Card system and/or registering, nothing to do with tourists, the article makes that very clear, no need to read into anything.joossy wrote:"What accommodation there will be for local requirements has not yet been finalized"
"accommodation" read special allowance. "Local requirements" read amsterdam.
You say Doom Monger, I say being a realist and pragmatist.joossy wrote:oh dear Ron, your determined to be the doom monger.......
It is clear that Amsterdam is not going to stop the "weed tourist" why cant you just rejoice instead of negatively speculating all the time.
I too consider myself a realist, and I think that the reality is that the politicians realize that it's not going to happen as they wanted it to, especially in Amsterdam (as I predicted from day one if anyone cares to check).Uncle Ron wrote:I'm a realist and pragmatist. Try it some time, you might find it enlightening...
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IF the Lord Mayor of Amsterdam (and the City Council) stand firm, den Haag would have two choices - fire the lot or let them run their city.Old Timer wrote:I too consider myself a realist, and I think that the reality is that the politicians realize that it's not going to happen as they wanted it to, especially in Amsterdam (as I predicted from day one if anyone cares to check).Uncle Ron wrote:I'm a realist and pragmatist. Try it some time, you might find it enlightening...
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Now they're trying to find the right wording so that they don't appear to have been defeated.
Ron, if you had to make a guess (educated guess based on the info currently available), would you guess that the weed pass will be implemented in Amsterdam, or that it won't?
That's what I thought you'd say.Uncle Ron wrote: My guess based on available information, no weed pass, not only for Amsterdam but The Netherlands as a whole.
Old Timer wrote:That's what I thought you'd say.Uncle Ron wrote: My guess based on available information, no weed pass, not only for Amsterdam but The Netherlands as a whole.
Although I can understand why some people misinterpreted some of your comments.
Hopefully, the next thing we read about it is official written policy.
I think we've heard all possible speculations numerous times by now.
I might not like someone, but even I now when they are right. This is the ultimate point of the thread now. We don't know yet, just stop F@#$ing guessing and going on, we all speculated hard, good shit!Old Timer wrote:I think we've heard all possible speculations numerous times by now.
I admit it does look good 
but wait for it.....I can accept that you don't like me, not that you know me, but that's fine.Slip & Sal wrote: I might not like someone, but even I now when they are right.
Oh shit......Old Timer wrote:I can accept that you don't like me, not that you know me, but that's fine.Slip & Sal wrote: I might not like someone, but even I now when they are right.
At least you didn't wish me dead like you did a day or 2 ago!
and Zippy have just left the building... see yaLong and short of it is that they still want it to be only locals and no tourists but ultimately councils can decide when and how to implement. Clearly a climbdown from the government and won't be forcing anything.Wietpas Abolished
Municipality may approach coffeeshop self filling
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Municipalities may fix their policy on coffee shops and drug nuisance will determine. Writes Minister Ivo Opstelten Monday in a letter to the Lower House. For the whole country will be that visitors to coffeeshops must prove that they live in the Netherlands, but municipalities may decide when they will maintain that policy.
Opstelten confident that together with local law enforcement to make good plans to combat nuisance. "At the local level, it is best to understand what measures are effective," said Opstelten.
Municipalities can the minister himself priorities. For example, they first coffee shops close or coffee shops away from schools places before they go check coffee shops serve only people living in the Netherlands.
Tourists
It offers large cities with many tourists, like Amsterdam, still some space. The capital would such other priorities, so that tourists some time in the coffee shops welcome. Opstelten did not mention any date on which the municipalities have to enforce the rules appearance.
Visitors can coffeeshops with their identity card or residence permit, together with an extract from the municipal personal records prove that they live in the Netherlands. Incidentally, the municipalities also free to continue with the 'wietpas', which on Monday is no longer required in the south of the country.
Nuisance
The registration of customers of coffee shops in Opstelten no longer necessary because the nuisance is reduced. At the same time he wants Dutch who had difficulty with the registration and therefore their drugs bought on the street, back to the coffee shop lure.
Opstelten advises municipalities for the new year to make a plan, because the new rules will apply. He stressed that his policy is not a free ticket to do nothing. "I must see that there is tackled seriously," says Opstelten.
Strong weed
Minister Opstelten expects further "fast" with rules that are strong marijuana and hashish in coffeeshops must repel. This year is expected to no longer work, he thinks.
VVD and PvdA spoke the coalition agreed that the content of active substance in cannabis to a ceiling to be bound. Under the new rules there should be no more than 15 percent THC in cannabis sit. "Hard drugs do not belong in the coffee shop at home," said the minister.
