Amsterdam 28-29th of October, 3 16 year olds.

General discussion about cannabis and coffeeshops.
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isn't this an over 18 site?


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Lemming wrote:If you're under 13 or even under 18 you probably shouldn't be here.
Notice the word probably, end of the day if people under 18 want to learn about MJ then shouldn't we (the supposed responsible adults) try and help them?
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iwanitnow567 wrote:i would tie them up in my basement.



Trust an over reaction from the Israeli contingent ;) lol /






joking no offence.
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Boner wrote:
Lemming wrote:If you're under 13 or even under 18 you probably shouldn't be here.
Notice the word probably, end of the day if people under 18 want to learn about MJ then shouldn't we (the supposed responsible adults) try and help them?
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hi guys i have been reading this post, i think you guys are crazy, if you get caught you get done. Ever been in a foreign jail. wot you your dad say then?

if you cant or dont wont to change ur plans then amsterdam has great sites...other than coffee shops.

smoke at home if you must but dont be dumb on holiday.
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SpaceBunny wrote:hi guys i have been reading this post, i think you guys are crazy, if you get caught you get done. Ever been in a foreign jail. wot you your dad say then?

if you cant or dont wont to change ur plans then amsterdam has great sites...other than coffee shops.

smoke at home if you must but dont be dumb on holiday.
They wont get put in a dutch jail if they get caught smoking weed in Amsterdam.
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Boner wrote:
SpaceBunny wrote:hi guys i have been reading this post, i think you guys are crazy, if you get caught you get done. Ever been in a foreign jail. wot you your dad say then?

if you cant or dont wont to change ur plans then amsterdam has great sites...other than coffee shops.

smoke at home if you must but dont be dumb on holiday.
They wont get put in a dutch jail if they get caught smoking weed in Amsterdam.
They certainly wont. Its the hard working coffeeshop workers and owners that will be fucked over by their selfishness.
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learn about it....yeah, information is always better than ignorance

as for the trip itself, going to another country to hang around the streets approaching strangers and asking them to buy weed seems a bit grim. Dont take offence at that, just take a step back and look at it in that way objectiveley. It's a bit too similar to 'hey mate, can you get us a bottle of vodka and some fags if we give you the money' that i hear here sometimes. Young lads hanging around the streets, approaching people to buy them weed, will attract attention. That attention could be police, or it could be the predators who wake up in the morning praying for an easy mark.

I appreciate that you've got the decency to be looking at ways of enjoying the dam without going into the coffeeshops and risking their business. But your age means many doors in the dam will be shut to you, If you waited until you were 18 you could go and revel in everything the place has to offer. I know you said postponing was not on, but that's what i think, actually scrub that - i know you'd have a better time if you waited. As some other people have suggested, you could just head somewhere different.

hope you dont think im getting at you, because im not. Whatever you do stick together and take care.
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Sir Niall of Essex-sire wrote:
Boner wrote:
SpaceBunny wrote:hi guys i have been reading this post, i think you guys are crazy, if you get caught you get done. Ever been in a foreign jail. wot you your dad say then?

if you cant or dont wont to change ur plans then amsterdam has great sites...other than coffee shops.

smoke at home if you must but dont be dumb on holiday.
They wont get put in a dutch jail if they get caught smoking weed in Amsterdam.
They certainly wont. Its the hard working coffeeshop workers and owners that will be fucked over by their selfishness.
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sandinovive wrote:thanks for the advice but i was trying to find a solution that didn't involve one of us going into the coffeeshop to buy the actual weed.
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sandinovive wrote:thanks for the advice but i was trying to find a solution that didn't involve one of us going into the coffeeshop to buy the actual weed.
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NO ONE WILL DO IT. IMAGINE A 14 YEAR OLD ASKING YOU TO BUY CIGGS FOR THEM !!!!! GET REAL.
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Naw i caught that bit Boner but you honsetly think theres a way for them to do it without going into a Coffeeshop?

And also tbh i dont care in helping them really, as its against the rules in Amsterdam. Its the rules we stick by so why should other people go against them? I would rather the Coffeeshops stay open in amsterdam than get closed down because some underaged kids were trying to score pot.

I mean christ all mighty i mix tobacco in my doobs but when in 'dam i ask the budtender and if he says go smoke it outside i will, i wouldnt try to blag him and smoke it inside. We're lucky enough that a place like amsterdam exisits, and its a fragile sitiuation in which it does exisit. So lets not poke a bear in the bollocks with a stick if you see what im getting at.

Im not having a go at he original poster. I understand you want to go 'dam and smoke some of the best buds in the world. But your running a risk for the coffeeshops which isnt really fair. I doubt as Ash333 said that someone would buy it for you. I wouldnt. And do you really want to spend your money going on a holiday in which your going to have to spend most your days acting like a underaged kid outside their local off lisience (sp?) going ' pssssst do me a favour mate? Can you buy me.....'

I hand on heart think you and your friends would have a much better time in Magaluf, where good hash is pretty easy to get of the moped kids. Getting hammered going to the ledgendary clubs and encouraging are English women to cop off with you instead of the Spainish bloke giving them the old sweet talk. I mean cheap beer, no I.D, good clubs, sun and easy women dosnt sound too bad reall guys.
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Post by Boner »

Sir Niall you mention rules and the fact we stick to them but what happens when the dealers say it's ok for you to smoke tobacco in the coffeeshop discreetly? that rule is governed by the same people who govern the no under 18's.

You only have to be 16 to drink beer in Holland as well btw in regards to everyone enchouraging them to go to Magaluf.
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Boner wrote:Sir Niall you mention rules and the fact we stick to them but what happens when the dealers say it's ok for you to smoke tobacco in the coffeeshop discreetly? that rule is governed by the same people who govern the no under 18's.
Well then thats the owner deciding to run the risk and they can assume reponsibilty for the consequences if caught. Its the right of a owner of a buisness to decide which direction his/her business takes. The owner is aware of the risks. Whereas if underaged kids go into a coffeeshop and even before being I.D'd by the budtender are caught by an inspector then the consequences are still placed on the owner. Even though they were not aware in this instance of a infaction of the laws which govern the coffeeshops is taking place.

My point is that its the owners of a business right to decide if the buisness is going to go against the law ( i.e Enron.) As they are the ones who will suffer the consequences. When people try to blag the laws of the coffeeshops then it becomes a problem in my view as the ones trying to blag it will not suffer the consequences but the owners will, and in this case the owner was not aware that the consequences will be placed on them.
You only have to be 16 to drink beer in Holland as well btw in regards to everyone enchouraging them to go to Magaluf
As you point out this is true. But its more the atomsphere and partying that is also in Magaluf is why i suggested it at least, and also because they would probably have a better time there than dealing with the frustration of having all that good weed around them but no way in which to get to it. If it was just about laying your hands on a substance ( in the point you make beer, but im going to use the example of weed.) Then they may as well stay at home and spent the money they was going on the amsterdam trip on weed back home. But i suspect they want to go for the atomsphere and to enjoy the coffeeshop scene and the unique vibe of amsterdam. Same applies to the recomendation to go to Magaluf. Sure you can get beer in Holland at the age of 16. But Magaluf has a different vibe to Holland and it is that vibe that may appeal to them more than the fact of being able to actually lay their hands on a substance.
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Post by Boner »

The owners dont care as it's the person caught smoking that gets the fine.
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