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How many people still believe the official story?

Not me!

I think it was Fred Mertz* what dun it.

I aint got enough time in the day to try and explain how I believe 9/11 was set up. Im not saying Bush did it, but the US Govn did!!!

[quote="murphyscafe"] look at Osama, have they found him in his "cave" yet, no, because he's not in one!

agree 100% how can they find someone whos dead, imo he died before 9/11, the link between bin laden & the cia has never been disputed, so him dieing the hero of the mujahadeen & the u.s having a bad guy to point there finger at, benefits both sides. explain this how can a man who constantly needs dyalises for his fucked up kidneys (result of a failed poisoning assassination attempt by the saudi secret services) be living in a cave, where does he plug it in? donkeys arse? i think that the assassination of the 'lion of panjshir' Ahmad Shah Massoud on the 9th september 2001, can no way be seen as a coincidense, for the u.s to have a plan to invade & install their own puppet government they have to get rid of the 1man who actually has the overwhelming afghan support to run the country for the peoples benefits not u.s corporations benefits(like karzai the american) & at the time he was the only man who had the support & respect of all the different clans which made up the northern alliance, a role the u.s needed if they were to invade with such a small number of u.s troops. 1man who i think is still alive & living safely on a secret military base somewhere in the u.s is Zawahari, he always seems to pop up whenever the government/media need to reassure the public that they need to be afraid. if it can be proved the assassination of Massoud was masterminded by the u.s then the whole official story of 9/11 & everytyhing thats happened since will fall apart, imo this is the link that anyone who doesn't believe the official story should be investigating

Take your pick...









Personally, I think the butler did it.

CHELSEA_SMOKERS_SOCIETY wrote:

Pauli Wallnuts wrote:How many people still believe the official story?

i blame last nights referee.

That was horrendous. What a muppet he was.

Thats the bastards Clayman, the Halliburton corp, Rumsfeld and crew. I could see it right from the start, He was the administrations puppet master for sure but who if any one pulled his strings. I dont think I will be around long enough to see a US president in the Hague (who knows) but the world will demand a reckoning I have no doubt, this is a new time hopefully. Or we learn nothing.
A rather depressing thought though is that so many of us have a finger in the pie, just wonder where our pension funds are busy right now, whats on the end of the euro's and dollars spent ?
I think our collective wealth is powerful so with a bit of collective effort things can be influenced and indeed in many areas such as environmental issues and food safety in particular they are. Also there are more ways to put away savings and investment ethicaly, bypassing the death dealers of the planet. But you have to check carefully because the bastards are like chameleons when they smell a punter with some money.
I guess we need to get Tony Blair a ticket to the Hague as well, he certainly got suckered, but theats no defence.

Love and Peace

20 days ( plenty to do its going fast )

spidergawd wrote: I guess we need to get Tony Blair a ticket to the Hague as well, he certainly got suckered, but theats no defence.

if a bum like me can work out its a conspiracy then im sure MI5 & all the other inteligence services informing blair knew it was an inside job. after he signed up for the iraq war it was obvious he was doing it on the promise he would be invited to join a top masonic group. when he retired he was made peace envoy to the middle east for the U.N (like putting a butcher in charge of a vegeterian banquet) but instead of supposedly promoting peace he's been spending nearly all his time as a lecturer at yale university. people might think thats weird why not tour the world as a lecturer im sure he could get money lecturing anywhere, or do the job hes being paid to do, but what alot of people dont know is that skull & bones (chapter 322) hq is at yale university, nearly every single president has been a member, oh yeah & their symbol is the same one the SS used

murphyscafe wrote:
TD, ur theory bout sadams capture shows what i mean, he was NEVER hiding in a hole in that town, he was in his palace when they took him! All that was for the "justification" towards the WMD!! look at Osama, have they found him in his "cave" yet, no, because he's not in one! it doesnt to them any favors in catching him, its all over then in our eyes, and thats not what they want now is it!!

So you're saying that Saddam was playing along with the US? Pretending to being in hiding?

Did you see any of the much televised show trial of Saddam, where he done a pretty good job of humiliating the military court on a daily basis (and yeah, making a total dick of himself in the process)? You probably think this was an actor? Well it must have been, as he never mentioned anything about being planted in a cave.

Also- do you think if anyone found bin Laden, the troops would just pack up and go home like kids playing 'war'? Bin Laden is just a mouthpiece for a STATE OF MIND, one which is shared with millions of Muslims and Non-Muslims who hate the US. He could have died years ago, still the insurgents and Taliban fight on, because all they know is hatred and war. And the biggest and best recruiting tool for Al Qua'eda (both in Afghanistan and whatever country any of you guys are living in with any kind of non moderate Muslim community) would be the proof of bin Laden's death.

