking some Shiva Ice Hash i bought once.

The way I smoked that was break tiny bits up without heating and load them in the pipe I was smoking them from. Then light up as usually and the hash started bubbling and melting quickly, so I took the flame off for a second or two and then returned it to the hardened resin and continued the same breath (if you got big lungs). On the second toke I found I got a proper lungful and absolutely loved it.

axeman9 · Post by **axeman9** » Mon 14th Jul 2008 04:43 pm

Some of the expensive stuff does, but not all. I like to put a bit of green in the bowl first with some hash "topping". it bubbles and melts over the green and tastes great.

geoffk · Post by **geoffk** » Mon 14th Jul 2008 04:45 pm

I've had this "problem" when smoking under glass. I usually drop it on top of a bed of grass, this seems to work ok. I've smoked it with tobacco, but prefer not, as I like to hold that tasty hash smoke in my lungs for as long as possible...bliss.

smokestaxlitenin · Post by **smokestaxlitenin** » Tue 15th Jul 2008 11:49 am

had some rifman the other day from dampkring....smoked beautifully and got me extra high...i just break it up in a small bowl and puff away.....

Kermit · Post by **Kermit** » Tue 15th Jul 2008 11:51 am

smokestaxlitenin wrote:had some rifman the other day from dampkring....smoked beautifully and got me extra high...i just break it up in a small bowl and puff away.....

Dunya is quite nice and i had no probs with it either. even got 5g to bring home.

HasAnyoneSeenMyPipe · Tue 15th Jul 2008 05:43 pm

All but one of the rifmans bubbled on me, the only one was a rifman polm from the Dampkring in may cannot remember the exact name of it.

HasjDreamer · Post by **HasjDreamer** » Tue 15th Jul 2008 11:14 pm

See, THAT'S why I STARTED mixing tobac with my hasj...my first hashish smoking experiences back in the early '80's was either hot-knifed (fucked up method, my buddy would heat two butter knives with a propane torch and squeeze the tiny hash piece between the knives and suck in the smoke. Propane torches and getting stoned did NOT leave me comfortable!), under glass or in various pipes. I could NEVER get a real good toke going and felt like I was inhaling much more air than smoke and it left me thinking that hasj was "weak". Later, when I would get some killer old-school black 'ghani I'd mix it with bud BUT I'm not a fan of the "tossed salad"...left me high from two directions and not sure WHAT was getting me baked. Hence our first few trips to Amsterdam were nearly hasj-free. That was until I started watching you Euro's smoke hasj. Carefully, almost ritualistically prepped and rolled and the smell was always divine...finally I hit up a friendly local for some "lessons" and the rest is history!

Now, I'm no butt smoker (never have been) BUT I do smoke backwoods cigar wraps with bud so I can appreciate the "ying yang" of the blend. And FINALLY I could appreciate a killer hasj high, with a mouth full of smoke that tasted, when well balanced with an appropriate amount of hasj, virtually TOBAC FREE. Even my wife, a FORMER cigarette smoker enjoys american spirit tobacco mixed with hasj in our joints (and we'll go through a pack and a half of spirits in a week in Amsterdam). However, given the new smoking regulations I may give the substitute a try for our next hasj joint.

iwanitnow567 · Post by **iwanitnow567** » Wed 16th Jul 2008 05:15 pm

HasjDreamer wrote:See, THAT'S why I STARTED mixing tobac with my hasj...my first hashish smoking experiences back in the early '80's was either hot-knifed (fucked up method, my buddy would heat two butter knives with a propane torch and squeeze the tiny hash piece between the knives and suck in the smoke. Propane torches and getting stoned did NOT leave me comfortable!), under glass or in various pipes. I could NEVER get a real good toke going and felt like I was inhaling much more air than smoke and it left me thinking that hasj was "weak". Later, when I would get some killer old-school black 'ghani I'd mix it with bud BUT I'm not a fan of the "tossed salad"...left me high from two directions and not sure WHAT was getting me baked. Hence our first few trips to Amsterdam were nearly hasj-free. That was until I started watching you Euro's smoke hasj. Carefully, almost ritualistically prepped and rolled and the smell was always divine...finally I hit up a friendly local for some "lessons" and the rest is history!

Now, I'm no butt smoker (never have been) BUT I do smoke backwoods cigar wraps with bud so I can appreciate the "ying yang" of the blend. And FINALLY I could appreciate a killer hasj high, with a mouth full of smoke that tasted, when well balanced with an appropriate amount of hasj, virtually TOBAC FREE. Even my wife, a FORMER cigarette smoker enjoys american spirit tobacco mixed with hasj in our joints (and we'll go through a pack and a half of spirits in a week in Amsterdam). However, given the new smoking regulations I may give the substitute a try for our next hasj joint.

lol same here
i love smoking pure weed, and i dont smoke the ciggies, in Adam i stick to pure weed joints or bongs (or vapos), but back in my own country i just make a prerolled cone, chop some hash up ( we cant get weed here), mix it with tobacco, heat the mixture up to get the hash to melt into the tobacco, fill up the cone to a nice joint, and puff away.
i do that only with hash. weed is much better and i smoke it pure.