Happy 420 everyone! I cant believe my bounty

[starcatcher]

are you telling me that you are so unbelievably arrogant that you can't admit that there's a teeny tiny possibility that you could be wrong about this?

[Ash333]

are you telling me that you are so unbelievably arrogant that you can't admit that there's a teeny tiny possibility that you could be wrong about this?

One can never be 100% sure on anything, but I understand the drugs business fairly well, and whilst some of the same supply routes may be used for opium/heroin from afghanistan, the opiates are worth a far greater amount per gram at all levels of the supply chain, and it would take a real fool to mix some opium with his hash to sell on. I don't doubt there are people who like to smoke both mixed, but commercially its just not viable.

[starcatcher]

I can't believe you caved.

[Pauli Wallnuts]

Can I put a stop to this. Milehigh is right. Opiated hash is not for sale in coffeeshops.

AFAIK this rumour started in the UK.

There were a load of people used to smoking shitty quality soapbar and the occasional bit of crappy seedy import weed was a treat.

Then along came a bit of Afghan/Charras/NTB...

These people had never smoked anything anywhere near as potent, so they were not used to the high, and the stronger levels of cannabinoids and so they came up with the (stoned logic) opiated hash idea.

never once stated it was still available to buy in cs, i havent seen any for about 6years, also i never stated that this was in the u.k, also i never stated that it was comercially a good idea, but if you read the history books(not what u read in the sun) the taliban never had a problem with production of hash but they did opium, so gettin it into pakistan through the taliban controled borders became MUCH more difficult(&if u got caught would have had your head chopped off), as i wrote in the 2nd post some money is better than no money, its no coinsidense that since the fall of the taliban opium production has exploded & it is now the worlds no1 supplier. what is a myth is that the british forces are cracking down on these farmers, dont forget that the british empire controlled thye worlds opium supply up until only 70years (approx) ago, why give up such a lucrative trade. dont you think its strange a herion,coke dealer will get 10years but a peado will be out in 6months, thats because the dealer is actually taking money out of the pocket of the crown, this is the same in the u.s when they sent in the troops to take out their own cia agent Noriega, sorry for the rant, i think its great we can disagree & on such a pointless subject, nobody could call us sheep

[Trichome_Dense]

I told you Pauli Wallnuts knows his hash, and is an asset to this site.

Pauli, thanks for the history lesson, I cross referenced what you revealed with what I know about the talibans policy on Opiates and what nots - we're on the same page there me old chum!

[Adamster]

Can I put a stop to this. Milehigh is right. Opiated hash is not for sale in coffeeshops.

AFAIK this rumour started in the UK.

There were a load of people used to smoking shitty quality soapbar and the occasional bit of crappy seedy import weed was a treat.

Then along came a bit of Afghan/Charras/NTB...

These people had never smoked anything anywhere near as potent, so they were not used to the high, and the stronger levels of cannabinoids and so they came up with the (stoned logic) opiated hash idea.

never once stated it was still available to buy in cs, i havent seen any for about 6years, also i never stated that this was in the u.k, also i never stated that it was comercially a good idea, but if you read the history books(not what u read in the sun) the taliban never had a problem with production of hash but they did opium, so gettin it into pakistan through the taliban controled borders became MUCH more difficult(&if u got caught would have had your head chopped off), as i wrote in the 2nd post some money is better than no money, its no coinsidense that since the fall of the taliban opium production has exploded & it is now the worlds no1 supplier. what is a myth is that the british forces are cracking down on these farmers, dont forget that the british empire controlled thye worlds opium supply up until only 70years (approx) ago, why give up such a lucrative trade. dont you think its strange a herion,coke dealer will get 10years but a peado will be out in 6months, thats because the dealer is actually taking money out of the pocket of the crown, this is the same in the u.s when they sent in the troops to take out their own cia agent Noriega, sorry for the rant, i think its great we can disagree & on such a pointless subject, nobody could call us sheep

you know of fort knox in the states where all the gold is? well aint full of gold anymore was replaced by heroien for a rainy day they say!
the american gouverment been in control of all heroien since the 60s till lately. Nowdays russian MOB is running all afgan heroien . that WHY russia got a BIG heroien problem and the gouverment is hiding it from the rest of the country also some parts of the country some city got over 95% of population having AIDS and heroien is so cheap (1-2$ usa a gram)tha ppl rather get high then drunk and this heroien is all over europe Denmark capital is now the CAp of street junkies!! it sad how ppl can just wast theire life on JUNK! and funding the terrorist!

[milehigh]

does no-one remember going into a cs 8-9 years ago & having 2-3 different afghan hashes, now its very rare to find more than 1. Get down to it on the leidseplein used to sell something called 'dealers afghan' this was a prime example. when smoking alot of this stuff i used to get a headache.
google it there is plenty of info about

Wait, what? Coffeeshop? opium? headache? wait, what?

never once stated it was still available to buy in cs,

[milehigh]

but if you read the history books(not what u read in the sun) the taliban never had a problem with production of hash but they did opium, so gettin it into pakistan through the taliban controled borders became MUCH more difficult(&if u got caught would have had your head chopped off), as i wrote in the 2nd post some money is better than no money, its no coinsidense that since the fall of the taliban opium production has exploded & it is now the worlds no1 supplier.

