Rituals

[Lemming]

The Netherlands is a very densely populated little country so buildings tend to be tall and narrow. Inside coffeeshops and bars it is conventional to share a table with others.

On one occasion we were sitting around a large table with two other groups of people. We are English and the other groups were Dutch and American. It proved to be a wonderful opportunity to watch three different smoking rituals side by side.

Our group were rolling our traditional “Three Skinner” joints with tobacco and a “roach” in the end. Much of our dope culture was imported from America decades ago but it changed a bit as it crossed the Atlantic. The word “roach” in Britain is often used to describe the rolled up cardboard that we use as a mouthpiece. Anyway, we were rolling these joints, smoking them for a while and then passing them on to the person sitting next to us.

Meanwhile the American group were rolling much smaller joints with no tobacco and no roach. They would each take a single long drag and pass it on.

Finally, at the end of the table were the Dutch doing it their way. They roll their joints the same way as we do, long with tobacco. They stick cardboard in the end like us but call it a filter rather than a roach even though it’s not designed to filter anything. They smoke slowly like us but after a few leisurely drags, rather than passing it on, they simply put it in the ashtray for later. Each person rolls their own joint and smokes it. I guess 30 years of readily available grass in coffeeshops has killed off the sociable but unhygienic ritual of passing joints around.

[Sess]

With my group of friends it all depends on how much weed everyone has…on our most opulent days it’s a splif each.

I use extra slim filters (Swan) in my joints… they are really worth trying. The roach thing is so much part of the ritual of skinning up that people find it difficult to try this blatantly cleaner way to smoke. Many have quizzed me on if it filters the THC…well I’ve never noticed the difference.

[Lemming]

I used to use those extra slim filters in my cigarettes before I quit tobacco. The conventional wisdom has always been that cannabis smoke has larger particles that would be filtered out if filters were used in joints leaving just tobacco smoke. This might just be an urban myth of course!

[mazdog]

I am one of the only people i know here in the states that rolls with a filter (slice of index card rolled up). Been doin it that way for maybe 3-4 years now, and will never go back to burning without them. Soooo much easier to get good hits, stays a lil cooler, and you can smoke it all the way down!!! Oh and never get chunks of weed with my hits.

I've been tryin to convert fellow US smokers but it just doesn't seem to take

[lctricity]

I am one of the only people i know here in the states that rolls with a filter (slice of index card rolled up). Been doin it that way for maybe 3-4 years now, and will never go back to burning without them. Soooo much easier to get good hits, stays a lil cooler, and you can smoke it all the way down!!! Oh and never get chunks of weed with my hits.

I've been tryin to convert fellow US smokers but it just doesn't seem to take

I hear ya my man. Ever since I came back from Amsterdam with some filter tips I've never looked back in terms of filtered doobs. Why would you want to go back to smoking doobs without filters?

No more need for roach clips.

I think if my friends could figure it out they'd do it but it seems weird to them for some reason, or should I say foreign?

[Boner]

Since quitting the evil weed (yes tobacco) I only ever roll pure joints and I'm sorry to say I dont pass them on I like to use a single king size paper fill it with weed and smoke it till its all gone!!

[milehigh]

I have a glass bong at home for everyday use. I did pick up several packs of filters there many moons ago. I always use them when rolling for friends and parties. They make a great conversation piece too. I am also trying to convert. Here though, people want to roll a quick one, discreetly on the go. A filter can hamper that effort, unless you really have lots of practice. I can roll a great joint with a filter, but I still cant get the cone shape thing down pat yet.

milehigh

[lctricity]

I can roll a great joint with a filter, but I still cant get the cone shape thing down pat yet.

Speaking of cone joints. I can totally relate to being unable to roll in this manner. That said, I can whip out a standard grade filtered US doob anyday of the week in under a minute flat.

Anyway, was checking out Willie Wortels Forums and came across this.

http://www.hempcity.net/cannabisshops/s ... index.html

Can you find these Mountain High King-Size pre-rolled cones farily easily in Amsterdam? If so, where?

[Lemming]

How about inside-out joints? That's where you put the sticky side on the inside and then burn off the surplus paper. Makes a good party trick

Just in case anyone was wondering, I'll just clarify some terminology: the filters that Sarah and I were discussing really are filters - the white spongy things that you get in cigarettes. They are not the same as the rolled-up cardboard mouthpieces that we call "roaches" and that the Dutch and, now, Americans call "filters".

Returning to inside-out joints, the main objective, other than showing off, is to reduce the amount of paper. Rizla have recently introduced silver papers in two sizes that are even thinner than my previous favourite blue ones. Do you have these in the States?

[mazdog]

Not sure about the silver Rizla, i have seen the blue. I will look for them next time i head to my local smokeshop.

The inside out joint thing is kinda tricky. I actually DLed a little video on rolling joints, and that is where i learned about the inside out. I think i could get it down with more practice.

[Valo]

I saw some good rolling videos on everybodydoesit.com I think it was - almost makes me wish I smoked tobacco!

But since tobacco and myself have never really been good friends, I always stick to pipes, bongs and vapos. I just bought myself a cool little water pipe and also a regular pipe with a whole the other end which acts like the whole on a bong - once you take your finger off the seconds hole, you get a viscous hit of smoke and air come through! Very affective!!!

[wietboer]

hi im new here

i roll my joints with a tippie/filter and inside out i dont like the taste of to much paper
smoking blue is the best paper for rolling joints

[timbo]

Only just seen this post, I like using slim blues and I always tear abit off so its even thinner because i'm not a fan of paper. We're always sharing spliffs in England although in Amsterdam I only smoke my own spliffs. When i'm there I use only cognac papers to skin up and do put it in the ashtray for later when I want a rest! I didn't even know this was the dutch way until I read the post, I thought it was cool that I did it their way when i'm in Amsterdam and I didn't even know it. I don't even like smoking any other sort of rizla in Amsterdam apart from cognac papers which i buy from the Damrak(rip off at 5 euros ) I also remember when I was in Toronto last, we were having a spliff and when we'd finished it I realised that I had about six tokes to everybody elses 1(woops), I was nicely stoned!

[scooberu]

what do u mean by cognac papers? are they cigar papers

[timbo]

They are like blunt papers brown aswell, but it is not a cigar paper as such. They look more like a rizla and come in a rizla pack, they also come in different flavours like strawberry and vanilla but I chose the cognac flavour. The flavour is really tasty and when you skin up using about 1g of weed with a hint of tobacco, it feels like you are smoking on a blunt, I'll never use a normal rizla in Amsterdam again.