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Cops Shoot Child's Dog 7 Times In Bust
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Bilbo Baggins
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This was posted a couple of weeks ago and got no reply
Bloody hell--this upset me watching this
Ive never met many Americans but I know if I did I would like them a lot
America is a great country
So sorry to be blunt, How the hell did the American people ever allow things to get to this state
A weed bust dogs getting shot, Cops running in armed to the teeth as if they had a tip off Bin Laden was hiding in this house
My dear Americans--you need to sort this shit out----this is without egageration bordering on fascism
WILL THE REAL AMERICA PLEASE STAND UP
Bloody hell--this upset me watching this
Ive never met many Americans but I know if I did I would like them a lot
America is a great country
So sorry to be blunt, How the hell did the American people ever allow things to get to this state
A weed bust dogs getting shot, Cops running in armed to the teeth as if they had a tip off Bin Laden was hiding in this house
My dear Americans--you need to sort this shit out----this is without egageration bordering on fascism
WILL THE REAL AMERICA PLEASE STAND UP
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BayouBaxter
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I hear you, it's disturbing stuff. For what it's worth, I think this particular site is less focused on discussing the Drug War than on celebrating the one pocket of the world not heavily infected by all the insanity.
But there is plenty of discussion of this incident going on elsewhere. The video has "gone viral," and attracted both national and international attention. In the U.S., the discussion is primarily housed in marijuana advocacy websites and in local Columbia, Missouri media.
Which makes sense. These are local police, and it will be the soul-searching of the local community (and there has been plenty) that ultimately reins them in. Shocking as the footage is (and it has earned both hate mail for the police and undesired publicity for the victims), there is no want for causes celebres in marijuana-related news these days, what with dispensaries being raided, closed or firebombed in some states, and medical marijuana policy being revisited (sometimes along a positive trajectory) in others.
Couple places to check out for further coverage:
Columbia Tribune
Columbia Missourian
NORML blog coverage of Fox News commentary[/url]
But there is plenty of discussion of this incident going on elsewhere. The video has "gone viral," and attracted both national and international attention. In the U.S., the discussion is primarily housed in marijuana advocacy websites and in local Columbia, Missouri media.
Which makes sense. These are local police, and it will be the soul-searching of the local community (and there has been plenty) that ultimately reins them in. Shocking as the footage is (and it has earned both hate mail for the police and undesired publicity for the victims), there is no want for causes celebres in marijuana-related news these days, what with dispensaries being raided, closed or firebombed in some states, and medical marijuana policy being revisited (sometimes along a positive trajectory) in others.
Couple places to check out for further coverage:
Columbia Tribune
Columbia Missourian
NORML blog coverage of Fox News commentary[/url]
Have seen the video on another site... can't find the words to describe how fucked up it is. Gestapo/STASI anyone? 'Too much force' is the understatement of the year.
I don't know the background story of the offender, but I would like to know why are they using guns in the first place. Was he known to have violent tendencies? Weapons on the premises? Somehow I doubt it. I'm guessing the police were all pumped up to 'play army', use their fancy SWAT gadgets, and probably had so much testosterone flowing they would have shot a kitten if thats what they found.
Glad to hear its getting exposure and people are talking about it.
I don't know the background story of the offender, but I would like to know why are they using guns in the first place. Was he known to have violent tendencies? Weapons on the premises? Somehow I doubt it. I'm guessing the police were all pumped up to 'play army', use their fancy SWAT gadgets, and probably had so much testosterone flowing they would have shot a kitten if thats what they found.
Glad to hear its getting exposure and people are talking about it.
Blissfully ignorant.gixxer wrote:ive never been there, nor do i ever want to visit
as for my "lovely fucked up country",,,,if you yanks hadnt been raising money for terrorists through noraid, then the troubles might have ended sooner
also ive never blown anyone up,, i fought against that shite
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Even worse
http://www.bvblackspin.com/2010/05/1...olice%2F%0D%0A
Geoffrey Fieger, the attorney representing the family of Aiyana Jones, a 7-year old who was shot dead during a police raid, says police are trying to cover up the truth about what exactly happened. Fieger said he's seen three or four minutes of video footage of the raid and claims that the video evidence contradicts what the officers say happened at the scene.
Police are saying that officers threw a flash grenade through the first-floor window of the two-family home and that the girl was killed when an officer's gun accidentally discharged during a struggle with the girl's grandmother inside the house. Fieger argues, however, that the evidence shows an officer throwing the grenade into the home and then shooting into the house from the front porch.
"There is no question about what happened, because it's in the videotape," Fieger said. "It's not an accident. It's not a mistake. There was no altercation. Aiyana Jones was shot from outside on the porch. The videotape shows clearly the officer throwing through the window a stun grenade-type explosive and then within milliseconds of throwing that, firing a shot from outside the home."
A&E had been following the police to shoot footage for a reality show, but they've declined to comment on the case. Detroit police are trying to get copies of the footage for their own investigation.
"The videotape shows clearly that the assistant police chief and the officers on the scene are engaging in an intentional cover-up of the events," Fieger said.
The target of the raid, a 34-year-old male suspect in the murder of a 17-year-old, was apprehended at the scene. He was upstairs in the house. It is not clear what relationship the man has with the girl who was killed.
