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Posted: Wed 29th Oct 2008 01:20 pm
by Toker70
Puffin13 wrote:
SourDLoveR wrote:maybe I came to the wrong site then.
I couldnt agree more. We dont want or need your childish BS here. You would fit in just fine over at channels.
ROFL i couldn't agree more

Posted: Wed 29th Oct 2008 02:06 pm
by Ash333
Boner wrote:
Puffin13 wrote:
SourDLoveR wrote:maybe I came to the wrong site then.
I couldnt agree more. We dont want or need your childish BS here. You would fit in just fine over at channels.
:lol:
lol. so true.

Posted: Wed 29th Oct 2008 03:12 pm
by courtjester
Right on.

Posted: Thu 30th Oct 2008 01:08 am
by kantharr
ok guys this is pretty much funny even if someone is talking about hard drugs and this guy should learn that we smoke weed and we dont want or need to go harder.
BUT it keeps us away from the real subject. we are talking about some more closings of coffeeshops.
So please guys, let's make this one educative or just share your opinions about it?

2 things

1) Sourd. sorry but if you want to sniff, you really need some help
2) to enforce my first thoughts, it may be the time for other countries to find another source of revenue (like coffeshops or something) instead of taxing regular people

SIP

Posted: Thu 30th Oct 2008 04:09 am
by beejun
kantharr wrote: sorry but if you want to sniff, you really need some help
you only need help if you are addict to something, i don't see the harm with people wanting to occasionaly get high on some other stuff than weed.
as long as you can control yourself, you can have good time...
i smoke weed on a daily basis, like a bit of coke at new years eve with some champagne, a lil xtc pills allways help when raving, and ketamine is a good laugh from time to time.

kantharr, r u flemish or frenchspeaking belgian?

Dutch Municipalities Plan New Campaign Against Drug Tourists

Posted: Thu 30th Oct 2008 06:07 am
by Puffin13
Dutch Municipalities Plan New Campaign Against Drug Tourists

Municipal officials in the Netherlands are taking another crack at stopping drug tourists flooding into their country to take advantage of the country's soft drugs policy.

The Dutch association for municipalities, VNG, announced Tuesday, Oct. 28 that it will host a soft drugs summit in the third week of November in Maastricht. Participants will seek ways to discourage tourists who visit the Netherlands to take advantage of its liberal drug laws. By extension, the summit also seeks to reduce drug-related crime.

The summit comes in the wake of last week's decision by the south- western Dutch towns of Roosendaal and Bergen op Zoom to gradually close their local "coffee shops" in an attempt to reduce drug-related crimes.

All Dutch cities and towns close to the German or Belgian borders are invited to the summit. After the summit, the VNG will present the cities' common position to the government.

The goal, according to VNG, is to get the government to negotiate an international soft drugs policy with Belgium and Germany.

The Netherlands effectively decriminalized soft drugs a few decades ago when it introduced a policy of "non-enforcement." Although possession and cultivation of cannabis remains technically illegal in Holland, law enforcement has systematically turned a blind eye, and the courts usually rule in favor of individual defendants.

The sale and use of so-called soft drugs, such as marijuana, is legal in designated stores, usually referred to as "coffee shops."

Maastricht suffering most from drug-related crime

Maastricht mayor Gerd Leers calls the current Dutch drugs policy "hypocritical." He says it enables drug-related crime and also increases the sale and distribution of hard drugs, such as her*in.

Maastricht is one of the Dutch cities suffering most from drug- related crime. The city is visited by more than 1.5 million drugs tourists per year and has 16 "coffee shops," 10 more than in Dutch cities of comparable size not located close to the border.

Police estimate Maastricht also has more than 100 "soft drugs supermarkets," illegal stores where one can purchase soft drugs in larger quantities than the 5 grams per person allowed under Dutch law.

Leers says police officers in his city deal with triple the amount of crime as their colleagues in the metropolitan area of The Hague.

Most of the crime in Maastricht is drug-related, and the number of drug-related murders each year is increasing, according to police officials.

German cross-border smokers favor Enschede

The town of Enschede has been particularly problematic for local authorities, because of its immediate proximity to the German border. Thousands of drug tourists, mainly from Germany, pour across the border each year for a taste of legal marijuana.

The Netherlands have considered many ways in the past to deter drug tourism, such as restricting the sale of soft drugs to Dutch nationals by demanding coffee shops ask to see passports while political pressure has led to a decline in the number of coffee shops.

The last official figures showed that the Netherlands had 740 coffee shops in 2004 compared to 1,180 in 1997. But it is unclear whether the reduction in the number of coffee shops has actually resulted in a decrease in drug consumption and drug tourism.

