UKCSC (UK Cannabis Social Clubs)

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Re: UKCSC (UK Cannabis Social Clubs)

Post by OneHighMofo » Thu 29th Aug 2019 11:13 am

RoMoney wrote:
Wed 28th Aug 2019 10:07 pm
That's very interesting to hear as obviously the scene there has evolved a bit more than here.

From my point of view the benefits have been meeting other people on the island who are big into cannabis as the events have brought people out from the shadows and this has meant so many other side meetups and trips etc. Social media has helped with that aspect of it, i.e. making others like me aware that things like this were happening, but social media also brings with it all the ridiculousness which you captured quite well with your line "kids that wannabe the next rock star dealer/grower/extract artist/influencer" :). Events have also meant I can now source a lot of fair trade product (i.e. I know where my money goes - morally this feels amazing) and it's also meant I've access to way more variety. There have been other small things too which have been really cool, like getting to try so many vapes that I wouldn't have been able. Might seem like a bizarre thing, but can be damn hard to try a new vape sometimes.

I suppose selfishly I'm happy that the clubs bring seshes and I'm less about the activism part, because like Sanchez, I'm a pussy ;) Well that and the markets will legalize cannabis not me marching or signing petitions as the article below outlines.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/agr ... -1.3994192
I doubt the scenes are much different TBH. In fact I know of at least two high-profile members of the extract scene that have moved there.
Just to be clear: It's not like they're organising events that the lay-person doesn't get an invite to. Rather that it's (the 'visible' aspect of the scene) actually a relatively small bunch of people and everyone pretty much knows each other - or is connected by just a couple of others. They are all in contact with each other 'offline' and regularly socialise together. In short the CSC scene is of little use to them unless they're particularly involved in activism (not a strong point for most producers).

The other set of producers have no interest at all with what's going on online; have had their circles set-up for decades and are just not playing any part in the scene at all.

I totally see the benefit of the CSC scene for consumers - especially the larger organised events where you can make good connections and pay a fair price for a good product. And I'm very glad that it's there, and appreciative of the UKCSC's efforts. I just don't want to interact with it personally due to seeing (like Sanchez) most of them being run in a haphazard, irresponsible manner that seems more interested in and focussed on gaining followers and becoming a middle man between growers and punters than it is about local activism and raising important awareness around specific patient healthcare needs. That's exactly what the more successful CSC's have done, genuinely helping vlunerable people get acccess to meds they can't access any other way.

One little dickhead local to me was trying to get me involved until I called him out in public for sending DMT (of all fucking things) to some random off instagram in a 'club giveaway'. How that helps the Cananbis legalisation movement I have no idea. And he was absolutely stumped when I asked him if he was 100% sure he hadn't just sent the planets most powerful hallucinogenic drug to a child? If there is an action more stupid than that I don't have a name for it and certainly don't want to be associated with that level of idiocy. For the record - I have exactly the same feelings as Cannabis product giveaways: deeply irresponsible.

And I totally concurr with both you and Shaggy that it will be potential Tax revenue that changes policy not activism - although it really does play an important part in making the right noises and drumming up support from the public.



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Re: UKCSC (UK Cannabis Social Clubs)

Post by RoMoney » Thu 29th Aug 2019 10:12 pm

OneHighMofo wrote:
Thu 29th Aug 2019 11:13 am
I doubt the scenes are much different TBH. In fact I know of at least two high-profile members of the extract scene that have moved there.
Just to be clear: It's not like they're organising events that the lay-person doesn't get an invite to. Rather that it's (the 'visible' aspect of the scene) actually a relatively small bunch of people and everyone pretty much knows each other - or is connected by just a couple of others. They are all in contact with each other 'offline' and regularly socialise together. In short the CSC scene is of little use to them unless they're particularly involved in activism (not a strong point for most producers).
That's kinda what I have now from going to some of the events, a group of others that I mix with "offline" and in theory I don't need Insta anymore to maintain that. Given the legality and "green envy" it is definitely a risk if you are a grower/extractor mixing with all sorts of "unknowns", so I can see why the CSC might hold little value for them. In fact it could only bring problems in some cases.
One little dickhead local to me was trying to get me involved until I called him out in public for sending DMT (of all fucking things) to some random off instagram in a 'club giveaway'. How that helps the Cananbis legalisation movement I have no idea. And he was absolutely stumped when I asked him if he was 100% sure he hadn't just sent the planets most powerful hallucinogenic drug to a child? If there is an action more stupid than that I don't have a name for it and certainly don't want to be associated with that level of idiocy. For the record - I have exactly the same feelings as Cannabis product giveaways: deeply irresponsible.
Understandable not to want to be associated with people like that, that's a terrible thing to do, but I'm not entirely surprised.

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