kingbee » Thu 21st Nov 2019 04:29 pm

adamtoox wrote:
Thu 21st Nov 2019 11:06 am
The shop is small and was packed the two times when i went there, but as a vaper i got a seat next to the lonesome verdamper. I tried a lot of their menu, and everything from the Super Skunk to the critical amber was superb, good tasting, nice high and long lasting.
It sounds like you had a good time there on that Verdemper :)

Did they still have the Volcano there when you went, as "RoMoney" said they had one in June, and if so, what type of valve system is it - the solid valve system, or (more likely?) the Easy Valve system?

If so, how does it work in regards to bags and mouthpieces - do they have the option to sell you a disposable "Easy Valve" mouth piece?

Cheers!


adamtoox » Thu 21st Nov 2019 11:06 am

The shop is small and was packed the two times when i went there, but as a vaper i got a seat next to the lonesome verdamper. I tried a lot of their menu, and everything from the Super Skunk to the critical amber was audacity temp mail origin superb, good tasting, nice high and long lasting.


kingbee » Tue 19th Nov 2019 09:40 am

LN94 wrote:
Tue 19th Nov 2019 12:56 am
There's a hot batch of White Amnesia that came in today or yesterday, one of the nicest batches yet! They've been relatively poor recently but this is some great product. It's quite fresh now so if you're around go and have a look.

EDIT: Haha, just noticed that the previous comment was me complaining about the White Amnesia a few months back :lol:
That new White Amnesia sounds good, and it just goes to show the variability of quality on this product - it sounds like they have various smaller growers producing it, some good and some not so much.. :-/


LN94 » Tue 19th Nov 2019 12:56 am

There's a hot batch of White Amnesia that came in today or yesterday, one of the nicest batches yet! They've been relatively poor recently but this is some great product. It's quite fresh now so if you're around go and have a look.

EDIT: Haha, just noticed that the previous comment was me complaining about the White Amnesia a few months back :lol:


LN94 » Thu 26th Sep 2019 12:47 am

LN94 wrote:
Wed 25th Sep 2019 03:30 am
Passed by here yesterday and decided to get a gram of green and a gram of hash.

Shiva Haze (€15) - This strain came pre-packaged in a 1 gram jar, a new concept they're applying for a few of their 'high-end' weed. It was classed as a Hybrid and the budtender recommended it so I went with that. Unfortunately, the taste was rather disappointing and it didn't smoke very nicely. It was quite strong though. Furthermore, I had a bit of doubt about this pre-packaged gram (I hate it when they do that, although at least it's in a mini glass jar here) and it weighed out to 0.92. Might be an honest mistake, might not. But all in all disappointing considering the price. 4/10

Blond #1 (€9) - This is some beautiful Moroccan hash. Sweet taste. Smooth smoke. Clean stuff. Superb price. Relaxing high. 9/10
Had some of their classic White Amnesia (€10.50) too. Have had some great batches of it in the past but this particular one was pretty terrible. Lacked the usual strength and flavour it usually offers.

Dizzy Duck is way too inconsistent with their green.


LN94 » Wed 25th Sep 2019 03:30 am

Passed by here yesterday and decided to get a gram of green and a gram of hash.

Shiva Haze (€15) - This strain came pre-packaged in a 1 gram jar, a new concept they're applying for a few of their 'high-end' weed. It was classed as a Hybrid and the budtender recommended it so I went with that. Unfortunately, the taste was rather disappointing and it didn't smoke very nicely. It was quite strong though. Furthermore, I had a bit of doubt about this pre-packaged gram (I hate it when they do that, although at least it's in a mini glass jar here) and it weighed out to 0.92. Might be an honest mistake, might not. But all in all disappointing considering the price. 4/10

Blond #1 (€9) - This is some beautiful Moroccan hash. Sweet taste. Smooth smoke. Clean stuff. Superb price. Relaxing high. 9/10


RoMoney » Sun 30th Jun 2019 12:39 am

Was in here daily for the last week, great shop, with a solid selection of good weed. Smoked a lot of different strains, Black Domina, SSH, Cheese Hash, Purple Mooncake, GDP etc. all lovely stuff. They have a volcano too which is handy and I found the staff and the locals to be quite friendly/chatty, especially if you're in there more than once.


