Palin 2012 - Abandon all hope of change

[Pauli Wallnuts]

that said if this country is stupid enough to let an unqualified moronic airhead like palin into office or elects cheyney or romney...i'm crossing the rio grand into mexico

good luck with that, remember walls are for keeping people in, just as much as they are keeping people out, if enough people started leaving that it started to effect the wealth of the country, that border will be closed quicker than the soviets closed east berlin, not that i think thats gonna happen any time soon

[cantona7]

that said if this country is stupid enough to let an unqualified moronic airhead like palin into office or elects cheyney or romney...i'm crossing the rio grand into mexico

good luck with that, remember walls are for keeping people in, just as much as they are keeping people out, if enough people started leaving that it started to effect the wealth of the country, that border will be closed quicker than the soviets closed east berlin, not that i think thats gonna happen any time soon

i'll pull a john rambo. they dont expect people running into mexico.

[Stanky Danky]

There may be hope for the GOP after all.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35498037/ns/politics

I don't identify with any political party I look at the individual and his stance on important issues. Of all the candidates from the last election Ron Paul was the one I identified with the most. It's unfortunate that ignorant ass neo-cons have taken over the Republican party and wanted John McCain over Ron Paul. I think a big part of the problem is that too many right wingers are mindless slaves to whatever Fox Noise feeds them and they treated Paul's candidacy as a joke while praising Romney and McCain. It seems the conservatives pulled their heads out of their asses this time around and gave Paul this straw poll win. I'm a bit of a conspiracy nut so what I'm about to say might make some of you want to award me a tin foil hat. If Ron Paul does find his way into the White House in 2012 and decides to abolish the Fed he might end up the next president to be assasinated. I know most of are thinking why would abolishing the Fed get him killed? Well, I'm of the opinion that is what got Lincoln, and Kennedy killed, and why there was a failed assasination attempt on Andrew Jackson. All three of these presidents have one thing in common, they messed with the money supply. This theory seems like it has become much more widely noticed now that the internet has made information so easily accessible. I found a really good youtube video that lays down a nice timeline with facts and quotes that makes this theory easily understandable. There are tons of other sites on the internet that explain this theory, but I think this video gives it to you in a nice condensed form so you don't have to spend hours on the internet researching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjLJ8UKYDqs

[Marco]

i don't know why everyone in america are attacking obama. hes in month 13 of a 48 month term. needs to be given a chance. the conservatives are being obnoxious. at one of their "tea partys" they called for a democratic senator from my state to be hung.

that said if this country is stupid enough to let an unqualified moronic airhead like palin into office or elects cheyney or romney...i'm crossing the rio grand into mexico, or flying to europe and never leaving. 8 yeafrs of the bush admin was to much i don't think i could stomach palin or cheyney!! if they elect a qualified open minded republican thats diff. but besides ron paul(republican..or libertarian?) i don't think any exist that don't have a personal agenda or aren't crazy bastards.

I am not attacking Obama. you will not find a bigger supporter of him than me. However, on many levels I am very disappointed in him as a leader. He has shown little skill in managing the political aspect of his job, especially as it relates to managing his own political party. This is a letdown since he was so good at these things during the campaign.

The party is also to blame, only the Democrats could fail so miserably with a super-majority in the Senate.

[ed the head]

i don't know why everyone in america are attacking obama. hes in month 13 of a 48 month term. needs to be given a chance. the conservatives are being obnoxious. at one of their "tea partys" they called for a democratic senator from my state to be hung.

that said if this country is stupid enough to let an unqualified moronic airhead like palin into office or elects cheyney or romney...i'm crossing the rio grand into mexico, or flying to europe and never leaving. 8 yeafrs of the bush admin was to much i don't think i could stomach palin or cheyney!! if they elect a qualified open minded republican thats diff. but besides ron paul(republican..or libertarian?) i don't think any exist that don't have a personal agenda or aren't crazy bastards.

