Bloody Sunday.

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complete and utter bollox


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From Wikipedia

May they never be forgotten.

* John (Jackie) Duddy (17). Shot in the chest in the car park of Rossville flats. Four witnesses stated Duddy was unarmed and running away from the paratroopers when he was killed. Three of them saw a soldier take deliberate aim at the youth as he ran. He is the uncle of the Irish boxer John Duddy.

* Patrick Joseph Doherty (31). Shot from behind while attempting to crawl to safety in the forecourt of Rossville flats. Doherty was the subject of a series of photographs, taken before and after he died by French journalist Gilles Peress. Despite testimony from "Soldier F" that he had fired at a man holding and firing a pistol, Widgery acknowledged that the photographs showed Doherty was unarmed, and that forensic tests on his hands for gunshot residue proved negative.

* Bernard McGuigan (41). Shot in the back of the head when he went to help Patrick Doherty. He had been waving a white handkerchief at the soldiers to indicate his peaceful intentions.

* Hugh Pious Gilmour (17). Shot through his right elbow, the bullet then entering his chest as he ran from the paratroopers on Rossville Street. Widgery acknowledged that a photograph taken seconds after Gilmour was hit corroborated witness reports that he was unarmed, and that tests for gunshot residue were negative.

* Kevin McElhinney (17). Shot from behind while attempting to crawl to safety at the front entrance of the Rossville Flats. Two witnesses stated McElhinney was unarmed.

* Michael Gerald Kelly (17). Shot in the stomach while standing near the rubble barricade in front of Rossville Flats. Widgery accepted that Kelly was unarmed.

* John Pius Young (17). Shot in the head while standing at the rubble barricade. Two witnesses stated Young was unarmed.

* William Noel Nash (19). Shot in the chest near the barricade. Witnesses stated Nash was unarmed and going to the aid of another when killed.

* Michael M. McDaid (20). Shot in the face at the barricade as he was walking away from the paratroopers. The trajectory of the bullet indicated he could have been killed by soldiers positioned on the Derry Walls.

* James Joseph Wray (22). Wounded then shot again at close range while lying on the ground. Witnesses who were not called to the Widgery Tribunal stated that Wray was calling out to say that he could not move his legs before he was shot the second time.

* Gerald Donaghy (17). Shot in the stomach while attempting to run to safety between Glenfada Park and Abbey Park. Donaghy was brought to a nearby house by bystanders where he was examined by a doctor. His pockets were turned out in an effort to identify him. A later police photograph of Donaghy's corpse showed nail bombs in his pockets. Neither those who searched his pockets in the house nor the British army medical officer (Soldier 138) who pronounced his death shortly afterwards say they saw any bombs. Donaghy had been a member of Fianna Éireann, an IRA-linked Republican youth movement. Paddy Ward, a police informer who gave evidence at the Saville Inquiry, claimed that he had given two nail bombs to Donaghy several hours before he was shot dead.

* Gerald (James) McKinney (34). Shot just after Gerald Donaghy. Witnesses stated that McKinney had been running behind Donaghy, and he stopped and held up his arms, shouting "Don't shoot! Don't shoot!", when he saw Donaghy fall. He was then shot in the chest.

* William Anthony McKinney (27). Shot from behind as he attempted to aid Gerald McKinney (no relation). He had left cover to try to help Gerald.

* John Johnston (59). Shot in the leg and left shoulder on William Street 15 minutes before the rest of the shooting started. Johnston was not on the march, but on his way to visit a friend in Glenfada Park. He died 4½ months later; his death has been attributed to the injuries he received on the day. He was the only one not to die immediately or soon after being shot
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bluelaru wrote:4:07 pm Brigade gave the British Parachute Regiment permission to go in to the Bogside. The order to fire live rounds was given.


I have a real hard time understanding this

the military was cleared to fire on civilians
Apparently so, the thing is with British history is alot of it is shocking.

The other thing to note is that N.I has in many ways progressed alot, and that these enquries shouldn't bring to the surface old feelings and hatred that had been forgotten. Hopefully this brings peace to the families, but if we concentrate on all the wrongs in N.I in terms of individual incidents we run the risk IMO of concentrating on the past as opposed to moving forward in the future.

Although i can see the argument that people need to find out what happened to their families etc. during those times.

I think i'm trying to say that i hope the country continues to move forward.
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Interesting Documentary about what was going on in the lead up to this, seems to me, it was somewhat inevitable a "Bloody Sunday' was going to happen...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcpE-jJ14pQ

....and just the excuse some had been looking for, may they all never be forgot?. Cue the next 30 years....