LN94 » Fri 21st Jun 2019 12:49 am

The way most coffeeshops in the Netherlands store their weed actually makes me want to cry. I don't know if it's a lack of care, laziness, a reluctance to spend or a combination of the three, but it has a devastating effect on the product. Especially weed.


Rafiki » Thu 20th Jun 2019 11:16 pm

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Marok21 » Thu 20th Jun 2019 10:31 pm

Rafiki wrote:
Thu 20th Jun 2019 05:19 pm
If you compare the Boerejongens to the Dizzy Duck you are right. Their quality is 'better'.

Then again there are so many factors that all of us are not considering, such as how the flower is being stored before being sold to the vendor. We found perlite, hairs, string from drying, plastic pieces and so on (not even going to mention pest or fungi). How many of the drug tourists actually can tell the difference between a e.g. well cured or flushed plant. How many use a microscope to take a closer look at e.g. coloring of trichomes. Some growers have multiple strains in the same growroom and harvest all plants at the same time, despite that some strains might need a week or two longer; resulting in an inferior product.

Since the topic of Eindhoven was brought up lately: Compare it with Venlo. The wietpass was being introduced in the NL, several coffeeshops forced to close and the traffic migrated to the Nobody's Place. This shop is a prime example how things turn bad. The flower has fantasy names, the queue is on the street, the prepacked 'weed' has 1.3, 0.7 or other uneven numbers. If you have a cellphone on you, they just strike you. Since you have to register, get a customer number, every strike is listed and you get banned very fast for no good reason.

Try the Dreamland in Haarlem. They just won the Jack Herer Cup for their 'Dream's Gold'. I asked the owner and he told me they MUST keep the strain a secret to protect the business; apparently they smuggled a clone from California. If you ask me it's Purple Cotton Candy. Never seen this strain anywhere in Amsterdam or surrouding.

So yeah, the Boerejongens did indeed some hard work from scratch, buying crippling coffeeshops, finding new locations, hiring a Michelin Chef and so on. Their Easter Egg was really nice, even though not my personal taste. But... it reminds us of what can go wrong in Northern America once you have this fame status. Not every dispensary takes care of the above mentioned parameters for good quality. That tiny store in Haarlem had a bud that kept us floating for 3 days. (!) BJ never achieved that.
sorry I was not clear enough... I did not mean that Boerejongens had hard work... :lol: I mean for example the owner of Toermalijn in Tilburg... since a very long period they sell some pretty clean quality weed especially in these glass jars. Like said before I don´t smoke so much weed but my mate smokes a lot and every thing he tried in these jars burnt with white ash and tasted like it should. Well they are not really cheap but much cheaper than most "Cali Weed"... ok on the web I found very rarely also not so good reviews but it´s still unbeliveable how they keep up their quality with all that demand. Well Toermalijn is known for being well conected in the cannabis scene... they also have connection to the "Homegrow Cup" for example... they know a lot of good growers for sure.

So what I meant is that it must be pretty hard for a coffeeshop like Toermalijn to offer only quality products these days. Many shops do not want to this extra effort anymore and are satisfied with the standard because the people still buy it.

With that US dispensarys style coffeeshops I meant for example Coffeeshop Sativa in Amsterdam (formerly Green Planet) which I visited on my last trip for the second time (review will follow). It is a pretty new coffeeshop and from my first visit (maybe 2 months ago) to now it changed a lot. At the first time it looked to me more like a usual tourist coffeeshop with the usual offered wares... now their menu is much bigger and with some special things on it like Jelly Hash (17€/g), Ice hash medallions (17€/g) and so on. They try to show that they are a quality shop and that they sell quality that the others don´t have. Well I can not say much about their quality and if it´s really like they say but I notice a trend that more people want to smoke "designer weed" that smokes clean and the coffeeshops will also respond to this demand... but as I said before I fear that they sell this stuff for much more money as for example "Cali Weed"...

Boerejongens were the first in Amsterdam with that dispensary style but as you said that does not mean that it is all quality... Amsterdam Genetics has a lot to do with marketing... well they sell usually really good stuff for the price... but their batches change really fast and I am not sure if all of their hashes are 100% natural. In my opinion they have simply to many coffeeshops now (8 or more?) to have constant quality... so just imagine how much weed they sell every day :shock: or how much grower have to work for them to serve that big demand.

