Tilting at windmills

Ingwey Gooblebogger · Tue 9th Dec 2008 08:20 pm

I see these posts, on all the cannabis web-sites, and wonder if the posters are not simply tilting at windmills.

The quest the poster is on is one to find the original (or "real") strain X in a coffeeshop. (Substitute the strain name or type for the X).

IMHO, a quest for the original strain "X" (like a quest for "the most potent cannabis") is, at best, a futile one, for the following reasons:

A breeder creates some strain, X, and then (maybe or maybe not) keeps it going for a while. However, strains are NOT patented and also not neccessarily reproduced in the exact same way. (That is, if you let strain X die out (i.e no clones, seeds, or living strain X plants remain) and then try to recreate this strain using the same or similar paretages, the new resulting plant will NOT have the exact same DNA as the first one did. Hence you do NOT have an "original" X)

Also, two clones, from the exact same plant (exactly the same DNA), if not harvested (and/or cured) at the same time (or in the same manner) might produce cannabis with differnet cannabinoid profiles. (i.e one with more clear trichs one with more amber or more cloudy trichs, etc, will lead to different proportion of the THC, CBD, CBN, THCV, and so on). Hence, expecting consistency even within the one strain is somewhat unrealistic.

Also, since there is no trademark (or patent for the exact chemical makeup, cannibinoid profile, DNA, etc.), another breeder can call their own different strain creation the same name, whether or not the parent plants have a similar lineage to the "original" strain of the same name.

Since strain names are not patentable, different breeders can come up with the same name for differnet strains. A good eample, that I know of, is the one called "Trainwreck". Several years ago, some folks, I know in California, who bred cannabis, f*cked up, and somehow got seed in a plant that they did not want to breed. They were unsure of the male parentage (since they had pollen from many difffernt strains), so they called this unintentional cross Trainwreck. A train wreck is big mess, hence the name. Is this "Trainwreck" the same as the one, now in the Netherlands or in California? Probably not!

That's my 0.02 Euro's worth.

Good luck in your quest.

Boner · Post by **Boner** » Tue 9th Dec 2008 08:27 pm

I want some of what you're smoking.

milehigh · Post by **milehigh** » Wed 10th Dec 2008 06:49 am

Every bottle of wine tastes different too then? I'll take a hit if there is any left after boners finished.

Twitch · Post by **Twitch** » Wed 10th Dec 2008 01:17 pm

I guess if you're going to tilt at windmills Hollands the place to do it.

Adamster · Post by **Adamster** » Wed 10th Dec 2008 02:29 pm

any one ever tried tilting a sleeping cow? that some funny shiz!
try it next time you see a cow just watch out for the farmer wit the gun!

murphyscafe · Post by **murphyscafe** » Thu 11th Dec 2008 07:04 pm

Adamster wrote:any one ever tried tilting a sleeping cow? that some funny shiz!
try it next time you see a cow just watch out for the farmer wit the gun!

it only works when there sleeping!!!!

not that ive done it or anything!

cheese · Post by **cheese** » Thu 11th Dec 2008 07:35 pm

i once put a hat on a cow and woke the fucker up by drilling him pretty hard ( i was only like 13 so it wasnt that hard) next thing i know the cows are all lining up beside eachother staring right at me... as i ran away i stepped in a big pile of cow shit.... lol i guess that beats the salt pellet gun adamster was talking about.

hahah and seriously.. lets get some of whatever he is smoking!! although he does bring up very good points as to why batches differ from one visit to the next.

CHELSEA_SMOKERS_SOCIETY · Thu 11th Dec 2008 07:38 pm

cheese wrote:i once put a hat on a cow and woke the fucker up by drilling him pretty hard.....

im sorry, what!! you did what to a cow??

Boner · Post by **Boner** » Thu 11th Dec 2008 07:45 pm

CHELSEA_SMOKERS_SOCIETY wrote:
cheese wrote:i once put a hat on a cow and woke the fucker up by drilling him pretty hard.....

im sorry, what!! you did what to a cow??

I was wondering the same thing!!

Sir Niall of Essex-sire · Thu 11th Dec 2008 09:08 pm

cheese wrote:i once put a hat on a cow and woke the fucker up by drilling him pretty hard ( i was only like 13 so it wasnt that hard) next thing i know the cows are all lining up beside eachother staring right at me... as i ran away i stepped in a big pile of cow shit.... lol i guess that beats the salt pellet gun adamster was talking about.

hahah and seriously.. lets get some of whatever he is smoking!! although he does bring up very good points as to why batches differ from one visit to the next.

These country bumpkins and the way they get their kicks.

cheese · Post by **cheese** » Fri 12th Dec 2008 12:57 pm

hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahah

body checking him.. hahhaha my bad... that is pretty damn funny

haha im still laughing

Twitch · Post by **Twitch** » Fri 12th Dec 2008 12:59 pm

cheese wrote:hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahah

body checking him.. hahhaha my bad... that is pretty damn funny

haha im still laughing

You had us worried there cheese

imcalledstu · Post by **imcalledstu** » Fri 12th Dec 2008 03:32 pm

MY brother and I once went into a feild at about 2 in the morning as we wanted to go cow tipping. When I try to sneak up on a sleeping cow I must of spooked it, the whole herd starting galloping at us (which is freaky cos ive never seen a cow even walk before never mind run, they always seem to be sitting still) and we had to run like fuck. Then the barking started and flashlights where coming from the distance, we had to hide in a bush for about 45 minutes until the farmer gave up his search with the dogs! scary biccies!

Much Love.

Adamster · Post by **Adamster** » Fri 12th Dec 2008 06:28 pm

tilting a sleeping cow will make they milk go sour and since some cow sleep standing up will have a problem gettin up from its side!!
it funny too see aint fun for the farmer cause of sour milk!

Adamster · Post by **Adamster** » Fri 12th Dec 2008 06:29 pm

imcalledstu wrote:MY brother and I once went into a feild at about 2 in the morning as we wanted to go cow tipping. When I try to sneak up on a sleeping cow I must of spooked it, the whole herd starting galloping at us (which is freaky cos ive never seen a cow even walk before never mind run, they always seem to be sitting still) and we had to run like fuck. Then the barking started and flashlights where coming from the distance, we had to hide in a bush for about 45 minutes until the farmer gave up his search with the dogs! scary biccies!

Much Love.

ROTF!!