IRA.
•26 June, 1970: Three IRA members and two young girls killed when a bomb being assembled explodes accidentally in the Creggan, Derry.
•27 June, 1970: IRA men use firearms to defend Clonard monastery in west Belfast, the Short Strand in east Belfast and other nationalist areas from attack by loyalist mobs. Eight people (one Catholic and five Protestants) are killed in gun battles.[1]
•3-5 July, 1970: Falls Curfew Official IRA and Provisional IRA fight three day gun battle with 3,000 British troops imposing a curfew on the Lower Falls area of Belfast, over 1,500 rounds fired by British troops. Four civilians are killed.[2]
•6 February, 1971: British soldier on security duties, Gunner Robert Curtis, killed by the IRA in gun battle in North Belfast. One IRA man and one Catholic civilian also killed in shooting.[3]
•February 1971: Three off duty British soldiers abducted and shot and killed by IRA, it denies responsibility.
•25 May, 1971: A bomb is thrown into Springfield Road police station in Belfast, killing army Sergeant Michael Willetts as he shielded civilians from the blast with his body. He was posthumously awarded the George Cross.
•9 August, 1971: Internment introduced. Around 350 republican suspects detained. 17 people are killed in gun battles in the next two days between IRA and British Army. Between 1971 and 1975, 1,981 people were detained; 1,874 were Catholic/Republican, while 107 were Protestant/Loyalist.
•23 October, 1971: Two female members of the Irish Republican Army (IRA), Maura Meehan (30) and Dorothy Maguire (19), were shot and killed by the British Army (BA) in the Lower Falls area of Belfast
•11 December, 1971: IRA killed four Protestant civilians in a bomb attack on a furniture shop on the Shankill Road in Belfast. Two of those who were killed in the explosion were children
•4 December, 1971: The McGurk's Bar bombing kills 15 people. Although the IRA are initially blamed, it later emerges that the Ulster Volunteer Force is responsible.
•1972:Bloodiest year of PIRA campaign, over 100 British soldiers killed, 500 shooting attacks and 1,300 bombing attacks. 94 IRA members die in this year.
•January 1972: Bloody Sunday Unrest in Derry culminates in action by British Paratroopers. The shooting by the soldiers resulted in the deaths of fourteen unarmed protestors, thirteen died on the day, and one died later of wounds sustained. The resulting outrage gains the PIRA support from much more of the nationalist community than it previously enjoyed.
•4 March, 1972: The Abercorn Restaurant in Belfast was bombed without warning. Two Catholic civilians were killed and over 130 people injured. The Irish Republican Army (IRA) did not claim responsibility for the bomb but were universally considered to have been involved
•11 June, 1972: There was a gun battle between Loyalist and Republican paramilitaries in the Oldpark area of Belfast. There were shooting incidents in other areas of Belfast and Northern Ireland. In all, two Catholics, a Protestant, and a British soldier were shot and killed.
•24 June, 1972: The IRA killed three British Army soldiers in a land mine attack near Dungiven, County Londonderry.
•26 June-8 July 1972: IRA ceasefire and talks with British government
•14 July, 1972: Six people were shot and killed in separate gun battles between IRA and British Army in Belfast. Three were British Army soldiers, two were members of the IRA and one was a Protestant civilian.
•21 July, 1972: On "Bloody Friday" 22 bombs kill nine and seriously injure 130. 30 years later the IRA would officially apologise for this set of attacks.
•December 1972: Mother of ten, Jean McConville, is abducted and killed by the Provisional IRA, allegedly for informing the British Army of IRA activities, although her family contend that she was killed for comforting a wounded British soldier. The IRA would deny any involvement in the killing until the 1990s, when it would acknowledge its action and attempt to locate the body.
•31 July, 1972: Three car bomb explode in the Claudy bombings, in which nine people are killed on Claudy High Street near Derry. The IRA have always denied involvement, but neutral observers believe they were responsible.
•31 July, 1972: Operation Motorman, British Army uses 12,000 troops to take IRA held "no go areas" in Belfast and Derry.
•22 August, 1972: A bomb that was being planted by the IRA exploded prematurely at a customs post at Newry, County Down. Nine people, including three members of the IRA and five Catholic civilians, were killed in the explosion.
•8 March, 1973: IRA exploded two car bombs in London and killed one person and injured over 200 people.
•17 May, 1973: The IRA carried out a booby-trap bomb attack on five members of the British Army who were off duty at the time. The attack occurred in Omagh, County Tyrone. Four soldiers were killed on the day and the fifth soldier died on 3 June 1973.
