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...will possibly soon be a thing of the past...

Post by CopenhagenCouple » Fri 27th Sep 2019 04:55 pm

Sadly, it looks like the fuckers in Clean Air Nederland have won and smoker-friendly bars (and all but the b&f coffeeshops) may soon be a thing of the past:

Fucking disaster in the making!


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Post by KeyMonCha » Fri 27th Sep 2019 05:57 pm

:(

...Still, this only applies to tobacco, yeah?

...we can still do the whole, 'so long as you don't flaunt it, you can still do it' thingy, right?

...Right, guys?!?!

...Don't leave me hanging here!!! :shock:

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Post by CopenhagenCouple » Fri 27th Sep 2019 06:46 pm

KeyMonCha wrote:
Fri 27th Sep 2019 05:57 pm
:(

...Still, this only applies to tobacco, yeah?

...we can still do the whole, 'so long as you don't flaunt it, you can still do it' thingy, right?

...Right, guys?!?!

...Don't leave me hanging here!!! :shock:
Remains to be seen, but it doesn't look good for the smoker-friendly establishments that are not directly CS related... Hopefully someone will soon get some proper intel and let us all know what's up!
Always know where your towel is! :wtf: :lol:

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Post by FODSmith » Fri 27th Sep 2019 08:30 pm

The article doesn't mention cannabis, and I suspect that it won't apply for the same reason that Haarlem failed in its bid to ban smoking cannabis in public: the court decided that you can't ban something that's already technically illegal. Paradoxically, it won't be possible to ban it from coffeeshops unless it's actually legalised.

Or at least I'm hoping that this logic will save the coffeeshop culture. Though I can't say I'm overly optimistic.
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Post by RoMoney » Fri 27th Sep 2019 09:35 pm

When I was in The Hague during the summer, some of the locals in Dizzy Duck mentioned that it was going to be phase out by 2022 and there would be no smoking inside then. Seems its coming sooner.

Interested to see if it's just tobacco or also pure, I think either way it will lead to a major change in the whole Coffeeshop scene. Will they adapt and have "beer garden" type places with heaters, that's what happened here in bars when the smoking ban came in or maybe we will finally see a vape lounge!

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Post by Sanchez_ » Tue 15th Oct 2019 09:58 pm

Any update on this? I've just seen a post by CS Relax on IG stating that the legislation is from today for the hospitality industry also including coffeeshops?!
They've included a link to sign a petition against it.
Here is the link if you wish to put your signature against this:

https://rokenincoffeeshops.petities.nl/?locale=nl

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Post by Hashsmoker » Fri 18th Oct 2019 03:58 pm

It seems to be that smoking area's have to vanish in smoke - read totally close/disappear - in all horeca (bar cafe shishalounge disco, hotels) including COFFEESHOPS starting april 2020.

From that date on the government starts to give a fine - first time 600 and climbing - 4th cost the owner 4500 euro.

https://nos.nl/artikel/2306676-verbod-o ... haafd.html

It's hard to say what coffeeshopowners will do - perhaps some of them will still permit smoking in a coffeeshop.
But I expect a big part of the coffeeshops bars and pubs to become totally smoke free.

Yeah, what to say..party-poopers..
I'm going to visit Amsterdam a few times more coming months.
I think the government means serious business.

Time for the good news, if any :mrgreen:
This closing of smoke area's is about tabacco, not weed.
So smoking pure, vaporiser and smoking with herbs still should be possible.
Who knows the dog bites himself in the tail or something.

https://www.duic.nl/horeca/verbod-rookr ... -april-in/
"Of course, a lot of people also smoke in coffee shops. There too, the ban on smoking areas will be enforced. However, it is a ban on tobacco. The coffee shops in Utrecht must now consider whether they will only be a buy and fly location or whether they will ban tobacco smoking.

Coffeeshop Hii / Lo on the Croeselaan explains: “Weed can also be smoked pure, or with tabac replacements or evaporated. In the coming period we will investigate how we want to deal with the ban."

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Re: ...will possibly soon be a thing of the past...

Post by kingbee » Sat 26th Oct 2019 05:34 am

I had thought tobacco was banned from being smoked in coffeeshops and public bars since 2008, apart from in specially-ventilated smoking areas, whereas a lot of places outside the Dam, they have not all been sticking to this & even have cigarette machines in the CS.

As a non-tobacco smoker myself & I hate people smoking it around me, especially in closed spaces, I for one look forward to and welcome the day when coffeeshops are "vape only", that would be great (for me)! -And no nicotine vaping either, as the chemicals they use in those vape cartridges is very harmful regarding microparticulate damage to the lungs. Plus a smoking ban in the Netherlands will stop clothes from stinking of smoke, both tobacco and cannabis, which I prefer to avoid too, for stealth reasons.

In the meantime, just smoking pure cannabis in the 'shops would be a big improvement over the tobacco-being-allowed in the ventilated spaces, as the ventilation in those areas is often ineffective and very poor anyway, even if it "looks" sophisticated, the rooms are absolutely full of tobacco smoke currently..

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