Tolerance Accumulation

[SoulRider]

question, do you get a whitie because of the amount of thc you injest or because you haven't been eating? This leads me to another question, are you just so high you forget to eat or dose the smoke retard your hunger responces?

you whitey because your blood sugar levels drop. Does the smoke retard your hunger responses Did you just ask that question? It does not retard hunger responses, but you do sometimes forget about them. Have you never had the munchies? That is your bodies first warning that you need to eat, or more accurately, increase your sugar levels. The second is when you start to feel a bit off. If you don't eat soon, you'll be on the floor

Whitey's more often than not occur with Indica's too, so (and this is a theory) maybe they cause more blood sugar loss due to the other active ingredients. Will try and see if I can find anything out about that...

[moby69]

It’s the buzz in between these two ends of the spectrum is where I disagree. May I reference one of your recent post about a mate of yours coming over and smoking, I think it was Algerian, weed from Centraal CS and getting a white out? Why didn’t the same thing happen to you?

Because I'm not an idiot and I put much less weed in than him.

Whitey's are not what we are talking about. Whitey's are because your blood sugar level drops. They are totally seperate to the discussion of the THC effect on your brain. This has nothing to do with it. Marijuana causes your blood sugar to drop. If you do not take in more sugar, you get a whitey. This is why you are given sugar water when you have a whitey. You can have a whitey by smoking a 0.1g spliff at lunchtime having not eaten and then going for a walk Even if you smoked 20g the night before.

There are many different components to Marijuana, and that is why you have to look at the plant holisticly rather than individually. I explain how certain compnents work on the body, but if you don't understand how the other bits work, there appear to be contradictions. Trust me, there is a lot of contradictions with Marijuana. It is both stimulant and depressant for example. I have done a shit load of research into Marijuana, and while I try to explain my views, if you guys have an interest, why don't you investigate the issue for yourselves? That way I'd have people to talk about Marijuana with, rather than explaining it

Oh and I'd be no good on a debating team, it takes me about 5 attempts before I get the explanation clear enough for people, more than enough time to give ammunition to people to tear me apart )

I've agreed with most of what you say , though I'd like to run a scenario past you .
Two peeps , one a toker one not so much .
Both have a bowl of something tasty , same size and strain.
The smoker gets nicely baked , the not so much dude gets smashed and falls asleep.
I realise its a different scenario ,but tolerence must have to do with it .

[DC]

I whitey cos I thought it'd be a good idea to have a smoke when I'm already drunk.

[SoulRider]

It’s the buzz in between these two ends of the spectrum is where I disagree. May I reference one of your recent post about a mate of yours coming over and smoking, I think it was Algerian, weed from Centraal CS and getting a white out? Why didn’t the same thing happen to you?

Because I'm not an idiot and I put much less weed in than him.

Whitey's are not what we are talking about. Whitey's are because your blood sugar level drops. They are totally seperate to the discussion of the THC effect on your brain. This has nothing to do with it. Marijuana causes your blood sugar to drop. If you do not take in more sugar, you get a whitey. This is why you are given sugar water when you have a whitey. You can have a whitey by smoking a 0.1g spliff at lunchtime having not eaten and then going for a walk Even if you smoked 20g the night before.

There are many different components to Marijuana, and that is why you have to look at the plant holisticly rather than individually. I explain how certain compnents work on the body, but if you don't understand how the other bits work, there appear to be contradictions. Trust me, there is a lot of contradictions with Marijuana. It is both stimulant and depressant for example. I have done a shit load of research into Marijuana, and while I try to explain my views, if you guys have an interest, why don't you investigate the issue for yourselves? That way I'd have people to talk about Marijuana with, rather than explaining it

Oh and I'd be no good on a debating team, it takes me about 5 attempts before I get the explanation clear enough for people, more than enough time to give ammunition to people to tear me apart )

I've agreed with most of what you say , though I'd like to run a scenario past you .
Two peeps , one a toker one not so much .
Both have a bowl of something tasty , same size and strain.
The smoker gets nicely baked , the not so much dude gets smashed and falls asleep.
I realise its a different scenario ,but tolerence must have to do with it .

If you re-read the posts on the last page about the effect of marijuana usage over time, you will understand there is no such thing as tolerance. If it does not make sense try and tell me where it falls down and I'll try and explain it differently

[moby69]

Because I'm not an idiot and I put much less weed in than him.

Whitey's are not what we are talking about. Whitey's are because your blood sugar level drops. They are totally seperate to the discussion of the THC effect on your brain. This has nothing to do with it. Marijuana causes your blood sugar to drop. If you do not take in more sugar, you get a whitey. This is why you are given sugar water when you have a whitey. You can have a whitey by smoking a 0.1g spliff at lunchtime having not eaten and then going for a walk Even if you smoked 20g the night before.

There are many different components to Marijuana, and that is why you have to look at the plant holisticly rather than individually. I explain how certain compnents work on the body, but if you don't understand how the other bits work, there appear to be contradictions. Trust me, there is a lot of contradictions with Marijuana. It is both stimulant and depressant for example. I have done a shit load of research into Marijuana, and while I try to explain my views, if you guys have an interest, why don't you investigate the issue for yourselves? That way I'd have people to talk about Marijuana with, rather than explaining it

Oh and I'd be no good on a debating team, it takes me about 5 attempts before I get the explanation clear enough for people, more than enough time to give ammunition to people to tear me apart )

I've agreed with most of what you say , though I'd like to run a scenario past you .
Two peeps , one a toker one not so much .
Both have a bowl of something tasty , same size and strain.
The smoker gets nicely baked , the not so much dude gets smashed and falls asleep.
I realise its a different scenario ,but tolerence must have to do with it .