•31 October, 1973: IRA use a hijacked helicopter to free three of their members from the exercise yard of Mountjoy Prison, Dublin. On of those who escaped was Seamus Twomey, then Chief of Staff of the IRA. Twomey was recaptured in December 1977.
•4 February, 1974: M62 Coach Bombing: A bomb planted on a coach carrying British Army personnel and their wives and families explodes as it is travelling along the M62 motorway at Birkenshaw. Twelve people are killed; nine soldiers and the wife and two young sons of one of them.
•October 5, 1974: The Guildford pub bombing kills five and injures 182. The motive for the bombing was that the pub attacked was frequented by off-duty, unarmed soldiers. Four people, dubbed the "Guildford Four", would be convicted for the bombing and imprisoned for life. Fifteen years later Lord Lane of the Court of Appeal would overturn their convictions noting "the investigating officers must have lied". Some had spent the entire fifteen years in prison, years after the IRA men who carried out the attacks admitted them to British police. No police officer was ever charged.
•November 7, 1974: Two people are killed when a nail bomb containing 6lb of gelignite is thrown through the window of the Kings Head pub in Woolwich
•November 21, 1974: In the Birmingham Pub Bombings bombs in two pubs kill 19. The "Birmingham Six" would be tried for this and convicted. Many years later, after new evidence of police fabrication and suppression of evidence, their convictions would be quashed and they would be released.
•1974: In December a bomb explodes on the first floor of Harrods department store in Knightsbridge. Part of the store is gutted but there are no injuries.
•22 December, 1974: IRA leadership declare a temporary ceasefire, pending talks with British government officials,
•21 January, 1975: There was a series of bomb explosions in Belfast in attacks carried out by the IRA. Two members of the IRA were killed when a bomb they were transporting by car exploded in Victoria Street, Belfast.
•10 February, 1975: The IRA leadership declare a truce. The ceasefire was to last officially until 23 January 1976, however it was not respected by all IRA units and violence continues throughout the year.
•February 27, 1975: Off-duty police officer Stephen Tibble is shot and killed[1] as he joins in the chase of a suspect on his motorbike in Barons Court, London. The suspect had been spotted by a detective coming out of a house which was later discovered to be an IRA bomb factory.
•17 July, 1975: The IRA killed four British soldiers in a remote controlled bomb attack near Forkhill, County Armagh
•13 August, 1975: The IRA carried out a bomb and gun attack on the Bayardo Bar, Shankill Road, Belfast killing five people and injuring 40 others. One of those killed was a member of the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) the other four were Protestant civilians
•27 August, 1975: Caterham pub bombing.
•1 September, 1975: Five Protestant civilians died and seven were injured as a result of an attack on an Orange Hall in Newtownhamilton, County Armagh. Responsibility for the attack was claimed by a group called the South Armagh Republican Action force (SARAF) which was considered by many commentators to be a covername for members of the IRA.
•29 October, 1975: The IRA shot and killed Robert Elliman (27), then a member of the Official IRA (OIRA), in McKenna's Bar in the Markets area of Belfast. Between 29 October 1975 and 12 November 1975, 11 people were to die in the continuing feud between the two wings of the IRA. Most of those killed were members of the 'official' republican movement.
•3 November, 1975: Several people were injured by a car bomb planted by the Provisional IRA in Connaught Square, London W2.
•November 27, 1975: The killing[2] of businessman and TV personality Ross McWhirter, who with his brother Norris McWhirter, had offered reward money to anyone who would inform on the IRA.
•December 7–12, 1975: The Balcombe Street Siege.
•January 5, 1976: IRA kills ten Protestant workers in the Kingsmill massacre, county Armagh in retaliation for loyalist killings of Catholics.
•23 January, 1976: IRA ceasefire officially called off.
•1 March, 1976: End of Special Category Status Prisoners. Merlyn Rees, Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, announced that those people convicted of scheduled terrorist offences would no longer be entitled to special category status. In other words they were to be treated as ordinary criminals
•July 21, 1976: An IRA landmine kills Christopher Ewart-Biggs, the newly appointed British ambassador to the Republic of Ireland, resulting in the declaration of a State of Emergency in the Republic. His secretary, Judith Cook (25), was also killed in the explosion.
