Am i that far off the mark with the henna in hash rumbling....?
I hope your bong is packed and stash is plentiful on this saturday night, methinks you'll need it for a stay alert substance when this debate continues.....
Peace man.
no i heard that aswell but to the best of my knowledge ive never had it (i dont even know what henna looks like ) so i might have had it. + i dont smoke anymore in the u.k m8, only in that paradise we call mokum
If you ever have both, try this fun experiment, which may help toward another understanding. Opium is a latex, ergo, water-based. THC is a Resin...oil-based. Take an equal chunk of each with matching the viscosity, and try to homogenize them. The only way to marry the 2 would be with an emulsifier which would alter the molecular structure allowing oil and water to mix.
Perhaps someone played around with this idea at some point, because I know I enjoy the 2 in a bowl together. The problem would be, what do you sell it as? I guess legally you could only bill it as hash, but it would be some freaking expensive hash, that is, if the opium is real. Another point is someone mentioning that it could be mixed in without notice....I have to ask this person, have you ever been around opium? You couldn't hide that smell at a ratio of 1gm opium to 10 gms hash....it would still have a powerful opium smell (again, if it is real).
I agree these rumors usually have a basis in fact, but it may have been a very small fact that has grown exponentially with each telling. I wasn't there, so I cant say, but I do know my hash, and opium, a little bit anyway, and it would be a difficult, expensive process that I cant see being too profitable.
All I really know about the Afghani/Pakastani world of opium is that they are licensed to grow poppies by pharmaceutical companies, but 99.9% of them double crop...one for pharma, and the other, more profitable crop is for black market use....some being sent on to mobile heroin lab operations, and generally villages keep some back to refine their own opium to sell locally, and honestly to get high themselves.
It is definitely true that a lot of people get an upset stomach, especially if they haven't had much of it. At this point, for the last yr and a half I apply a 50mg fentanyl patch every other day, and i take 180mg of methadone a day. All of this due to a benign, yet inoperable spinal tumor and 3 herniated discs. The first week I began taking opiates for this I got the warm buzz, but it went away. When I smoke some opium, I get a little of that again.
It definitely deals a powerful punch. I have turned down every single person that has asked me for a pill or patch, even offering big money. If people want to do hard drugs, thats their thing, but I wont contribute to it. I wouldn't be able to live with myself if someone OD'd or hurt themselves or someone else. This is why I quit going to chronic pain support groups, too many used it as a pill market.
anyway, I digress... I am a live and let live guy. I really enjoy the high, but I dont have to worry about dependence or addiction like most. I wont recommend one way or the other. It is up to each to decide what they like, but no matter, do be careful and don't be alone if you choose to try
Opiate therapy is essential to my function, but when I began this thread, I was referring to having an oz of chiesel, 12 gms of superior polm and an oz of opium. which I thought was an embarrassment of riches on 420.
I don't have to smoke opium as I get plenty of high powered pain meds prescribed monthly. I do agree at times that the supposed "opium" that goes around is either not opium, or stepped on to the point of hardly being opium, all the way to being harmful if not deadly.
difference is......in shorthand, ive known this opie since birth, if not i'd never touch it. When i was in my 20's, yes i indiscriminately tried most everything, but at my ancient age, i've grown more cautious.
But Yes! The Man is Right....We're here to Talk Bud and Hash, the Oipe was just an added bonus 420 gift. Of all the things I got, The superior polm is by far my favorite. Many here know that if I could, my smoking would consist of 90%hash vs 10% weed.
The Polm is brown sugar beautiful, nice layers and glistening oils. In the post it had become a bit dry, so i humidored it, now its nice and pliable. After my second hit, many times I realize Ive sat there for about 5 minutes before it occurs to me to spark it up again...some of the best hash ive had. It has a velvet smooth inhale with a bite right at the end. The flavor and exhale is absolutely buttery, with the requisite sandalwood/spice tones with the tiniest hint of fuel oil - perfect in other words.
It is an unstuck in time and deeply focused high, which as an artist, i adore. I went to get more oil pastels today in fact. Sad part is, I only have about 8-9 gms left, so i will need to address that, perhaps i should lean on my weed a bit harder.
Sorry that the discussion drifted to this field of Poppies......poppies...poppies...poppies
well here's the context for you bro. corny show, classic speech:
PHOEBE: That's fine. Go ahead and scoff. You know, there're a lot of things that I don't believe in, but that doesn't mean they're not true.
