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General discussion about cannabis and coffeeshops.
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Sir Niall of Essex-sire
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Ingwey Gooblebogger wrote: However, I did not profess any such prowess. Many mnay people took trips. Indeed, everyone that I know did so, and NO one ever freaked out.
I just wonder why there are so many pussies today?
So no-one in the 70's who took acid ever freaked? I was just reading Mr Nice which describes acid freaking him out quite badly during that period. Maybe he's just a pussy.

Theres no more pussies today than back then, drugs effect people in different ways, regardless of the time period in which they were taken.


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Sir Niall of Essex-sire wrote:
Ingwey Gooblebogger wrote: However, I did not profess any such prowess. Many mnay people took trips. Indeed, everyone that I know did so, and NO one ever freaked out.
I just wonder why there are so many pussies today?
So no-one in the 70's who took acid ever freaked? I was just reading Mr Nice which describes acid freaking him out quite badly during that period. Maybe he's just a pussy.

Theres no more pussies today than back then, drugs effect people in different ways, regardless of the time period in which they were taken.

Exactly what I was trying to say !
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Maybe the acid sucked. :idea:
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me and my wife are regular smokers of hash here in ireland we were wondering were to get the good high good atmosphere at good prices in amsterdam 1st trip...............!!!!! :? :? :lol:
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bammykid wrote:me and my wife are regular smokers of hash here in ireland we were wondering were to get the good high good atmosphere at good prices in amsterdam 1st trip...............!!!!! :? :? :lol:
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Post by Ingwey Gooblebogger »

Without actually meeting them , It's hard for me to put a number on it I'm afraid. Besides making sweeping statements like that isn't my thing .
Well, since you got the decade wrong, in your earlier reply (Actually, the joke went that, "if you could remember the 60's you weren't really there"), I thought it might be fun to see what kind of answer you came up with next.

The acid in the 60's was, in general, way more powerful than the acid in the 70's. This might have lead to more people freaking out. However, the acid in the 70's, where I lived, was about 250-300 mic's strong. It certainly was NOT Owsley Acid, but it beat the hell out of any of the acid from the 90's and any you could find today (and it is not very common today)

DC, was your assertion that acid is only good if it makes you freak out?

I was NOT speaking for all people who took acid in the 70's, only my friends.

NONE of my friends freaked out, although one time, when tripping, we got into a huge rumble, and when my buddy kicked this guy's head, the sound it made did bother me. I worried for the rest of the trip that he may have killed the guy. Although, I think I would have worried about that even if I was sober.

In any event, NO grass is as powerful as acid, AND the LD50 dose of grass is humongous (to the point of being not humanly possible to consume), so that is why I find it strange when I hear of people "overdoing it" with cannabis?

That's just me. I have a reasonably strong background in toxicology (If anyone else here has reviewed as many tox reports as I have I would be quite surpised), so when I hear about people "overdoing it" on cannabis, my first thought is that the person stating this is a "Reefer Madness" style prohibitionist. As such, I usually challenge prohibitionist bullshit, head on.

I am willing to accept that I may be wrong. Maybe some people can freak out on grass?
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Ingwey Gooblebogger wrote:
Without actually meeting them , It's hard for me to put a number on it I'm afraid. Besides making sweeping statements like that isn't my thing .
Well, since you got the decade wrong, in your earlier reply (Actually, the joke went that, "if you could remember the 60's you weren't really there"), I thought it might be fun to see what kind of answer you came up with next.

The acid in the 60's was, in general, way more powerful than the acid in the 70's. This might have lead to more people freaking out. However, the acid in the 70's, where I lived, was about 250-300 mic's strong. It certainly was NOT Owsley Acid, but it beat the hell out of any of the acid from the 90's and any you could find today (and it is not very common today)

DC, was your assertion that acid is only good if it makes you freak out?

I was NOT speaking for all people who took acid in the 70's, only my friends.

NONE of my friends freaked out, although one time, when tripping, we got into a huge rumble, and when my buddy kicked this guy's head, the sound it made did bother me. I worried for the rest of the trip that he may have killed the guy. Although, I think I would have worried about that even if I was sober.