•14 September, 1976: Blanket protest Begun by IRA prisoners (starting with Kieran Nugent) protesting at the loss of political status.
•2 February, 1977: Jeffrey Agate (59), then Managing Director of the American Du Pont factory in Derry was shot and killed by members of the Irish Republican Army (IRA) outside his home at Talbot Park, Derry. This killing marked the beginning of a series of attacks on businessmen. There were further killings on 2 March 1977 and 14 March 1977.
•2 June, 1977: Three members of an Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC) mobile patrol were shot and killed by Irish Republican Army (IRA) snipers near Ardboe, County Tyrone. Part of ongoing attacks on Police and Army.
•17 February, 1978: La Mon Restaurant Bombing-Twelve people, all Protestant civilians, were killed and 23 badly injured when an IRA incendiary bomb exploded at the restaurant of the La Mon House Hotel, Gransha, near Belfast.
•20 June, 1978: Three members of the IRA and a passing Protestant civilian were shot and killed by undercover members of the British Army during an attempted bomb attack on a Post Office depot, Ballysillan Road, Belfast
•14 November, 1978: The IRA carried out a number of bomb attacks in towns across Northern Ireland. Serious damage was caused in attacks in Armagh, Belfast, Castlederg, Cookstown, Derry and Enniskillen. Thirty-seven people were injured in the attacks. [This series of bomb attacks represented a renewed bombing campaign and over 50 bombs were exploded in the following week.]
•5 January, 1979: Two members of the Irish Republican Army (IRA) were killed in a car in Ardoyne, Belfast, when the bomb they were transporting exploded prematurely.
•4 February, 1979: Patrick MacKin (60), a former Prison Officer, and his wife Violet (58 ), were both shot and killed by the IRA at their home in Oldpark Road, Belfast. Part of an escalating campaign against prison officers, co-inciding with the Dirty protest and Blanket protest in the Maze prison.
•22 March, 1979: Members of the IRA killed Richard Sykes (58 ), then British Ambassador to the Netherlands, and also his Dutch valet Krel Straub (19), in a gun attack in Den Haag, Netherlands. The IRA carried out a series of attacks across Northern Ireland with 24 bombs exploding on same day.
•17 April, 1979: Four Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC) officers were killed when the IRA exploded an estimated 1,000 pound van bomb at Bessbrook, County Armagh. This was believed to be the largest bomb used by the IRA to this date.
•2 August, 1979: Two British soldiers were killed by the IRA in a landmine attack at Cathedral Road, Armagh. These deaths brought the total number of British Army soldiers killed in Northern Ireland since 1969 to 301.
•August 27, 1979: An IRA bomb kills Earl Mountbatten of Burma at Mullaghmore, County Sligo, the British Queen's first cousin, as well as The Dowager Baroness Brabourne, Mountbatten's elder daughter's mother-in-law (aged 83), The Hon. Nicholas Knatchbull, Mountbatten's elder daughter's fourth son (aged 14) and Paul Maxwell, a 15 year old Protestant youth from County Fermanagh who was working as a crew member. On the same day the IRA kill 18 British soldiers at Narrow Water, near Newry, County Down; in an attack described by the British government as "a classic guerrilla attack", they first plant one bomb, which kills six, and then begin firing with sniper rifles at soldiers, driving them to cover at a nearby gate where a second bomb explodes, killing 12 others. During an Irish visit, Pope John Paul II calls for the IRA campaign of violence to come to an end. The IRA rejected his advice and declared that it had widespread support and that Britain would only withdraw from Northern Ireland if forced to do so: "force is by far the only means of removing the evil of the British presence in Ireland... we know also that upon victory the Church would have no difficulty in recognising us".
•16 December, 1979: Four British soldiers were killed by a landmine bomb planted by the IRA at Ballygawley Road, near Dungannon, County Tyrone. Another soldier was killed by a booby-trap bomb at Forkhill, County Armagh. James Fowler, a former member of the Ulster Defence Regiment (UDR), was shot and killed by the IRA in Omagh, County Tyrone.
•18 January 1980: An IRA bomb detonates prematurely on a train near Dunmurry, resulting in three deaths including that on one of the bombers.
