[Jolly]

Visit penciled in. Thanks for the review! @HitTheNorth

[HitTheNorth]

First time here.
What struck me was the tenders clearly cared about the product. Nice seating area downstairs.

Got SG Runtz €15 burned clean and had a strong runtz taste. I enjoyed it 8/10

[Not_the_monk]

New menu for Blackstar dated 18 December 2024, submitted to coffeeshopmenus.org by Grzybciu87

https://www.coffeeshopmenus.org/cs-black-star.html

[Not_the_monk]

New menu for Blackstar dated 5 August 2024, submitted to coffeeshopmenus.org by Sheref

https://www.coffeeshopmenus.org/cs-black-star.html

[Not_the_monk]

This menu has changed a lot

New menu for Blackstar dated 22 April 2023, submitted to coffeeshopmenus.org by RealFresh187

https://coffeeshopmenus.org/Blackstar/M ... kstar.html

[AudioKush]

Menu update (14 March 2020)

[AudioKush]

Menu update (27 Dec 2019)



For more menu updates check out www.audiokushhq.com

[FlyByNite]

New menu for Black Star dated August 30, 2019. Thanks to Mat.

http://www.coffeeshopmenus.org/Blacksta ... kstar.html



Enjoy
FlyByNite

[RvanSteensel]

why do you go to dam when all you do is slag it off?

been asking myself that question lol

[deebzy75]

December, 2018:

Despite knowing better and been to town closely before already, a couple of mates brought me round as well as paying for accomodation. Good start(am I turning into a freeloader?)!
Still I will avoid town that close to christmas or even during it in the future even though it has a certain atmosphere but way too busy for my taste.
However, special prize here for most corny christmas decoration outside of this shop. Was pissing myself heavily when passing by . Haven't been in there since ages and didn't change that as I know what type of place to expect apart from being shocked.
When recovered from that trauma I should reconsider a return for some outdoor though.

why do you go to dam when all you do is slag it off?

[Jesscass]

December, 2018:

Despite knowing better and been to town closely before already, a couple of mates brought me round as well as paying for accomodation. Good start(am I turning into a freeloader?)!
Still I will avoid town that close to christmas or even during it in the future even though it has a certain atmosphere but way too busy for my taste.
However, special prize here for most corny christmas decoration outside of this shop. Was pissing myself heavily when passing by . Haven't been in there since ages and didn't change that as I know what type of place to expect apart from being shocked.
When recovered from that trauma I should reconsider a return for some outdoor though.

[RvanSteensel]

gotta love Kevin Jodrey

[macky]

Nice thread Think buddy,s on point on the skunk smell thing . As guy who was into B.C. skunk early 80,$ ,it would stink hole house when you cracked a vacuum bag
I will also say early skunk and early girl had far more smell to it then today’s strains...plus big buds a little different and the northern......

[skywalker]

Honestly, in California OG Kush started losing that Frankincence scent and unforgettable flavor starting in 2006 when a couple of small time California growers started selling S1 seeds of the OG clone. The potency and trich production was retained, but the church scent and strong taste noticeably diminished over time. There are a few OG strains remaining that remind me of pre S1 OG, but those are few and far between.

IME, the OG being sold in Mokum (S1 I suppose), although potent, is no where near as church smelling as the buds from the original OG clone.

Edit: When I was in Amsterdam last week, Dampkring had Piff Haze on the menu, and at least for me, was impressively potent-one huge bong hit put me in an extremely meditative state for 30 minutes, before the second wave kicked in and I was suddenly motivated to vigourously walk a couple of laps around Vondelpark. Couldn't really tell if it indeed smelled like the Church due to the shop's effective filtration system, nor can I really taste weed with bongs, but it was a memorable high.

Hey man - cheers for your input on this topic. Very interesting to hear the word from the horses mouth. Lord knows we've had enough debate on the topic recently it's nice to hear from someone with first-hand experience. It's especially nice to hear that there is still room for 'mom and pop'; even if they are at the top of the marketplace pricing. What is that pricing for 'craft cannabis' by the way - on average?

On the subject of 'that Frankincense' smell in Cannabis.
I have a Frankincense roller at the moment (it's an effective anxiolytic) and when taking a good whiff I'm struck by the astringent, what I'd call 'alcoholic' background odour underneath its pleasant and unique spicy and floral bouqet.

Recently I've been following the work of a Californian Nursery owner called Kevin Jodrey who is a chap that's been heavily involved in the industry for decades. He's currently embarking on a project to revive the glory of the early Skunk line, which he believes has changed fundamentally over the years; primarily due to prohibition.

He believes that a particular type of compound (Esters - alcohol at a molecular level) were bred-out of commercial cannabis in the late 80's and early 90's before todays highly effective odour control devices became readily available to growers; due to their incredibly distinctive and powerful aromas. The varietals of flower of the past that stunk out a whole house when an ounce baggie was opened in the kitchen that we just don't see anymore. Likely because anyone growing them BC (before carbon) spent time in jail. So they became less popular with growers for obvious reasons.

