We dont expect everyone to be happy, but Bush has lead this country into ruins IMO. This president is coming into alot of major problems that wont be solved overnight. I believe he will do his best to stop the war and bring people home, but it can not happen over night. My question to you (tokeonthat) is why are they still going to be unhappy with this new leadership?TokeOnThat wrote:I think if you asked the majority of British Armed Forces...they would still be pretty unhappy.
Congrats Obama!!!
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Yes youre right, it would be near impossible to one up Bush. There is alot of hype around Obama and I dont think anyone expects him to be the next FDR. Chances are that politically his office will be a let down. Hes going to be handed a shit sandwich and hell have to eat it. Fact of the matter is that noone knows how good or bad of a president hell be but we can only hope for an upswing in how things turn out. For many of us the past eight years have felt like lying in a hole, last night someone threw us a rope. Time to see how well we climb.Lemming wrote:Congratulations America! I guess he’s bound to be a disappointment because nobody could live up to that hype but he’s got to be better than Bush hasn’t he? Anyway, happy Obama Day!
As for our servicemen abroad it really pisses me off that many didnt get the chance to vote, they should have been the first to vote.
What is this made of?? Babies?!
Wow. This has sparked some interesting comments. And rightly so. This is truely an historic event, and has many ramifications for now, and the future.
I'm glad that Obama has won.
I thought that Mccain was a good man, almost genuine in his own way. However, he made some key errors that lost him the campaign. In my opinion, his speech on the 15th of September was a vote killer.
Choosing Palin as his running mate also proved disastourous. Too much bad stuff there and the media ripped her to pieces- a new word is born, a 'Palinism'. I'll be keeping an eye on her though.
I personally am amazed that this happened at this time in the World's history/present/near future. Three years ago, if you'd told me a Black man would be president of the USA, I'd have laughed at you, and then debated with you as to why it was not possible. I agree LeviInAtl, I didn't think the time was right. Turns out, it was one of those 'I remember where I was when I heard' moments.
Looking forward, Obama has a tough time ahead of him. He has to deal with some major issues, and the eyes of the World are on him.
His campaign was slick, and polished, and because of that, I'm yet to see the real 'colour' of the man. I hope it's good. I'll make my mind up as it happens.
Bravo. My sentiments exactly. I, for one, will judge Obama by his deeds, and the effect that they will have, rather than the colour of his skin. Unfortunately, I think that for the media it will always be a point of focus. Many decisions that he makes will have a 'race' twist to them in the press.LeviInAtl wrote:In response to a couple posts:
We young Americans have known the magnitude of the situation and are greatful to take part in the process. I also believe we understand and accept the ephemeral quality of the election. A truly once in a lifetime moment has come and gone and i hope everyone, no matter your political bias, realizes this and that we're at a turning point in America. I want Obama to do well for me, his people and his country. In 30 years i want to to say to my kids "I was there, I helped to do that. That day we made a difference." Good luck Obama i think youll need it.
As far as the 'race issue' goes, this isn't the end for America. Racial prejudice will go on black president or not. Not to down play the importance of this but i think now more than ever we need to stand up as a nation of one people and make sure we keep making progress. I dont think we can ever get rid of prejudice of many kinds but i do know we can stand up to those who wish to keep on hating and say "NO! Youre wrong. This country is better than that."
An amazing moment. An amzing night. Im still in shock i personally thought this wasnt the time for America. So glad to be proven wrong.
I'm glad that Obama has won.
I thought that Mccain was a good man, almost genuine in his own way. However, he made some key errors that lost him the campaign. In my opinion, his speech on the 15th of September was a vote killer.
Choosing Palin as his running mate also proved disastourous. Too much bad stuff there and the media ripped her to pieces- a new word is born, a 'Palinism'. I'll be keeping an eye on her though.
I personally am amazed that this happened at this time in the World's history/present/near future. Three years ago, if you'd told me a Black man would be president of the USA, I'd have laughed at you, and then debated with you as to why it was not possible. I agree LeviInAtl, I didn't think the time was right. Turns out, it was one of those 'I remember where I was when I heard' moments.
Looking forward, Obama has a tough time ahead of him. He has to deal with some major issues, and the eyes of the World are on him.
His campaign was slick, and polished, and because of that, I'm yet to see the real 'colour' of the man. I hope it's good. I'll make my mind up as it happens.
