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Posted: Wed 10th Mar 2010 11:34 am
by Boner
Posted: Wed 10th Mar 2010 12:29 pm
by Cisco
i really cant get to grips that these boys did not know what they were doing , that it was because of there upbringing watching 18 videos and playing computer games ! What alot of Bullshit ! im sorry but you know right from wrong , that killing someone in the manner they done is ok and not their fault ! you know whats right and wrong and if not then society is no place for these kind of people !
Posted: Wed 10th Mar 2010 12:32 pm
by Boner
Yeah I knew that throwing rotten tomatoes over the wall into my neighbours garden was wrong when I was about 5 so I'm pretty sure I'd of known kidnapping, torturing and murdering (plus possibly sexual assaulting as well although they couldn't tell because of the state his body was in) wasn't the right thing to do at 10.
Posted: Wed 10th Mar 2010 02:13 pm
by Sir Niall of Essex-sire
cisco wrote:i really cant get to grips that these boys did not know what they were doing , that it was because of there upbringing watching 18 videos and playing computer games ! What alot of Bullshit ! im sorry but you know right from wrong , that killing someone in the manner they done is ok and not their fault ! you know whats right and wrong and if not then society is no place for these kind of people !
It's not right from wrong i am arguing, its the consequences. At that age, violent video games, movies and home life dis-associate children from the impacts of violence. This is what i am saying is an issue, that the true horror of the crime was not able to be comprehended by 10 year olds. I know for me that when i was 10 i wasn't able to comprehend the finality of death.
Although i think the case for improper socialisation leading to warped views on right and wrong is extremely convincing as well. Hard to prove though, i can get studies if you would want them. However, the complex nature of concepts and empathy being difficult to comprehend at such a young age is a much less controversial analysis, hence why i used it as a basis of my argument.
Also, we have had the privilege of a good up brining i am sure, these kids, most certainly did not and were most certainly brought up in a completely differently to what we were. It is therefore possible, i would argue logical, that the value systems would have been warped.
Posted: Wed 10th Mar 2010 03:05 pm
by Trad
Alex DeLarge was deemed a 'product of his enviroment' when he committed murder in Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece "A Clockwork Orange" and they 'rehabilitated' poor Alex too.
If you have not seen this oldie check it out.
Posted: Wed 10th Mar 2010 05:27 pm
by Twichaldinho
Trad wrote:Alex DeLarge was deemed a 'product of his enviroment' when he committed murder in Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece "A Clockwork Orange" and they 'rehabilitated' poor Alex too.
If you have not seen this oldie check it out.
Nothing wrong with a little bit "Ultraviolence"
Posted: Wed 10th Mar 2010 06:58 pm
by Pauli Wallnuts
theres a text doin the rounds, supposedly giving his new name & where he's living, pretty stupid imo as it cant be verified, but if theirs any P.Kerseys out there i dont mind forwarding it
Posted: Wed 10th Mar 2010 07:38 pm
by Kingdoc
Christ! this thread has grown arms & legs,But yea that little runt should have done some time in an adult jail

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Posted: Wed 10th Mar 2010 07:44 pm
by Boner
Pauli Wallnuts wrote:theres a text doin the rounds, supposedly giving his new name & where he's living, pretty stupid imo as it cant be verified, but if theirs any P.Kerseys out there i dont mind forwarding it
It's bullshit.
Clicky for video.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... antes.html
Posted: Wed 10th Mar 2010 08:28 pm
by Kermit
^^Might be reverse phycology^^
Posted: Wed 10th Mar 2010 08:32 pm
by Boner
I doubt it seeing that Jon Venables is in jail.
Posted: Wed 10th Mar 2010 08:34 pm
by Kermit
Exactly
Posted: Wed 10th Mar 2010 08:46 pm
by Boner
I'm lost?

Posted: Wed 10th Mar 2010 08:52 pm
by Kermit
What better way to hide some ones identity than stick it in the publics face.
Posted: Wed 10th Mar 2010 09:12 pm
by Sir Niall of Essex-sire
Kermit wrote:What better way to hide some ones identity than stick it in the publics face.
Dude, i like your thinking, that anit going to happen imo.
His 'new' identity will remain on release if found not guilty, if he is guilty. It depens who wins the election.