IMO- The thing about conspiracy theorists is they always go on about the TRUTH, about being able to prove everything, yet when their arguments get challenged, they themselves start to make up (further) bullshit, immediately losing all credibility. All on the basis of "Of course I can't prove it, THE MAN has covered everything up" Pretty fucking convenient, eh?

There are 2 facts which reassure me that 9/11 was carried out by Al Qua'eda and they are -

1. It's no secret that the US is resented and despised with a venomous hatred by a massive chunk of the non-western world. This awful tragedy is not exactly an isolated incident, there had been several attacks against the US and US military abroad by Islamic militants leading up to 11th Sept 2001.
Al Qua'eda bombed the basement of the World Trade Centre in 1999. What was the conspiracy then? NOTHING. These guys loathe America. Simple as. Same as the IRA hating British rule. Same as the Palestinians hating the Zionists and vice versa. To say it was a cover up is really underestimating the nasty shit that people do in this world and in my view, naively dangerous.

2. There is no way on earth that so many Americans working in the Civil/Secret Services could keep their mouth shut about this for so long. To plan something like this would have taken more than just a few disgruntled CIA men plotting shit on their days off FFS

Ultimately, horrible shitty things happen everyday and all for no apparent 'reason'. When something massive happens, like 9/11 or Diana dying (she didn't mean shit to me tbh), all the usual crackpots come out of the woodwork with their paranoid theories.

GET OVER IT. THIS IS PLANET EARTH, WE ARE JUST A TEMPORARY SPECIES LIKE EVERY OTHER ON THE PLANET. NO-ONE EVER SAID THAT THINGS ARE MEANT TO BE FAIR OR JUST.

We're all just lab rats in a fucking maze. Some fuck each other, most devour each other.


RANT OVER

Pauli Wallnuts wrote:

spidergawd wrote: I guess we need to get Tony Blair a ticket to the Hague as well, he certainly got suckered, but theats no defence.

if a bum like me can work out its a conspiracy then im sure MI5 & all the other inteligence services informing blair knew it was an inside job. after he signed up for the iraq war it was obvious he was doing it on the promise he would be invited to join a top masonic group. when he retired he was made peace envoy to the middle east for the U.N (like putting a butcher in charge of a vegeterian banquet) but instead of supposedly promoting peace he's been spending nearly all his time as a lecturer at yale university. people might think thats weird why not tour the world as a lecturer im sure he could get money lecturing anywhere, or do the job hes being paid to do, but what alot of people dont know is that skull & bones (chapter 322) hq is at yale university, nearly every single president has been a member, oh yeah & their symbol is the same one the SS used

Yeah it's also the symbol used by pirates. Are you saying that Himmler had a Long John Silver complex?

It's also used in Chemistry as a warning against toxicity.

Another trick of conspiracy theorists is (tenuously) linking something with multiple meanings to make it all look like some clever trick.

Emphasis on the word trick, there. Try looking up 'conjuring' as well.

TwoCanucks wrote:

Sir Niall of Essex-sire wrote:Hopefully the truth,whatever it is, will eventually come out...put all our minds at rest.

Sadly, the innocent victims who died that day are always an afterthought to conspiracy theories.

People always want to point a finger and place blame; it's a effort to heal, to come to grip with extreme events or the loss of a loved one.

Who do I blame? I blame decades of flawed American foreign relations and policy for the events of 9/11.

AMEN

scientificz, you talking shit my friend, the hatefull insurgents&taliban as u put it continue to fight because foreign invaders have taken over their country, i dont know where u r from but r u telling me if russia invaded your country u would not expect any of your countries soldiers to fight back(im thinking u might be french) i know if russia invaded the u.k i would sign up immediatly as a so called insurgant,does that make me hateful or a freedom fighter. u should not believe everything u read in the tabloid press, i suppose the vietnam war was in the name of peace, i bet u still believe Lee Harvey Oswald shot kennedy, u know what re-reading your post i dont think your french, i think u r bill o'reilly. btw get your facts right the wtc bombing was in 1993

Pauli Wallnuts wrote:scientificz, you talking shit my friend, the hatefull insurgents&taliban as u put it continue to fight because foreign invaders have taken over their country, i dont know where u r from but r u telling me if russia invaded your country u would not expect any of your countries soldiers to fight back(im thinking u might be french) i know if russia invaded the u.k i would sign up immediatly as a so called insurgant,does that make me hateful or a freedom fighter. u should not believe everything u read in the tabloid press, i suppose the vietnam war was in the name of peace, i bet u still believe Lee Harvey Oswald shot kennedy, u know what re-reading your post i dont think your french, i think u r bill o'reilly. btw get your facts right the wtc bombing was in 1993

Weak.