If you re-read the posts on the last page about the effect of marijuana usage over time, you will understand there is no such thing as tolerance. If it does not make sense try and tell me where it falls down and I'll try and explain it differently

I did understand it .
If 2 peeps have never smoked weed before , Why can some people smoke more than others then ?
Tolerence must exist surely.

[SoulRider]

I've agreed with most of what you say , though I'd like to run a scenario past you .
Two peeps , one a toker one not so much .
Both have a bowl of something tasty , same size and strain.
The smoker gets nicely baked , the not so much dude gets smashed and falls asleep.
I realise its a different scenario ,but tolerence must have to do with it .

If you re-read the posts on the last page about the effect of marijuana usage over time, you will understand there is no such thing as tolerance. If it does not make sense try and tell me where it falls down and I'll try and explain it differently

I did understand it .
If 2 peeps have never smoked weed before , Why can some people smoke more than others then ?
Tolerence must exist surely.

Why do 2 people who have never drunk before be able to drink different amounts? You are trying to find exact answers in things where there are not exact answers

Basically it's to do with body constitution, how much you've eaten, drank, what mood you're in, the enviroment, there are an infinite number of variables, there are as many variables as there are differences between the two people who are smoking.

You can only ever scientifically understand the way it affects the body, what parts of the brain are triggered, hormone changes, and all the physical things. The different mental states of each person cannot be measured Some people could have more or less receptors active when they first smoke marijuana, it really is too long to try and go into..

[moby69]

So some people can tolerate more than others .
The have didfferent tolerances then ?
Phew , I must be too wrecked.lol
I reckon we may be agreed here , it's the word you don't like ain't it.
lol

[SoulRider]

So some people can tolerate more than others .
The have didfferent tolerances then ?
Phew , I must be too wrecked.lol
I reckon we may be agreed here , it's the word you don't like ain't it.
lol

Not tolerate more no. I don't like the word because the word does not apply to Marijuana. As discussed earlier, the word Tolerance depicts something that requires you to continuosly increase your dose to achieve the same effect. This is not true with marijuana.

Different people can ingest different amounts of THC. Same as different people can ingest different amounts of food. Just the same as different people can drive cars at different speeds. Do you get my point? Individuality is not tolerance.

[echc1]

i know my thoughts are random attached to a naturally short attention span ...but....tolerances vary from person to person...physically as well as mentally....it's the difference between someone who tokes loads but over say the space of a day and a youngster/newbie caning the same amount in a couple o hours....1 is nicely baked and the other is laying on the pavement puking.....i've found this many times when what i'm used to (cos i been smoking it for weeks due to its there) and friends that are totally fucked up on 1 joint of the same stash...and i feel just mellow....but just like drink a tolerance can build up....hence i'm on a detox to reset my system(plus the last crop got me so messed up i got lazy and forgot to plant the replacement crop )....this may not be true but it's my observation....dammit still 2 more months to go

[SoulRider]

you don't need to detox to reset your system, you just need to smoke less

[bundee1]

I think I get the stoner v noob scenario. Stoner has more receptors blocked so he just gets baked. Noob has all receptors open so same bowl hits him all at once and destroys him.

I do find the more I smoke the longer it takes me to get high. I wonder if people an smoke a lot give themselves the time for the weed to take effect. By this I mean smoke a bowl pause and wait for it to kick in rather than smoke bowl after bowl until that same first bowl kicks in.

Sound right?

[moby69]

I think I get the stoner v noob scenario. Stoner has more receptors blocked so he just gets baked. Noob has all receptors open so same bowl hits him all at once and destroys him.

So some would say the smoker can tolerate more .
He has a higher tolerence , no ?

[Toker70]

Tolerence does exist as with all things in life your body builds up a resistance to whatever u take,for me when i used to drink it was vodka when i stopped i was drinking 3L a day and not getting any buzz off it and i found the same with weed after 3 days of smoking nonstop it's a waste of time and money as u can't get any more stoned

[bundee1]

No because the amount of weed at which you get high would be the same. I think the rate of absorption would be slower. You don't need more weed to get high. If you smoke more, faster, you might get high quicker but you won't get higher than the next guy.

[SoulRider]

Tolerence does exist as with all things in life your body builds up a resistance to whatever u take,for me when i used to drink it was vodka when i stopped i was drinking 3L a day and not getting any buzz off it and i found the same with weed after 3 days of smoking nonstop it's a waste of time and money as u can't get any more stoned

I have provided the explanation of why tolerance does not exist according to the studies and research of Marijuana and THC effects on the brain. If you have some evidence which proves that there IS a tolerance with marijuana, please post it here rather than making a comparison with Alcohol which was explained away already in great depth on page 3 of the topic If you read page 3, you will also see why you don't get as high after you have been smoking reguarly, and it is nothing to do with tolerance, unless of course you have further information that I don't