Andy's Life Report

[doobydave]

It doesn't make good commercial sense to grow weed that gets peeps very stoned. Far more profitable to grow strains that can be smoked and smoked than ones that you need to put out after a few puffs.

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

It doesn't make good commercial sense to grow weed that gets peeps very stoned. Far more profitable to grow strains that can be smoked and smoked than ones that you need to put out after a few puffs.

Agree, or with the better weeds, you could charge more with. Making a bit more money that way?

[Boner]

It doesn't make good commercial sense to grow weed that gets peeps very stoned. Far more profitable to grow strains that can be smoked and smoked than ones that you need to put out after a few puffs.

Agree, or with the better weeds, you could charge more with. Making a bit more money that way?

Personally I think you're better off with tried & tested classics like Jack Herrer, White Widow, NL and so on, I've tried loads of the €10+ (per gram) weeds and the majority have been shit compared to a good old classic.

[colinzeal]

I imagine it is as much about the size of a grow operation as anything else?
(clearly not the only factor but I expect it to be an important one)


A large commercial grower cannot give the same attention to individual plants as the home grower, think of it as the school class size issue
A private grower can give love and attention to each of his 'babies'.

Also the curing process is very important and as has been pointed out on here before buds sold in amsterdam rarely get time for a proper cure due to the high demand for product.
(I wonder if these coffeeshop closings could have an unforeseen positive effect of reducing the demand and increasing quality? just a thought that popped into my head now)

That is probably excellent advice about the classic strains Boner. The growers are very experienced with these strains, they are well established and i am sure the growers over the years have been able to refine their crops.

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

Personally I think you're better off with tried & tested classics like Jack Herrer, White Widow, NL and so on, I've tried loads of the €10+ (per gram) weeds and the majority have been shit compared to a good old classic.

Good point. I always find there is a strange dutch strain i score, usually in Harleem or somewhere random once me and the miss's have rode the bike to a strange town impress me the most. My most memorable example of this, and the only dutch name i can remember, was a strain called Knetter (sp?) from somewhere in Harleem.

[Twichaldinho]

Knetter (sp?) from somewhere in Harleem.

Ive had great Knetter from Birdy man. Maybe there?

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

Knetter (sp?) from somewhere in Harleem.

Ive had great Knetter from Birdy man. Maybe there?

It could very well be my friend from north of the border. My one regret of every trip to Holland is i can never remember Harleem properly.....my mind is too buzzy after the first stop in Wille Wortels.

I can just remember it being a very tasty piece of herb, and thats only because i stock up in Harleem and ended up with some for the day after. I always like stocking up in Harleem, i may of been born down south, but i look after the pennies like a Yorkshire man.

[doobydave]

I imagine it is as much about the size of a grow operation as anything else?
(clearly not the only factor but I expect it to be an important one)


A large commercial grower cannot give the same attention to individual plants as the home grower, think of it as the school class size issue Smile
A private grower can give love and attention to each of his 'babies'.

Also the curing process is very important and as has been pointed out on here before buds sold in amsterdam rarely get time for a proper cure due to the high demand for product.

Let's not get strength and quality mixed up - although 'quality' is pretty subjective anyway...

Badly grown/cured plants, whether as part of a large commercial crop or a small one, can still knock your socks off, assuming the genetics are a good match for your head.

If you are a large scale, commercial grower, you will sell more weed if it is not particularly knockout gear. This is very unfortunate for those that love the rhino.....

/btt

[colinzeal]

I imagine it is as much about the size of a grow operation as anything else?
(clearly not the only factor but I expect it to be an important one)


A large commercial grower cannot give the same attention to individual plants as the home grower, think of it as the school class size issue Smile
A private grower can give love and attention to each of his 'babies'.

Also the curing process is very important and as has been pointed out on here before buds sold in amsterdam rarely get time for a proper cure due to the high demand for product.

Let's not get strength and quality mixed up - although 'quality' is pretty subjective anyway...

Badly grown/cured plants, whether as part of a large commercial crop or a small one, can still knock your socks off, assuming the genetics are a good match for your head.

If you are a large scale, commercial grower, you will sell more weed if it is not particularly knockout gear. This is very unfortunate for those that love the rhino.....

/btt

I never get strength and quality mixed up (or at least i try not to anyway)

It is a good point that I happen to be interested in though, strength seems to be the top priority for some smokers, I on the other hand always placed the actual buzz as my top priority. That is to say that even if a strain is relatively weak I can love it for the buzz it gives me.

All the bud I can get generally requires a cure, and it is always well worth doing so.

