Amsterdam closing 43 coffeeshops!

Maccobicco · Post by **Maccobicco** » Sun 23rd Nov 2008 07:23 am

So, why don't they close bars close to schools? Or better the streets? Children could get hit by a car. Or why don't they close the schools. If such unlogic explanations are what is coming out from educated people, I do not see any reason to keep schools...

user54321 · Post by **user54321** » Sun 23rd Nov 2008 09:04 pm

Maccobicco wrote:I do not see any reason to keep schools...

If you live in the UK, I'd have to agree with you. We're training drones, not thinkers. There was a study done fairly recently by Cambridge (or Oxford, I forget which) University on the state of the education in the UK, specifically since Labour took power. The study concluded quite clearly that it would have been "better if they did nothing" ... no shit, Sherlock! We're teaching children to obey orders, not to think freely! In keeping with the topic, what does marijuanna provoke? Thought. Put me in charge, I'll sort the fuckers out, we'll have a coffeeshop in every high school

*b-boom TSCHHH... you've been a great audience*

Vote Neldo

DC · Post by DC » Sun 23rd Nov 2008 11:52 pm

Sir Niall of Essex-sire wrote:
DC wrote:When this story first popped up it was mentioned that the distance might be 500 meters. Which would obliterate most of the coffeeshops in the centrum.
Is the not to distance future noticalbly bleak DC? In regards to coffeeshops.

I think the next year or so will be ok, in the sense that not much will happen to kill them off completely. We'll hear story after story back and forward about how's it's ok and then how's it's terrible. Then the politicians through a load of little other rules over the next couple of years will make it possible to close it down. If somebody was to come along and offer Holland and golden egg they could replace the weed taxes with, it would be gone tomorrow. Personally, I think the medical application for weed is gonna save everybody. Eventually Amsterdam will be in yer own high street, available through prescription.

Sombrero · Post by **Sombrero** » Tue 25th Nov 2008 06:52 pm

crystal · Post by **crystal** » Tue 25th Nov 2008 09:55 pm

also kids from school have to be 18 before you can come in coffeeshops
stupid rules they only want to close more and more coffeeshops

iwanitnow567 · Post by **iwanitnow567** » Fri 28th Nov 2008 12:08 am

nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not soft temple!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i remember the morning bong bowls filled with amnezia haze from this place. ahhhhhhhhh heaven. also, the budtender there new to point me to the exact shop i was looking for, and let me upstairs even when it was closed.
good times.

spassmacher2000 · Post by **spassmacher2000** » Tue 2nd Dec 2008 02:13 pm

I've heard that those coffeeshops might be able to relocate.

sh@dy · Post by **sh@dy** » Tue 2nd Dec 2008 02:20 pm

spassmacher2000 wrote:I've heard that those coffeeshops might be able to relocate.

I hope you have heard right, because I am very sure the CDA doesnt want to give the shops a fair chance, they just want to shut every shop down they can.....

NirvanaEJ · Post by **NirvanaEJ** » Tue 2nd Dec 2008 02:22 pm

spassmacher2000 wrote:I've heard that those coffeeshops might be able to relocate.

i have heard the same thing, it seems this really might be a school issue and not a coffeeshop closure excuse, i mean 43 shops is quite a lot of tax paying businesses to close.

Boner · Post by **Boner** » Tue 2nd Dec 2008 02:32 pm

NirvanaEJ wrote:
spassmacher2000 wrote:I've heard that those coffeeshops might be able to relocate.

i have heard the same thing, it seems this really might be a school issue and not a coffeeshop closure excuse, i mean 43 shops is quite a lot of tax paying businesses to close.

Where did you both hear that? as I've always been under the impression they wont be able to relocate, the images in the second post in this thread isn't entirely right either, it's just a load of images put together (Blue Velvet for example isn't even BV anymore).

This post on Channels is by a local:

FrankieELP wrote:OK, just to set a few things straight here

The Geenstijl image is just a collection of CS signs, not the ones that are closing down. A few are on the image, but there aren't 43 shop logos there... so image is just a random collection. Geenstijl might be funny and quick, their resources on this subject suck.

Luckily Job Cohen (Amsterdam's Mayor) did only 250 meters. The governmental agreement says 500 meters and we can be glad he didn't do that, as there wouldn't be a single shop left in Amsterdam then.

Also the 1012 zipcode (central station and surroundings) are not in that rule, those will probably be looked at 1 by 1 to decide what to do. Maybe a bad record in the past might 'help' deciding a bit.

And well, about organized crime, it is obvious when there is a lot of black money to be made organized crime steps in. Whether it is smuggling live chicken into china, selling fake concert tickets for an Andre Rieu concert, sell candy bars on the black market or growing and selling weed at a large scale, they don't care. If there's moeny to be made you can count on them...

Off course the average smoker will say "Hey, Peace Dude, we all love the world and aren't doing any harm by smoking a joint. And your right. The quiet smoker in a shop is not doing anything bad, it's the organizations behind it that are.

It ain't for nothing that some politicians want to look into government controlled growing, they don't want to loose the revenues on it....

The Holleeder stuff that is going on now ( http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ho ... h&aq=f&oq= )is a result of a hash deal that went wrong, not cocaine or anything like that. It's about our smoke...

Take care,
Frank

NirvanaEJ · Post by **NirvanaEJ** » Tue 2nd Dec 2008 02:53 pm

there was an article up on norml.org, that is where i heard about the relocating possibility i know normally its not allowed. i dont know what their source was.

Sir Niall of Essex-sire · Tue 2nd Dec 2008 03:26 pm

Neldo wrote:
Maccobicco wrote:I do not see any reason to keep schools...
If you live in the UK, I'd have to agree with you. We're training drones, not thinkers. There was a study done fairly recently by Cambridge (or Oxford, I forget which) University on the state of the education in the UK, specifically since Labour took power. The study concluded quite clearly that it would have been "better if they did nothing" ... no shit, Sherlock! We're teaching children to obey orders, not to think freely! In keeping with the topic, what does marijuanna provoke? Thought. Put me in charge, I'll sort the fuckers out, we'll have a coffeeshop in every high school *b-boom TSCHHH... you've been a great audience*

Vote Neldo

I think thats a bit of a unfair generalisation. I teach ( religious education ) and i actively encoruage free thinking and the challenging of authority. I would never dream of telling my kids they should belief this or that or theyll go to hell and be sodomised by a red guy with horns for eternity. I present honset facts and leave it up to them to decide. The goverment constantly says that schools are reaching their ( the goverments ) targets, but does not take into account that for some pupils acheiving a D at GCSE is a huge acheivement which could be equal to the acheviment of someone acheiving an A*. Most of the kids i teach will never reach university so the best i can hope and want for them is to enjoy their education and to learn to question how things appear to be. As well as becoming a postive member of society.

Labour has fucked the education, the introduction of league tables is an example of this. Now schools are more concerned with their position on the league table than including everyone in the education and providing a challenging and benifical presentation of the curriculum material.

Sorry about the rant.