In any event, NO grass is as powerful as acid, AND the LD50 dose of grass is humongous (to the point of being not humanly possible to consume), so that is why I find it strange when I hear of people "overdoing it" with cannabis?

That's just me. I have a reasonably strong background in toxicology (If anyone else here has reviewed as many tox reports as I have I would be quite surpised), so when I hear about people "overdoing it" on cannabis, my first thought is that the person stating this is a "Reefer Madness" style prohibitionist. As such, I usually challenge prohibitionist bullshit, head on.

I am willing to accept that I may be wrong. Maybe some people can freak out on grass?

So we all agree then.
People did freak on acid and some people freak on weed .
I'm not familiar with the joke you speak of.
I know we were speaking of the 70's , hell I can hardly recall some days on past Amsterdam trips.
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Ingwey Gooblebogger wrote:DC, was your assertion that acid is only good if it makes you freak out?

I made no assertion, It was a suggestion. I'm of the belief that drugs don't freak people out, they merely highlight problems that where already there. But thinkin back and 'good' being a matter of opinion, some of the best acid I've ever had, was also the worst.
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Post by Ingwey Gooblebogger »

I always thought acid was giggle!

I mean sometimes the uncontrollable laughter was best part of the trip.

One time when we were at a buddy's cottage, we all tripped on these orange phoenix tabs and we had gone into the townsite, booze in hand. We were only 17 years old and the cops stopped us, but we were so wasted that we just laughed at them and they looked at us and simply went away.

There were about 20 of us, so maybe they were scared shitless, of these mad laughing hooligans in the woods carrying cases of beer and openly drinking beer.

Re: Freak outs --> I know that setting can play an important part of a trip. Also, we were all hooligans and deliquents, so our lives were crazy, even when sober. Maybe someone from a stable non-chaotic lifestyle who takes acid might be more liable to freak out? They simply are not used to the chaos, that we took for granted.
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There were about 20 of us, so maybe they were scared shitless, of these mad laughing hooligans in the woods carrying cases of beer and openly drinking beer.
Lol unbelievable scenes! :lol:
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Post by mryukka »

Hi all, I am stuart1976s friend - i introduced myself here if anyone is interested :)

I would like to explain a bit about my smoking and hopefully someone can offer some good advice for my trip.

I blame the quality of gear in my area but its quite hard to find any consistency nowadays. I used to smoke solid and occasionally some would come along that I would really like and I could enjoy - warm fluffy stuff that made me feel good and didnt send me into an introspective dive - the same with some skunks as well. When I find these I try to keep getting them or get enough to last me, but the way it works in my country you just cant get consistency.

So that leaves stuff that I find too crazy - speeds my thoughts up till I cant stop them spinning, makes my heart beat like its going to fly out of my chest, messes up my vision so everything goes purple and its like staring out of a letterbox at the rest of the world.. i dont enjoy that.

Anyway, what i thought would be great for this trip to Amsterdam would be to smoke some hash. Some real nice hash that would be giggly and warm and something I could really find the pace of and spend the 3 or 4 days enjoying. Its not that ive never smoked nasty strong stuff before but more that i know i dont need my mind bouncing like a twat - just a nice feel good sensation that i can crank up a little by smoking more if i wish.

So on that note it would be awesome to get some suggestions of funloving good quality hash that would make my trip go really good. I dont mind mixing different types during the trip but I am a little bit put off when its refered to as "shit hash" cos thats not what i want. I just want stuff that gives a particular buzz, in my case warm fuzzy happy thoughts and enthusiastic enjoyment for smoking some more..
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Post by SoulRider »

What sends you racing, your thoughts soaring, and what can predispose you to think inwardly more, and thus raise potential anxiety levels is any sativa based product. Pure indicas will bring you down and cause your body to relax and your mind to quiten.

beware though, strains like cheese while being partially indica, are also partiallt sativa, and that strain particular has a strong high.

Pure indica anything is really the route to go down, but there is very little pure indica around, most strains are some form of hybrid.

If you do want that rushy heady feeling, then sativa is the way to go.
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