I however have never thought about commercial growers intentionally growing weaker bud. And I hope this is not true across the entire spectrum.
From my observations of opinions and reviews US weed seems to be generally strong, and strength seems to be very important to US growers and breeders. (i am happy to be corrected here as always)
On the other hand I see US weed as being relatively expensive (certainly the top flight strains). I wonder if this is a combination of the precedents set by the US free market, the abundance of disposable income among certain parts of US society and the strict federal penalties traditionally in place. I also wonder if as a result of these premium prices the growers are obliged in some way to ensure a strong product.

Idle speculation for the most part, so I am certainly not branding my thoughts as fact, more as questions if you understand.

Looks like we've jacked Soulriders thread too
sorry if my idle speculations are irrelevant (although having typed that I realise idle speculations are probably irrelevant by nature)

[SoulRider]

Hey guys, had a busy few days here, been wild and fun.

After a very long drive across Europe, I have been left with drivers elbow!! Will post some pics later

Stopped in at Shady's as mentioned earlier, it was really good to meet up and have some very nice smoke The Cheese Haze was fantastic, in terms of effect, sadly I won't be buying it myself as it has that Hazey Sage taste that I don't really like, you know, like the flavour of Neville's Haze, Sage, Lavender etc. Very good weed though

Shady swapped out the remaining LA Con for a bit of the Cheese Haze, and he also dropped me a piece of Afghan to try, I must admit, it was pretty nice. Only thing was, when I got back to the 420, I picked up the stash that Twichaldinho had very kindly left behind for me

I don't know what was in there, but I would hazard a guess (twich you can correct me), there was a dark hash, much better quality than afghan, you could tell that by looking, and a very strong hit too, possibly Nepal? Didn't seem strong enough to be the old temple Balls, but then it could be Also looked like some King Hassan or similar soft hash in there, and another one i can't Identify. Really nice hash experience. I am even rolling snakes out of my hash

I hope I don't start smoking Hash again now

Sunday got up sometime in the afternoon and headed down to Hill St Blues for a Fruit Shake. I bought a €20 bag of Cheese - 1.9g. I was chilling in there with Ray, and chatting to a couple of guys in there, when 2 Girls from France came in. I, stoned as usual, have forgotten their names.

They were having a holiday thinking their exams had finished, but they found out they actually had an exam on Monday, I believe it was criminal law

The girls had a folder and a diary. The diary had all the details of the weeds they had bought and the folder contained many samples from those weeds. It was a fantastic collection of weeds, and we sat there for a couple of hours talking about weed I get to have really good weed conversations all the time, but it's always with males. It's rare to meet a female with as much interest in weed While we were there we smoked several spliffs.. I rolled, Cheese from HSB, Cheese Haze from Shady, and was asked to choose my favorite weeds from the list teh girls had. As I did that they rolled two strains in one spliff. First up was Silver Bubble and Super Silver Haze, Then Laughing Buddha and G13, then Mexican Haze and Northern lights. It was a heavy session (certainly more than i could take after the driving from the last few days

I got very stoned and had to head off to do some shopping, but not before I had left the details of the ACD, hopefully they'll sign up and post the travel reports

After a bit of shopping and a very small lay down (man those girls can smoke) it was off out again to Old Amsterdam. Ended up buying some more purple haze, while Ray bought some Dutch Diamonds. Good times again. I headed off later and ended up down at basjoes chilling, where I bought 1g Northern Lights. During the day I was smoking the Hashes too, very nice indeed, as well as my range of cheeses. A monster smoking weekend all round on saturday and Sunday, and further proof that stoner chicks do exist, as if I needed it

[Twichaldinho]

Are you sure it was my stash that you ware smoking mate?
I cant remember leaving any hash in the stash. There was perhaps 4 or so different nuggs in different bags. ( all contained in a Dutch Flowers, wax envelope, sealed and writen on in pen.)

I have a feeling some shennanagins has occured.

Anyhoo, was great toking down with you mate. See you next time.

[SoulRider]

It was a bag of hashes I was given, no weed at all

Hmm, will have to ask again tonight... Dutch Flowers Envelope with writing on it. Andy or SoulRider? I'll check again tonight. Was too stoned to go in there yesterday.

[Twichaldinho]

I scribbled a little smiley face over the seal so nay cunt could tamper with it .
I wrote something like, Enjoy these Andy or some other nonsence on a little roach card and slipped it inside, it was clearly visible from outside the bag.
All the baggies had roach cards with the strain name on em.

[SoulRider]

I scribbled a little smiley face over the seal so nay cunt could tamper with it

Probably why the whole bag went missing lol. I'll check up later and keep you informed.

[doobydave]

So who's hash have you been smoking?