•1981: IRA prisoner Bobby Sands, imprisoned in connection with his involvement in an attack involving a bomb and subsequent gun battle, is elected Member of Parliament at Westminster for the Northern Ireland constituency of Fermanagh and South Tyrone in a by-election. The moderate nationalist Social Democratic and Labour Party decides not to run a candidate (which would have split the nationalist vote), in protest of the British government's handling of the protest. This left Sands as the main nationalist candidate. Sands had been on a hunger strike for "Prisoner of War" or Special Category Status for 41 days prior to being elected. He died 23 days later. It was estimated that 100,000 people attended his funeral. IRA prisoners were ultimately de facto awarded political status by Margaret Thatcher's government, after nine more deaths by hunger strike. [Northern Ireland]
•1981: The PIRA kill Ulster Unionist Party Belfast MP Rev Robert Bradford along with the caretaker of a community centre. Irish Taoiseach Dr Garret FitzGerald and former taoiseach and opposition leader Charles Haughey condemn the killings in Dáil Éireann. SDLP party leader John Hume accuses the Provisionals of waging a campaign of "sectarian genocide". [Northern Ireland]
•10 October 1981: a bomb blast on Ebury Bridge Road in London kills two people and injures 39. [England]
•26 October 1981: a bomb explodes at a Wimpy Bar in Oxford Street London killing the bomb disposal officer trying to defuse it. [England]
•20 July 1982: The Hyde Park and Regents Park bombings: In Hyde Park, a bomb kills two members of the Household Cavalry performing ceremonial duties in the park. Seven of their horses are also killed. The deaths of the horses received almost as much coverage in the English tabloids as those of the men. On the same day another device kills seven bandsmen the Royal Green Jackets as it explodes underneath the bandstand in Regents Park as they played music to spectators. [England]
•1983: A Harrods department store bomb planted by the IRA during Christmas shopping season kills six (three police) and wounds 90. [England]
•September 25, 1983: 38 IRA prisoners escape from the maximum security Long Kesh prison. One guard dies of a heart attack during the escape.
•December 26, 1983: The IRA is blamed for a bombing in London which later is revealed to be the result of the Abu Nidal Organisation.
•1984: In the Brighton hotel bombing a bomb in the Grand Hotel kills five in a failed attempt to assassinate members of the British cabinet. Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher narrowly escapes. Five people are killed, and one woman permanently disabled. [England]
•1985 February, IRA mortar attack on RUC police station in Newry kills 9 Police Officers
•1987: The SAS ambush two IRA cells as they attempted to attack an Royal Ulster Constabulary police station in Loughgall. Eight IRA men are killed. Sinn Féin later claim that they were "brutally executed without the right to a trial". [Northern Ireland]
•1987: In the Enniskillen "Massacre" the IRA bombing of a Remembrance Day parade kills 11 civilians and injures 63. Among the dead is nurse Marie Wilson, whose father, Gordon Wilson, would go on to become a leading campaigner for an end to violence in Northern Ireland. The IRA would later state that their target was a colour guard of British soldiers, and stand down the local brigade. On Remembrance Day 1997 the leader of Sinn Féin, Gerry Adams, formally apologised for the bombing. [Northern Ireland]
•1988: The SAS attack an IRA cell that were planning to detonate a bomb near a public military parade in Gibraltar. Two men, Daniel McCann and Sean Savage, and a woman Mairead Farrell, all unarmed, were killed. Although initial reports claimed the three terrorists had been shot and killed when about to set off a massive car bomb, within 24 hours the Foreign Secretary, Geoffrey Howe, was forced to admit this was not the case. However, a car used by the bombers was found in Marbella two days after the killings containing 140 lb of Semtex, timed to go off during the changing of the guard. [Gibraltar]. At the funeral of the three IRA volunteers, Michael Stone, a member of the Ulster Freedom Fighters (UFF), launched hand grenades during the graveside oration, killing a further three people. One week later, two British soldiers, Howes & Woods, in civilian clothes who drove too close to an IRA funeral were killed because the mourners believed them to be launching an attack like Michael Stone's [3]. 15 June 1988: 6 off duty members of the British Army, were killed by a Provisional Irish Republican Army booby trap bomb attached to their minibus, Market Square, Lisburn after a local fun run.
•1989: Ten Royal Marine bandsmen are killed and 22 injured in the bombing of their base in Deal in Kent. [England]
•1990: Car bombings in Northern Ireland kill seven and wound 37. [Northern Ireland]
•16th May 1990: Harrow Rd, Wembley PIRA detonate an IED under a military minubus, killing Sgt Charles Chapman, The Queen's Regiment and injuring another soldier.
