shaken buds

[Boner]

All this shake stuff is an urban myth in my experience .

Agreed.

[toki ken]

there does seem to be a lot of confusion about this so i will try and clarify further.

the coffee shop i am talking about is the green place

down from the waag on the nieuw markt.

coffeeshop split into 2(one floor), the back sealed off as a smoking room,glass door,has a flat screen telly inside there,mirrors on upper part of walls so u can watch flat screen from different angle.very comfortable sofas lining the wall.

i dont understand what there is to misunderstand about what i wrote and saw with my own eyes.

as i said before the more expensive buds were in the tub and i was allowed to look and smell etc but not the varieties i mentioned which are 35 euro for 5g(see above post for varieties on menu in this price range)

they were pre bagged ,and after much unnecessary fumbling under the counter the bud tender would give me a 'different 5g bag' each time i asked to look at a variety in this price category.

basically the bud tender tried to sell me something which was not what i was initially shown.

he first showed me 2g baggies of the 4 varieties - jack herer looked and smelt the nicest so i asked for 5g of that , he fumbles under the counter,pulls out a 5g pre weighed bag and i instantly spot is was completely different in appearance. bait n switch.


no offence but i haven't just come down in the last shower


did the same with the other three 5g bags, to which the bud tender says;

'whats wrong? you don't like my weed?'

and i reply;

'no just cant make up my mind' .....

you see, i was ready to buy with cash in hand after reading so many great things about the place but after realising i was being ripped decided in no unpleasant terms,not to bother buying anything.


seriously ive got better things to do than lie about this ,what i do enjoy doing is giving people the benefit of my experience so people can learn form it.


been going to the dam since '98 and been very well behaved each time,so if going up to the counter and getting a drink then looking at the menu and not long after the buds n hash, to see which ones you would like to purchase, is rude/strange behaviour , than i am indeed very confused.


toki

new to the site but not to the dam

[milehigh]

All this shake stuff is an urban myth in my experience .

I am curious if your experience includes seeing a "pollinator" being run?

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

No-ones saying your new to 'dam or wrong toki, we're just saying that we had completely different experiences to you when you went there and bought buds. Thats where the confusion lies.

[SoulRider]

and unfortunately when i looked at the chocolope it was made of very small buds which looked extremely well manicured, hardly any crystal but lots inside.

That's chocolope. It's not a big bud producing plant, it's a stemmy small bud but heavy crystal plant. Not every plant grows with big buds. Shaking is pretty much an Urban Myth, at least it happens, but not really that often. I mean, in 420 I get the opposite, when they are near the end of the tub, my buds get wiped around to pick up extra shit from the tub.

Remember that all weeds are different, and you won't see massively big buds of chocolope, it's not thta kind of plant. Check out the photos of it from the seed shops and you'll see all different bud styles.

[milehigh]

Shaking is pretty much an Urban Myth, at least it happens, but not really that often.

I'll ask you the same question as I asked Moby69. Do you have experience using a pollinator? I absolutely don't mean to take anything away from you, but I don't think you are connected enough with the back door to make that statement. And I don't want to be the bearer of bad news. It is not a myth, it is a very common practice. Someday we will get together and I will take you on a little tour of shit shops including many well known and mentioned here regularly. I try to hint at whats going on here from time to time and I make every effort to enlighten the visitors I can about the facts without spouting off or pointing fingers in an Internet forum. I have much info to share on a face to face basis. My chocolope buds are huge. Are you basing your opinion on the pictures you have seen or have you grown Chocolope?

[toki ken]

i dont mean any disrespect to anyone here but why am i being addressed as if i have just been born?

seriously this is just silly, how stupid do you think i am. i am well aware that not all buds are huge etc etc and that the beloved plant grows differently from strain to strain and growing conditions etc.

i have seen chocolope many times in the grey area and the buds were not tiny.

soulrider - i have been growing on and off for years and done a few strains so i'll say no more about that.

why would any grower grow something that has very poor yields(unless grown for personal)that is going to be sold and that sale is based on a produced weight,you see, it makes no sense.

what i am aware of though is the ability to use my eyes and brain and tell everyone about what i have seen ,on this forum, but i seem to have burst a lot of bubbles for some reason .... seriously what have i got to prove by saying these things? - absolutely nothing.