The case has been handed to the Michigan State Police for investigation to avoid a conflict of interest. Some have wondered if the presence of cameras affected the manner in which the raid occurred. There were toys in the front yard, implying that children were inside the house.
Two criminal defense attorneys said that they were not aware of past instances in which flash grenades were used by Detroit police when children were present.
"That's a new one," said Detroit attorney Corbett Edge O'Meara. "That does seem to be a pretty extreme measure. It doesn't surprise me that the police had no concern whether they were endangering the lives of children when they made this raid."
Attorney Marvin Barnett had this to say: "I've never heard that before in my entire career, that you've thrown a flash bomb in a house unless you've got an armed suspect and you know there is nobody else in the house."
"I'd like to know who gave the order to do that," Barnett said.
http://www.bvblackspin.com/2010/05/1...olice%2F%0D%0A
Geoffrey Fieger, the attorney representing the family of Aiyana Jones, a 7-year old who was shot dead during a police raid, says police are trying to cover up the truth about what exactly happened. Fieger said he's seen three or four minutes of video footage of the raid and claims that the video evidence contradicts what the officers say happened at the scene.
Police are saying that officers threw a flash grenade through the first-floor window of the two-family home and that the girl was killed when an officer's gun accidentally discharged during a struggle with the girl's grandmother inside the house. Fieger argues, however, that the evidence shows an officer throwing the grenade into the home and then shooting into the house from the front porch.
"There is no question about what happened, because it's in the videotape," Fieger said. "It's not an accident. It's not a mistake. There was no altercation. Aiyana Jones was shot from outside on the porch. The videotape shows clearly the officer throwing through the window a stun grenade-type explosive and then within milliseconds of throwing that, firing a shot from outside the home."
A&E had been following the police to shoot footage for a reality show, but they've declined to comment on the case. Detroit police are trying to get copies of the footage for their own investigation.
"The videotape shows clearly that the assistant police chief and the officers on the scene are engaging in an intentional cover-up of the events," Fieger said.
The target of the raid, a 34-year-old male suspect in the murder of a 17-year-old, was apprehended at the scene. He was upstairs in the house. It is not clear what relationship the man has with the girl who was killed.
The case has been handed to the Michigan State Police for investigation to avoid a conflict of interest. Some have wondered if the presence of cameras affected the manner in which the raid occurred. There were toys in the front yard, implying that children were inside the house.
Two criminal defense attorneys said that they were not aware of past instances in which flash grenades were used by Detroit police when children were present.
"That's a new one," said Detroit attorney Corbett Edge O'Meara. "That does seem to be a pretty extreme measure. It doesn't surprise me that the police had no concern whether they were endangering the lives of children when they made this raid."
Attorney Marvin Barnett had this to say: "I've never heard that before in my entire career, that you've thrown a flash bomb in a house unless you've got an armed suspect and you know there is nobody else in the house."
"I'd like to know who gave the order to do that," Barnett said.
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Bilbo Baggins
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I didnt intend my comments on America to imply any cricicism of ordinary Americans in general, but someone obviously needs to sort out the more extreme gun carrying citizens and also the gung ho deputy dawg cops who fight them. mr average yank is caught in the middle wondering whats going on-----it sounds radical, but you need to ban carrying guns amongst the general populace
and PS My Mam is from a little village in Northern ireland called Aghalee, Ive got lots of cousins and aunties and uncles there and I love the place dearly, Ireland has proved that if the people want peace bad enough they can achieve it---so why not America
and PS My Mam is from a little village in Northern ireland called Aghalee, Ive got lots of cousins and aunties and uncles there and I love the place dearly, Ireland has proved that if the people want peace bad enough they can achieve it---so why not America
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I did not take it that way, you wrote a thoughtful post on a very scary topic.Bilbo Baggins wrote:I didnt intend my comments on America to imply any cricicism of ordinary Americans in general, but someone obviously needs to sort out the more extreme gun carrying citizens and also the gung ho deputy dawg cops who fight them. mr average yank is caught in the middle wondering whats going on-----it sounds radical, but you need to ban carrying guns amongst the general populace
and PS My Mam is from a little village in Northern ireland called Aghalee, Ive got lots of cousins and aunties and uncles there and I love the place dearly, Ireland has proved that if the people want peace bad enough they can achieve it---so why not America
This case has nothing to do with gun-carrying citizens, but with extreme police powers. Blame in on the war on drugs.
what i meant bilbo, but you said it better,,but some people on here just love to jump all over things that has been said without thinking about their answerBilbo Baggins wrote:I didnt intend my comments on America to imply any cricicism of ordinary Americans in general, but someone obviously needs to sort out the more extreme gun carrying citizens and also the gung ho deputy dawg cops who fight them. mr average yank is caught in the middle wondering whats going on-----it sounds radical, but you need to ban carrying guns amongst the general populace
and PS My Mam is from a little village in Northern ireland called Aghalee, Ive got lots of cousins and aunties and uncles there and I love the place dearly, Ireland has proved that if the people want peace bad enough they can achieve it---so why not America
ps i know aghalee well,, like you said m8 a lovely place
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