Ummm, the Russians were ousted from Afganastan in the early 90s. The Taliban were in control and not removed from power until after 9-11-01. They are now back in control of much of Afganistan. I don't understand your history lesson as it does not follow the correct time line for anything you say to make sense. So you are saying the opium farmers could not sell opium for a high price but could sell it for a low price because the Taliban controls the Paki/Afgani border. Is that correct? So the low price buyers then mixed it with hash because of the low price? Then who did they sell it too? Get Down to it? I just want to be able to tell my grand children the correct story.

[starcatcher]

[Pauli Wallnuts]

but if you read the history books(not what u read in the sun) the taliban never had a problem with production of hash but they did opium, so gettin it into pakistan through the taliban controled borders became MUCH more difficult(&if u got caught would have had your head chopped off), as i wrote in the 2nd post some money is better than no money, its no coinsidense that since the fall of the taliban opium production has exploded & it is now the worlds no1 supplier.

Ummm, the Russians were ousted from Afganastan in the early 90s. The Taliban were in control and not removed from power until after 9-11-01. They are now back in control of much of Afganistan. I don't understand your history lesson as it does not follow the correct time line for anything you say to make sense. So you are saying the opium farmers could not sell opium for a high price but could sell it for a low price because the Taliban controls the Paki/Afgani border. Is that correct? So the low price buyers then mixed it with hash because of the low price? Then who did they sell it too? Get Down to it? I just want to be able to tell my grand children the correct story.

read my 1st post, i said 8-9years ago it was available since then it hasnt been, what happened 8-9 years ago? oh yea 9/11 &the invasion. the farmers of any drug anywhere in the world are very rarely the same people who smuggle it out of the country, that is left to traffickers, if your a trafficker & a regime takes over your country which will kill u if u r caught smuggling & the very same local tribesman who use to offer safe passage were alligned with this regime would u not think twice about smuggling opium, at the very least u wouldn't do it as often so there would be more farmers with surplus opium,whats that farmer gonna do get on his donkey & personally take it 500miles across the country, or try &find someone else who will take it off his hands.so now there is 2 farmers 1 with a kilo of hash & the other with a kilo of opium, now pupils if u have a product which is ok & someone offers u £500 a kilo, but then someone comes along & says i will sell you an additive for £30(before u get excited im not talking about the whole kilo) which you could add to that & it will be worth £1000 a kilo, what would ANY businessmen in the world do. as for the version u give your grand children thats up 2 u.

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

So the taliban are/were harder on the opium trafficars? Im not critising just wondering, seems a bit too logical for a far right Islamic terrorist group. Espically considering the fact that Shia law, which they stick by, limits/prohibits all types of intoxication because it destracts the mind of Allah, which is the ultimate goal of life. To contemplate and submit yourself to Allah, hence the translation of Islam = submission.

[Pauli Wallnuts]

So the taliban are/were harder on the opium trafficars? Im not critising just wondering, seems a bit too logical for a far right Islamic terrorist group. Espically considering the fact that Shia law, which they stick by, limits/prohibits all types of intoxication because it destracts the mind of Allah, which is the ultimate goal of life. To contemplate and submit yourself to Allah, hence the translation of Islam = submission.

exactly right m8, u ask anyone from the region the taliban were against opium production. i wouldn't go as far as to call them a terrorist group though, they have never carried out an attack on foreign soil, they were right wing but if you look through all the propaganda we in the west are bombarded with, the afghan people were alot safer than they are now karzai the american is in control, wasnt it just last week that he legalised the rape of any married woman by her husband

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

Yea man i believe i read that somewhere. I take what you say about the use of the word terrorist, could be misinterpreted. I just based it on the enforcement of laws and the treatment of their community. The question you raised is of course a very interesting issue, is it a case of better the devil you know in regards to the taliban control of afganistan? Possibly a little too deep about at 12.25 at night with a freshly loaded bong in my hand.

I ambitly have no idea about anything to do with opium in hash, but i did hear about henna being found in some hashs. Be it a few years ago and i think i may of read it on channels. Has there been any recent practice of that? Or am i way off the mark?

[Pauli Wallnuts]

[quote="Sir Niall of Essex-sire"]Yea man i believe i read that somewhere. I take what you say about the use of the word terrorist, could be misinterpreted. I just based it on the enforcement of laws and the treatment of their community. The question you raised is of course a very interesting issue, is it a case of better the devil you know in regards to the taliban control of afganistan? Possibly a little too deep about at 12.25 at night with a freshly loaded bong in my hand.

I ambitly have no idea about anything to do with opium in hash, but i did hear about henna being found in some hashs. Be it a few years ago and i think i may of read it on channels. Has there been any recent practice of that? Or am i way off the mark?[/quot

enjoy your bong m8

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

enjoy your bong m8

Am i that far off the mark with the henna in hash rumbling....?

I hope your bong is packed and stash is plentiful on this saturday night, methinks you'll need it for a stay alert substance when this debate continues.....

Peace man.