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Nothing to do with Obam being elected...i was referring to the cartoon characters we have over here for a government.cattales1960 wrote:We dont expect everyone to be happy, but Bush has lead this country into ruins IMO. This president is coming into alot of major problems that wont be solved overnight. I believe he will do his best to stop the war and bring people home, but it can not happen over night. My question to you (tokeonthat) is why are they still going to be unhappy with this new leadership?TokeOnThat wrote:I think if you asked the majority of British Armed Forces...they would still be pretty unhappy.
We are told that our troops are coming home, only then to be told more are being deployed....hopefully with Obamas thoughts on the war, we can get our butts out of there....both of our countries, and let them get on with it!
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Sorry, I don't accept blindly simplistic media-bashing as a basis for anything. If there weren't an actual race "twist," then how did Obama lose South Carolina, where 25 percent of the voters were black and 95 percent of that group voted for him? (And if you're black and decide to remain in South Carolina after seeing 84 percent of born-again whites vote for McCain, I have to ask...WHY?)rks0 wrote:I think that for the media it will always be a point of focus. Many decisions that he makes will have a 'race' twist to them in the press.
Or, how did Obama slaughter McCain 95-5 in Washington, D.C.? Maybe because of the race "twist?"
If there is a mention of race in the media, it might be because there remain pockets of this country which can't get out of the 19th century, much less the 20th.
I actually credit the media, by and large, for what has been a very accurate reflection of the importance of race in this election.
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Un-ashamed liberal here so im extremely happy Obama made it in. The democrat campaign was a better run and concise campaign than that of the Republicans. Republicans will never of course abmit that, but loosing Florida is a big blow to their party and its nothing less than what was deserved.I actually didnt have a problem with Mc'cain as much as i would of thought i would have, and he was very gracious in defeat which has again greatly improved my view of him. I think that taking Sarah Palin on board was a costly mis-take, its good for your vice-prez to have a slight idea of what politics are about. Trying to throw Joe the Plumber ( who wasnt a plumber) showed their desperation in my book.
Im sure Obama will do a good enough job, better than the previous republican who took office for sure. Was there not a quote during the election which said we're not Republican or Democrat we are Americans? I think that is extremely important now, and instead of Republicans complaining they lost an election which they was always going to loose, like Hannity, they should make an effort to work with the current prez. The people have spoken and that is it. In my view the American, after 8 years of the wrong decsion, have mae the right one. And i hope it signals a new start for the country both economicaly and in the way it is viewed by the rest of the world.
Im sure Obama will do a good enough job, better than the previous republican who took office for sure. Was there not a quote during the election which said we're not Republican or Democrat we are Americans? I think that is extremely important now, and instead of Republicans complaining they lost an election which they was always going to loose, like Hannity, they should make an effort to work with the current prez. The people have spoken and that is it. In my view the American, after 8 years of the wrong decsion, have mae the right one. And i hope it signals a new start for the country both economicaly and in the way it is viewed by the rest of the world.
even though im here in ireland, there was a great interest in the election over here, and i have to say im delighted obama made it in. when you think of it this way...the 1st 16 presidents of U.S could have bought barrack obama as a slave, so thats a turn around for the good anyway surely?..what do you guys think?
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I hope so too toke!TokeOnThat wrote:Nothing to do with Obam being elected...i was referring to the cartoon characters we have over here for a government.cattales1960 wrote:We dont expect everyone to be happy, but Bush has lead this country into ruins IMO. This president is coming into alot of major problems that wont be solved overnight. I believe he will do his best to stop the war and bring people home, but it can not happen over night. My question to you (tokeonthat) is why are they still going to be unhappy with this new leadership?TokeOnThat wrote:I think if you asked the majority of British Armed Forces...they would still be pretty unhappy.
We are told that our troops are coming home, only then to be told more are being deployed....hopefully with Obamas thoughts on the war, we can get our butts out of there....both of our countries, and let them get on with it!
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I don't think Blackwater wants to come back home. Somehow I don't think they favor Obama.
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How in the name of Christ is organizations like that not illegal?geoffk wrote:I don't think Blackwater wants to come back home. Somehow I don't think they favor Obama.
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It's a shame to see how poorly our troops are treated both overseas and when they return compared to these guys who get paid very well. We can thank Rumsfeld for bringing these guys in.Sir Niall of Essex-sire wrote:How in the name of Christ is organizations like that not illegal?geoffk wrote:I don't think Blackwater wants to come back home. Somehow I don't think they favor Obama.
yeah blackwater sucks we send a privatized army all over the world, bad enough, then we bring a privatized army with nothing to do back to the states, trained killers, bored, who are used to violence without the discipline of the army, makes me cringe.
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