Banksie

spidergawd · Post by **spidergawd** » Fri 12th Jun 2009 05:53 pm

Take a look at this guy http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainmen ... 094839.stm I think he's great, but its so ironic that some of these graffiti/geurilla artists become institutionalised. And RICH.

doobydave · Post by **doobydave** » Fri 12th Jun 2009 08:24 pm

A lot of his stuff is ace.

Much can be found here.
http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/banksy/banksy.htm

TRANCE · Post by **TRANCE** » Fri 12th Jun 2009 08:49 pm

Banksy is probably the only graffiti artist I like, in fact, thinking about it, graffiti is an eyesore, but at least Banksy has an artistic message in some of his works. Check out his works in a book you can see in Waterstones, awesome stuff. His web site seems to be down at the moment with all his work shown on it.

badgerfist · Post by **badgerfist** » Sat 13th Jun 2009 02:22 am

i love graff and i like banksy but he is kind of the damien hurst of the street art scene. if you did a little deeper you will find better and dam is great place to start.

angry pirate · Post by **angry pirate** » Sat 13th Jun 2009 10:47 am

the dam has always been up there on the euro graff scene, DELTA being the first name to spring to mind.
i was throwing up some (IMO) beautiful "eyesores" from '86 to 98 (and again last year), but i wouldn't bother my arse trying to change anyones opinion on graff.
spent too long at the ol' art or crime debating shite back then.
for those who do like a bit of can control, google MA'CLAIM. Mad skill.
Banksy's book is class BTW. An' i thought i'd hate it.

spidergawd · Post by **spidergawd** » Sat 13th Jun 2009 02:15 pm

Yes there is graffiti which is usually on eyesore, tagging is just like male dogs going round peeing on lamp posts to me, but Graffiti/ Art is often quite brilliant especially some one like Banksie who can capture a moment with often breath-taking simplicity. I think I tend towards the Socio/political aspects of street art myself, although I cringe at some of the nakedly sectarian stuff that manifests itself during civil conflicts like that in the North of Ireland over the last 40 years or so and in many other places i imagine. However this for me is the real thing, subversive,human and very poignant http://firesidelearning.ning.com/profil ... -along-the and http://www.google.com/search?client=ope ... 8&oe=utf-8

colinzeal · Post by **colinzeal** » Fri 19th Jun 2009 02:07 am

angry pirate wrote:the dam has always been up there on the euro graff scene, DELTA being the first name to spring to mind.
i was throwing up some (IMO) beautiful "eyesores" from '86 to 98 (and again last year), but i wouldn't bother my arse trying to change anyones opinion on graff.
spent too long at the ol' art or crime debating shite back then.
for those who do like a bit of can control, google MA'CLAIM. Mad skill.
Banksy's book is class BTW. An' i thought i'd hate it.

I think the debate about graffiti hangs not only on the individuals definition of art but the fact that while graffiti can be wonderful (imo) the bulk of graffiti seen (or noticed) by the average person is little more than tagging and as such does not do anything for the aesthetics of the immediate area.

I watched a rather amusing tongue-in-cheek documentary called 'The Subconscious Art of Graffiti Removal' which while not meant to be taken entirely seriously highlights some valid points about the perceptions of what is indeed art and what is not

If you are interested in this subject I recommend this short film but please note that the exert version on YouTube doesnt work as well or make as much sense as the full version.

Amsterdam does certainly appear to be a fantastic venue for the appreciation of Graffiti.
And yes political 'tagging' wither during conflict or not does seem to have a place in both art and even more general social expression.

plantpot · Post by **plantpot** » Fri 19th Jun 2009 08:44 am

There are good examples of grafitti art in Christiana in Copenhagen, Denmark. There were also Cannabis plants growing in the streets + dealers + smokers + headshops - but no hasslers and no POLICE

But.. give me Adam any day...