this is just what i experienced.....

now katsu,www / birdy (haarlem), 420 - the bud from these places was great!!!!!! especially black widow yum yum - am i lying now????

this site is meant to be about a free exchange of information and i really don't understand why people here have taken the stance of:

'you dont know what your talking about'

'you must have been in a different coffee shop' etc

'nah that coffee shop would never ripp off' etc

jeez.....

toki

[USbongLord]

chocolope sucks..there i said it....any one wanna argue that point..bring some and change me mind...until then i will line the hamster cage with it...then again everyone has an opinion on it....all i can say is that if you like a fuzz instead of a buzz..this strains for you.....now,wheres the mk...i wanna get high...have a great weekend folks...then again,what do i know?....wait,,thats a trick question...

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

Dude mellow. Like you said its an exchange of information, people are exchanging there information with you. Its not a personal attack, if its ok for you to give information on a coffeeshop then it must be ok if some people give information on that same coffeeshop even if it conflicts with what you think. People are just asking questions man, its nothing personal, i get questioned on what i think as well. I posted a thread about my seeds for this summers grow, my oringal idea was pointed out to me as being a bit shit, another idea was suggested and ive taken it on board. It wasnt an insulting thing, it was more of a helpful thing.

We're here to help, but also keep in mind that if some people read reviews that rip a coffeeshop a bit they might get the wrong idea, if the coffeeshop dont deserve to be ripped then it might loose them buisness. Its not meant as a insult when i said i had experienced difference, its to offer up two sides of the coin, if i had a different experience to you then i will say it, just to give people who are thinking they might give it a go both sides of the argument. Nothing personal man its just my experience and what i think about it.

I would say this forums a nice forum and quite respectful in posts. Theres a lot of people with alot of grow experience ( not saying you have none ) who are willing to share their advice. Its not people saying your shit, but its always a good to listen to others, even if you have experience, you might learn something new.

Black Widow is indeed a very nice smoke, the other White Widows ive tired i havent liked, found them to harsh on the throat. Black widow i found a little smoother...

[toki ken]

Dude mellow. Like you said its an exchange of information, people are exchanging there information with you. Its not a personal attack, if its ok for you to give information on a coffeeshop then it must be ok if some people give information on that same coffeeshop even if it conflicts with what you think. People are just asking questions man, its nothing personal, i get questioned on what i think as well. I posted a thread about my seeds for this summers grow, my oringal idea was pointed out to me as being a bit shit, another idea was suggested and ive taken it on board. It wasnt an insulting thing, it was more of a helpful thing.

We're here to help, but also keep in mind that if some people read reviews that rip a coffeeshop a bit they might get the wrong idea, if the coffeeshop dont deserve to be ripped then it might loose them buisness. Its not meant as a insult when i said i had experienced difference, its to offer up two sides of the coin, if i had a different experience to you then i will say it, just to give people who are thinking they might give it a go both sides of the argument. Nothing personal man its just my experience and what i think about it.

sir nail i dont know why you said the above,i dont know where i have even given the impression that i know it all and cant be told anything,i do not suffer from delusion thankfully

I'm not denying anyone's experience of this place , i never have.i dont have a problem at all with someone telling me what happened to them while there- why would i?

i didn't take anyone's stories of the place insulting ,it's not something that i find insulting tbh,

its just a teeny weeny bit annoying when people don't think you know which c shop you are in.

i really have nothing against people giving me their side of the coin,it was because people on here had so many positive experiences with the place with great weed etc i decided to check it out.

so this is why i'm telling you about it because it was different to what people on here have experienced,that's all.



toki

[puffpuffgive]

are you from uk420 toki? thats a great forum

[toki ken]

are you from uk420 toki? thats a great forum

indeed i am , well spotted ppg.

are you form UK420 too?

toki

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

I never said you know it all toki or anything like that. Your interpretation of a post is not my problem. I have tired to explain that i dont think anyone is ragging you personally. Im done now.

Peace

[puffpuffgive]

i'm not a member toki but i've browsed a lot, thinkin of starting me own grow if I can find somewhere to do it..

[echc1]

not a myth....i saw it during last cup week.....dude was using something that looked like a basket from a chip pan......i was shocked as this was done infront of the customers in full view! ALWAYS inspect the bud you buy,i do