My favorite coffeeshop for nice special moroccan hash (like their "Rifman" hash) was Tweede Kammer since many many years... since they are connected with Amsterdam Genetics and separated from the "original" Dampkring it´s not my place to go for the best hash anymore. Well I still like the place itself and their cheap hashes like their King Hassan are usually nice for the price but I miss the good old times :lol:

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I thought about it a bit more :lol: and I can only say that the batches at Tweede Kamer and Amsterdam Coffeeshop change so often... for me they are Boerejongens, too :lol: but to be honest the batches at Boerejonges was more constant like their Super Silver Haze Block which was a favorite of mine for a period.


Rafiki » Thu 20th Jun 2019 05:19 pm

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Marok21 » Thu 20th Jun 2019 04:48 pm

Rafiki wrote:
Thu 20th Jun 2019 02:57 pm
Which makes you think how the Boerejongens in Amsterdam that everyone declared as 'heroes' operates. A friend from California agrees with us on the place is overrun by tourists, that the quality isn't as persistant as many would want to believe and that the friggin stock runs out too damn fast. I mean it is the same principle as in Tilburg....
True but in the end the question is how many "high quality" connections the coffeeshop have and if the coffeeshop takes all that extra stress to offer only high quality products. Who knows really where they get that good stuff from... maybe from spain or dutch homegrower? It is not easy logistically and well as a coffeeshop owner you stand with one leg in prison so I could imagine that many coffeeshop takes the safer way for them to get that usual quality which is easier to get on the "market". Unfortunately there are not many coffeeshops left that have a real passion for their products :? and even that shops can dissapoint (maybe of the high demand?) but usually pretty rarely. Well I can only speak for hash because I smoke not much weed :mrgreen:

But on the other hand I notice that some coffeeshops try to focus more on quality now... they try to copy the US dispensarys a bit but if the quality gets really better why not... furthermore weed is very trendy atm and many people looking for special weed... and here comes the "Cali Weed" into the game :lol: they hit the hype with it exactly even if it´s no real "Cali Weed"... some people make a lot of money with that at the moment and it will get harder and harder to get good quality for normal prices :?


Rafiki » Thu 20th Jun 2019 02:57 pm

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Rafiki » Thu 20th Jun 2019 02:47 pm

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Marok21 » Thu 20th Jun 2019 01:19 pm

LN94 wrote:
Wed 19th Jun 2019 12:40 am
This used to be my favourite coffeeshop in the Netherlands, their customer service has always been second to none. However, in recent years their quality has gone down drastically. I don't know what's happened, but their weed is always either too dry, extremely leafy, lacking in taste and/or weak in strength.

Bought their gelato hash last month, was awesome and for the decent price of 9 EUR. Bought some again a few weeks later and this time the batch was simply disgusting. Unsmokable black smoke shit. Really disappointing. Same happened with White Amnesia, hugely inconsistent with the quality of their batches.

Their prices have always been fair, however, 4-5 years ago they simply offered much better stuff. Feel like they're rushing their products in order to keep up with the high demand as it's always busy there. Pity.
Sad to hear :? A big reason is for sure like u said the big demand and that it´s not really legal to grow weed for the shops... sometimes I wonder myself how some shops keep up the good quality. Like Toermalijn in Tilburg... there are so many guys from belgium and germany who buy there... the 500g shop limit must be sold there many times over the day... but overall quality is still pretty high but you hear from time to time also a bad review now...

Another point could be that Dizzy Duck was raided by the police last year or this year I think... their whole stock of weed/hash was confiscated (many kilos if I remember right). For a short time that has made many problems for sure and maybe they have not recovered yet from that.

Generally I noticed that the quality of the newschool hashes changes a lot atm. So that a batch like their gelato hash change completely I saw many times over the last year. The 24k hash from Coffeeshop Amsterdam I had in all forms :lol: sticky oily, super sticky oily, dry sift, like a usual moroccan hash :shock: also many other hashes change so much. At the begining of the year it seems like it could be a superb year for moroccan hash but it seems like they also had some problems with the weather. I heard from some hash farmers (well on IG :lol: ) that they had problems with the weather especially with all that new genetics stuff... but the beldia stuff is pretty good because they grew it at another period of the year than the newschool stuff... and the weather was simply much better when they grew the classic beldia plants. Of course, that does not apply to all farmers depending where they have their farms...