JOEY: Such as?
PHOEBE: Like crop circles, or the Bermuda triangle, or evolution?
ROSS: Whoa, whoa, whoa. What, you don't, uh, you don't believe in evolution?
PHOEBE: Nah. Not really.
ROSS: You don't believe in evolution?
PHOEBE: I don't know, it's just, you know...monkeys, Darwin, you know, it's a, it's a nice story, I just think it's a little too easy.
ROSS: Too easy? Too...The process of every living thing on this planet evolving over millions of years from single-celled organisms, too easy?
PHOEBE: Yeah, I just don't buy it.
ROSS: Uh, excuse me. Evolution is not for you to buy, Phoebe. Evolution is scientific fact, like, like, like the air we breathe, like gravity.
PHOEBE: Ok, don't get me started on gravity.
ROSS: You uh, you don't believe in gravity?
PHOEBE: Well, it's not so much that you know, like I don't believe in it, you know, it's just...I don't know, lately I get the feeling that I'm not so much being pulled down as I am being pushed.
ROSS: How can you not believe in evolution?
PHOEBE: Just don't. Look at this funky shirt!
ROSS: Pheebs, I have studied evolution my entire adult life. Ok, I can tell you, we have collected fossils from all over the world that actually show the evolution of different species, ok? You can literally see them evolving through time.
PHOEBE: Really? You can actually see it?
ROSS: You bet. In the U.S., China, Africa, all over.
PHOEBE: See, I didn't know that.
ROSS: Well, there you go.
PHOEBE: Huh. So now, the real question is, who put those fossils there, and why?
ROSS: Ok, Pheebs. See how I'm making these little toys move? Opposable thumbs. Without evolution, how do you explain opposable thumbs?
PHOEBE: Maybe the overlords needed them to steer their spacecrafts.
ROSS: Please tell me you're joking.
PHOEBE: Look, can't we just say that you believe in something, and I don't.
ROSS: No, no, Pheebs, we can't, ok, because--
PHOEBE: What is this obsessive need you have to make everyone agree with you? No, what's that all about? I think, I think maybe it's time you put Ross under the microscope.
ROSS: Is there blood coming out of my ears?
PHOEBE: Uh-oh. It's Scary Scientist Man.
ROSS: Ok, Phoebe, this is it. In this briefcase I carry actual scientific facts. A briefcase of facts, if you will. Some of these fossils are over 200 million years old.
PHOEBE: Ok, look, before you even start, I'm not denying evolution, ok, I'm just saying that it's one of the possibilities.
ROSS: It's the only possibility, Phoebe.
PHOEBE: Ok, Ross, could you just open your mind like this much, ok? Wasn't there a time when the brightest minds in the world believed that the world was flat? And, up until like what, 50 years ago, you all thought the atom was the smallest thing, until you split it open, and this like, whole mess of crap came out. Now, are you telling me that you are so unbelievably arrogant that you can't admit that there's a teeny tiny possibility that you could be wrong about this?
ROSS: There might be, a teeny, tiny, possibility.
PHOEBE: I can't believe you caved.
ROSS: What?
PHOEBE: You just abandoned your whole belief system. I mean, before, I didn't agree with you, but at least I respected you. How, how, how are you going to go into work tomorrow? How, how are you going to face the other science guys? How, how are you going to face yourself? Oh! That was fun. So who's hungry?
After reading that - I need to see that episode again...
Starcatcher - I need the series and episode if you can mate lol classic!
Note: I too don't beleive in the theory of evolution - as it falls falt on its' face every turn... Even Darwin in his book "The Origin of the Species" readily admitted that this theory is highly un-probable... And therefore remains exactly that... a Theory (unproven)
Don't hear no1 call it the Fact of Evolution... lol
I am going to make it my task now to use the term "Oh, don't get me started on gravity." That is just too fucking perfect. I love the thought of someone who holds a dire enmity for all physical law.
The funniest thing about Phoebe's statement is that gravity actually IS pushing us down on the surface. Its the curvature of time/space created by different celestial bodies, not any magnetic pulling power of the bodies themselves that pushes us down.
One of my favorite phrases for years has been "I've given up on gravity, it has always let me down."
Thank you very much for the referencing, that was funny to read in play form.