You know fuck all about me, chump. I don't read tabloids for a start.
I know why the Taliban is fighting the US, and hatred is a pretty massive part of it. It's strange how the Americans and brits have managed to train an army and police force in Afghanistan, do you think these are all 'freedom fighters' in waiting? Just looking out for the right time to turn the weapons against the US? What I mean by this (and I feel I must explain myself, because you appear to have a very black and white take on this) is that most Afghans don't hate the US, they hate the oppressive misogynistic regime that has slaughtered their country. And YES I do know that the Taliban have been trying to infiltrate these services.

Oh and sorry for getting the date of the first attack against the WTC wrong. Probably won't sleep tonight over that one..

OH NOES I MADE A MISTAKE ON TEH INTERNETZ IN FRONT OF SOME PARANOIOD PEDANT


PS - why the fuck are you defending the same people who routinely murdered women in football stadiums as entertainment? the same people who banned education, music etc

Scientificz wrote:

Pauli Wallnuts wrote:scientificz, you talking shit my friend, the hatefull insurgents&taliban as u put it continue to fight because foreign invaders have taken over their country, i dont know where u r from but r u telling me if russia invaded your country u would not expect any of your countries soldiers to fight back(im thinking u might be french) i know if russia invaded the u.k i would sign up immediatly as a so called insurgant,does that make me hateful or a freedom fighter. u should not believe everything u read in the tabloid press, i suppose the vietnam war was in the name of peace, i bet u still believe Lee Harvey Oswald shot kennedy, u know what re-reading your post i dont think your french, i think u r bill o'reilly. btw get your facts right the wtc bombing was in 1993

Weak.


You know fuck all about me, chump. I don't read tabloids for a start.
I know why the Taliban is fighting the US, and hatred is a pretty massive part of it. It's strange how the Americans and brits have managed to train an army and police force in Afghanistan, do you think these are all 'freedom fighters' in waiting? Just looking out for the right time to turn the weapons against the US? What I mean by this (and I feel I must explain myself, because you appear to have a very black and white take on this) is that most Afghans don't hate the US, they hate the oppressive misogynistic regime that has slaughtered their country. And YES I do know that the Taliban have been trying to infiltrate these services.

Oh and sorry for getting the date of the first attack against the WTC wrong. Probably won't sleep tonight over that one..

OH NOES I MADE A MISTAKE ON TEH INTERNETZ IN FRONT OF SOME PARANOIOD PEDANT


PS - why the fuck are you defending the same people who routinely murdered women in football stadiums as entertainment? the same people who banned education, music etc

take it easy u gonna have a heart attack

Pauli Wallnuts wrote:

Scientificz wrote:

Pauli Wallnuts wrote:scientificz, you talking shit my friend, the hatefull insurgents&taliban as u put it continue to fight because foreign invaders have taken over their country, i dont know where u r from but r u telling me if russia invaded your country u would not expect any of your countries soldiers to fight back(im thinking u might be french) i know if russia invaded the u.k i would sign up immediatly as a so called insurgant,does that make me hateful or a freedom fighter. u should not believe everything u read in the tabloid press, i suppose the vietnam war was in the name of peace, i bet u still believe Lee Harvey Oswald shot kennedy, u know what re-reading your post i dont think your french, i think u r bill o'reilly. btw get your facts right the wtc bombing was in 1993

Weak.


You know fuck all about me, chump. I don't read tabloids for a start.
I know why the Taliban is fighting the US, and hatred is a pretty massive part of it. It's strange how the Americans and brits have managed to train an army and police force in Afghanistan, do you think these are all 'freedom fighters' in waiting? Just looking out for the right time to turn the weapons against the US? What I mean by this (and I feel I must explain myself, because you appear to have a very black and white take on this) is that most Afghans don't hate the US, they hate the oppressive misogynistic regime that has slaughtered their country. And YES I do know that the Taliban have been trying to infiltrate these services.

Oh and sorry for getting the date of the first attack against the WTC wrong. Probably won't sleep tonight over that one..

OH NOES I MADE A MISTAKE ON TEH INTERNETZ IN FRONT OF SOME PARANOIOD PEDANT


PS - why the fuck are you defending the same people who routinely murdered women in football stadiums as entertainment? the same people who banned education, music etc

take it easy u gonna have a heart attack

Excellent, informed response there. Like being back at school, the old adage still counts 'if you have nothing to say, chuck an insult'

I'm not even worked up, just trolling your arse, because it's too fucking easy

Goodnight Pauline.

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