It is only elements of the right wing whipping up ignorant people with predjudices

[treetop]

Obama was always going to be a let down to some extent. His marketing was a triumph of style over substance. We all knew that and were happy to vote for him/support him anyway as the alternative was McSame.
Having said that considering he has an overwhelming mandate from the American people he should be allowed to go about his business.

Wish people would realise that certain 'news' networks are nothing more than the TV equivilant of those right wing crackpot radio shows that are so popular in the states. They are entertainment. Nothing more no matter what they call themselves.

[DazedandConfusedinOR]

I can sum up what Americans think of Obama in one word:

NObama!!!

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

I can sum up what Americans think of Obama in one word:

NObama!!!

Really?

I would urge caution on polls carried out now, people register protest votes in polls. Polls' are dependable on so many factors it's pointless carrying them out until just the before the election. People may be pissed off with Obama, but would they welcome the Republicans back?

I've been under the impression that the polls in America show hugely varied levels of support. I wouldn't be surprised if he goes for the full 8.

[DazedandConfusedinOR]

Here's the problem with Obama: American's tend to blame the party in power and right now the economy is shit. Sure, to a certain extent you can blame the previous administration, but Obama is in office now and like it or not it's his responsibility to fix what's wrong.

A lot of Americans are against Obamacare. Too expensive. Obama expended too much political capital trying to force through his healthcare bill instead of focusing on the most pressing matter to the majority of Americans: the economy. Millions of jobs have been lost and none of them are coming back. Obama hasn't created one stinking job. This was one of his major campaign platforms as well; creating jobs. He's failed.

However, he has managed to pass a ridiculous $800 billion stimulus bill, which has done little to help the economy. The focus of the stimulus bill should have been creating jobs. The majority of new jobs in America are created by small business. He should be focusing on providing loans to small business instead of bailing out giants like AIG and the big banks.

Watch what happens during mid-term elections. We've already had a preview in the election of Scott Brown in Massachusetts. As far as the Democrats are concerned, the worst is yet to come. While some may argue that it's too early to draw conclusions, it's clear that many Americans are extremely wary of Obama's ability to govern this country effectively.

I'm not a fan of McCain, Palin, or Cheney. I would love to see Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal throw his hat in the ring in 2012. The upcoming year will be crucial for the Democrats. It's make or break time.

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

Yea i think it is make or break for them, they need to imo stop with this bi-partianship 'cos the Republicans have stopped all the progressive changes.

The thing is, i know he's in Office. But he has got to undo 8 years of Republican administration, they were the ones in power and set the ball rolling for the Financial situation. I think it's a bit soon to be judging Obama, and if the mid-terms swing on that alone it would seem a bit of knee jerk reaction.

I was under the impression that the Stimulus Bill did actually create jobs and stablize things, tbh Economic issues aren't my blessing in life. But i think that it would take a huge amount of investment to undo 8 years of bad management of the Financial Sector.

Loosing that seat was a huge disappointment i'm sure, hopefully from a Democrat POV they use it as a point to stop all this nice approach and start kicking arse. If you get voted out 'cos people don't like your policies thats fair enough, if you get voted out because your opponents never let you have a chance and you took it, that's a wasted opportunity.

[ed the head]

I can sum up what Americans think of Obama in one word:

NObama!!!

Not this American
More Obama
to hell with the congress and Supreme Court

[Stanky Danky]

Here's a collection of clips of Fox Noise discrediting Ron Paul's straw poll win putting their infamous spin on the event. Seems they have a hard time accepting Paul winning a conservative straw poll. Can't imagine how much they're going to try to discredit him when 2012 rolls around and he is a front runner for the nomination. Doesn't look like Palin faired to well with only 7% of the votes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeCkZyx8 ... popt00us15

[treetop]

n/t

[Stanky Danky]

Ron Paul owns Stephen Baldwin in a debate over legalizing marijuana.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufekh_Sw ... re=channel

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

Ron Paul is the one Republican who sounds like he might have a chance of turning things around. No wonder Fox does not like him his ideas make way too much sense.

They don't like him because he's not sold out to the coporate lobby groups.