He believes that those powerful odour characteristics were due to these alcohols that are now missing from the genetic lexicon - and our conversation about 'the church' and Frankincense reminded me of his research and I believe the smell of 'the church' to be linked to the effects that Jodrey is describing; indeed I get the very same sensorial information from Frankincense that I remember from these older strains and sometimes still experience something very similar in very well extracted 'live-resin' BHO's - I believe due to the sheer concentration of terpenes which are themselves in the same class of compounds - non-polar solvents, essentially hydrocarbons - like gasoline.

Cannabis science is becoming mainstream, it's a double edged sword to some degree. The more we learn the more we lose to commerical gain. But it's a fascinating journey. I only hope past masters like Jodrey can retain the information, re-create the lines and bring back what's missing from todays commercial scene. Now that prohibition is starting to fade away; there's opportunity to bring back the glories of the past.
I think we all have our fingers crossed on that one.

My feeling is that the 'casual' end of the market won't care and will continue to roll onwards into mediocrity like Wine and many of the other hard-won luxury commodities of the past. Good - I care not. Let them wallow in shite. Send the good stuff to me.
To coin a popular phrase (ironically currently very popular as a hashtag on instagram among an audience that clearly don't): Those that know; Know.

Here's Jodrey on the subject:


Thanks again for your input - and if I haven't said so already: welcome to the forum

Thanks for the welcome my friend. You, along with DelekkersteNugs are a valuable asset to this forum with your vast wealth of knowledge on our fave pasttime.

As for prices on the boutique, high end of the cannabis market, they range in cost from $50-$70/3.5grams, $20/gram. So, basically, what it's always been in California if you don't have a private connect.

As for the terp profile on the top shelf weed here, there still a remains skunky element for many strains, especially for particularly well grown examples of OG.

[Nuggz]

Honestly, in California OG Kush started losing that Frankincence scent and unforgettable flavor starting in 2006 when a couple of small time California growers started selling S1 seeds of the OG clone. The potency and trich production was retained, but the church scent and strong taste noticeably diminished over time. There are a few OG strains remaining that remind me of pre S1 OG, but those are few and far between.

IME, the OG being sold in Mokum (S1 I suppose), although potent, is no where near as church smelling as the buds from the original OG clone.

Edit: When I was in Amsterdam last week, Dampkring had Piff Haze on the menu, and at least for me, was impressively potent-one huge bong hit put me in an extremely meditative state for 30 minutes, before the second wave kicked in and I was suddenly motivated to vigourously walk a couple of laps around Vondelpark. Couldn't really tell if it indeed smelled like the Church due to the shop's effective filtration system, nor can I really taste weed with bongs, but it was a memorable high.

Hey man - cheers for your input on this topic. Very interesting to hear the word from the horses mouth. Lord knows we've had enough debate on the topic recently it's nice to hear from someone with first-hand experience. It's especially nice to hear that there is still room for 'mom and pop'; even if they are at the top of the marketplace pricing. What is that pricing for 'craft cannabis' by the way - on average?

On the subject of 'that Frankincense' smell in Cannabis.
I have a Frankincense roller at the moment (it's an effective anxiolytic) and when taking a good whiff I'm struck by the astringent, what I'd call 'alcoholic' background odour underneath its pleasant and unique spicy and floral bouqet.

Recently I've been following the work of a Californian Nursery owner called Kevin Jodrey who is a chap that's been heavily involved in the industry for decades. He's currently embarking on a project to revive the glory of the early Skunk line, which he believes has changed fundamentally over the years; primarily due to prohibition.

He believes that a particular type of compound (Esters - alcohol at a molecular level) were bred-out of commercial cannabis in the late 80's and early 90's before todays highly effective odour control devices became readily available to growers; due to their incredibly distinctive and powerful aromas. The varietals of flower of the past that stunk out a whole house when an ounce baggie was opened in the kitchen that we just don't see anymore. Likely because anyone growing them BC (before carbon) spent time in jail. So they became less popular with growers for obvious reasons.

He believes that those powerful odour characteristics were due to these alcohols that are now missing from the genetic lexicon - and our conversation about 'the church' and Frankincense reminded me of his research and I believe the smell of 'the church' to be linked to the effects that Jodrey is describing; indeed I get the very same sensorial information from Frankincense that I remember from these older strains and sometimes still experience something very similar in very well extracted 'live-resin' BHO's - I believe due to the sheer concentration of terpenes which are themselves in the same class of compounds - non-polar solvents, essentially hydrocarbons - like gasoline.

Cannabis science is becoming mainstream, it's a double edged sword to some degree. The more we learn the more we lose to commerical gain. But it's a fascinating journey. I only hope past masters like Jodrey can retain the information, re-create the lines and bring back what's missing from todays commercial scene. Now that prohibition is starting to fade away; there's opportunity to bring back the glories of the past.
I think we all have our fingers crossed on that one.

My feeling is that the 'casual' end of the market won't care and will continue to roll onwards into mediocrity like Wine and many of the other hard-won luxury commodities of the past. Good - I care not. Let them wallow in shite. Send the good stuff to me.
To coin a popular phrase (ironically currently very popular as a hashtag on instagram among an audience that clearly don't): Those that know; Know.

Here's Jodrey on the subject:


Thanks again for your input - and if I haven't said so already: welcome to the forum

Excellent post bro, thanks for that.