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Posted: Thu 30th Oct 2008 11:21 am
by doobydave
btt LOL

Visit here to discuss the pros and cons of ALL drug legalisation.
https://www.coffeeshopdirect.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6783

Posted: Thu 30th Oct 2008 01:55 pm
by freeyourmind
beejun wrote:
kantharr wrote: sorry but if you want to sniff, you really need some help
you only need help if you are addict to something, i don't see the harm with people wanting to occasionaly get high on some other stuff than weed.
as long as you can control yourself, you can have good time...
i smoke weed on a daily basis, like a bit of coke at new years eve with some champagne, a lil xtc pills allways help when raving, and ketamine is a good laugh from time to time.
totally agree with you, nothing wrong with a rave/house party on a trippy x! :) ! if you keep in mind that xtc, and coke, speed really f*cks you up when doing it heavily, and if you keep your hands off the brown stuff, there´s no problem to try occasionly other things if you wish too. just my personal view of the point. it´s up to everybody itself how to deal with it.
all in all, nothing can beat the weed! :lol:

Posted: Thu 30th Oct 2008 10:13 pm
by SourDLoveR
kanthar is right we can't legalize nor never will have coke and x legal it just blows my mind you think it would be ok as long as ur not addicted

how can you not be an addict to coke if you snort it

x is different getting hooked isn't as easy as when someone does coke

Posted: Fri 31st Oct 2008 12:00 am
by beejun
SourDLoveR wrote:kanthar is right we can't legalize nor never will have coke and x legal it just blows my mind you think it would be ok as long as ur not addicted

how can you not be an addict to coke if you snort it

x is different getting hooked isn't as easy as when someone does coke

how can you not be an addict to coke if you snort it? well, because as i said, I, and many other people with enough brain cells, enjoy to have a lil line from time to time, i ve never bought any and the last time i done it was during new years eve 2 years ago, since then never had any, as i said im clever enough not to get addicted to this shit. im addict to weed, coffee and coca cola and it's allready fucked up. if you come to my house and you offer me a line of coke, then ill say no thanx, if i'm partying/raving and you wanna giv me a line, then ill vaccum it straigh :).

i have tried most of the mainstream drugs, exept LSD. and the only one i do every day is weed!

Posted: Fri 31st Oct 2008 01:42 am
by beejun
freeyourmind wrote: and if you keep your hands off the brown stuff, there´s no problem to try occasionly other things if you wish too.
I got a lil story about that brown shit!

when i came into the uk i was 20 and couldnt speak a word of english, i managed to find a job after a few days as a street cleaner.
one day i was with a friend and we were in a park when one of his mate came over, sat down and started rolling a joint.
with my broken english , i asked him if i could have a few puff on it. but he said no coz its brown. Thinking he meant hash i told him: "man in belgium i smoked brown all the time!" , he looked surprised and handed the joint to me. i took 2 puff on it and remember thinking it tasted strange and after anover 2 or 3 puff i gave it back to him and told him his stuff taste strange. that is when he told me it was heroin. dammmmmn... after 10 minutes i was out of it, sweating like a dick head , i had to get on the bus and my tension was sooo low , this shit was well strong, lol , i never done it again after that, but i can understand why it is so easy to get hooked on this shit as it was really kinda nice lol, but fuck it is evil shit.

Posted: Fri 31st Oct 2008 03:33 am
by SourDLoveR
beejun wrote:
SourDLoveR wrote:kanthar is right we can't legalize nor never will have coke and x legal it just blows my mind you think it would be ok as long as ur not addicted

how can you not be an addict to coke if you snort it

x is different getting hooked isn't as easy as when someone does coke

how can you not be an addict to coke if you snort it? well, because as i said, I, and many other people with enough brain cells, enjoy to have a lil line from time to time, i ve never bought any and the last time i done it was during new years eve 2 years ago, since then never had any, as i said im clever enough not to get addicted to this shit. im addict to weed, coffee and coca cola and it's allready fucked up. if you come to my house and you offer me a line of coke, then ill say no thanx, if i'm partying/raving and you wanna giv me a line, then ill vaccum it straigh :).

i have tried most of the mainstream drugs, exept LSD. and the only one i do every day is weed!
coke does alot more then just kill brain cells, it makes people crackheads
I think it's enough to have marijuana legal but coke is just not what our economy needs

Posted: Fri 31st Oct 2008 10:56 am
by doobydave
Legal coke is just what our economies need.



/Bearing in mind this thread is to do with coffeshop closures.

Posted: Fri 31st Oct 2008 11:45 am
by Toker70
SourDLoveR wrote:
coke does alot more then just kill brain cells, it makes people crackheads
Sour d how exactly does coke make u a crackhead surely its crack cocaine that does that :roll:

And as DD said this is a different topic

Posted: Fri 31st Oct 2008 04:56 pm
by SourDLoveR
Toker70 wrote:
SourDLoveR wrote:
coke does alot more then just kill brain cells, it makes people crackheads
Sour d how exactly does coke make u a crackhead surely its crack cocaine that does that :roll:

And as DD said this is a different topic
Well... true but it won't ever be legal woot woot