•27 May 1990: Two Australian tourists shot and killed in the Netherlands, having been mistaken for off-duty British soldiers from a base across the German border.
•July 20, 1990: The IRA exploded a large bomb at the London Stock Exchange causing massive damage.
•30 July 1990 Ian Gow MP is killed when a device explodes under his car as he is leaving his home. [England]
•September 19, 1990: The IRA attempted to kill Air Chief Marshall Sir Peter Terry at his Staffordshire home. Sir Peter had been a prime target since his days as Governor of Gibraltar, where he signed the documents allowing the SAS to pursue IRA terrorists. The revenge attack took place at 9pm at the Main Road house. The gunman opened fire through a window hitting Sir Peter at least nine times and injuring his wife, Lady Betty Terry, near the eye. The couple's daughter, Liz, was found suffering from shock. Sir Peter's face had to be rebuilt as the shots shattered Sir Peter's face and two high-velocity bullets lodged a fraction of an inch from his brain. [England]
•October 24 1990 IRA forces innocent civilian Patsy Gillespie to deliver explosives to a British Army checkpoint in a Proxy bomb attack. The bomb detonated, killing Gillespie and five British Army soldiers.
•1990: A British Royal Artillery officer is killed by the IRA in Dortmund in the then West Germany.
•18 February 1991: A bomb explodes at Victoria Station. One man is killed and 38 people injured. [England]
•1991: Mortar attack on members of the British Cabinet and the Prime Minister, John Major in Cabinet session at Number 10 Downing Street at the height of a huge security clampdown amid the Gulf War is launched by the IRA. The Cabinet collectively got under the table to protect themselves. [England]
•1991: Two IRA members are killed in St Albans when their bomb detonates prematurely. [England]
•5 February 1992: Vol. Joseph MacManus an IRA man from Sligo Town, County Sligo was killed on active service near the border at Mulleek, near Belleek, County Fermanagh during the ambush of a UDR soldier. [Northern Ireland]
•28 February 1992: A bomb explodes at London Bridge railway station injuring 29 people. [England]
•10 April 1992: A large bomb explodes at 30 St Mary Axe in the City of London killing three people and injuring 91. Many buildings are heavily damaged and the Baltic Exchange is completely destroyed. [England]
•12 October 1992: A device explodes in the gents' toilet of the Sussex Arms public house in Covent Garden killing one person and injuring four others. [England]
•1992: Eight builders are killed by an IRA bomb on their way to work at an army base near Omagh. [Northern Ireland]
•1993: Two IRA bombs at opposite ends of a shopping street in Warrington, timed to go off within minutes of each other, kill two children. [England]
•1993: The PIRA detonates a huge truck bomb in the City of London at Bishopsgate, which kills two and causes around £350m of damage, including the near destruction of St Ethelburga's Bishopsgate. [England]
•1993: The Shankill Road bombing at a fish shop underneath an Ulster Defence Association office on the Protestant Shankill Road in Belfast detonates prematurely, killing ten, including one of the bombers and two children. [Northern Ireland]
•8 March 1994: Heathrow Airport, four mortar shells were fired toward Heathrow Airport from a car at night following telephone warnings in the name of the IRA, but police said none of the shells exploded and no injuries were reported.
•10 March 1994: Heathrow Airport evacuated staff and passengers from Terminal Four and closed its southern runway after the second attack on the airport in 30 hours. No one was hurt when four mortar shells were fired.
•13 March 1994: Heathrow Airport, the IRA launched their third mortar attack on Heathrow defying tightening security. They fired four mortar bombs from a heavily camouflaged launcher buried in scrubland close to the southern perimeter. Later that night both Heathrow and Gatwick airports were closed for 2 hours after renewed coded telephoned bomb threats were received.
•1 September 1994: The PIRA declares the first of two ceasefires in the 1990s.
This postbox in Manchester survived the IRA bombing in 1996.
•10 February 1996: The IRA ends its 1994 ceasefire, killing two civilians in a bombing adjacent to the South Quay DLR station in London's Docklands. [England]
•15 February 1996: A 5 lb bomb placed in a phone booth is disarmed by Police on the Charing Cross Road in London.
•18 February 1996: An improvised high explosive device detonates prematurely on a bus travelling along Aldwych in central London, killing Edward O'Brien, the IRA operative transporting the device and injuring eight others. [England]
•15 June 1996: The IRA detonates a 3,300 lb (1,500 kg) bomb in Manchester, injuring 206 people and damaging 70,000 square metres of retail and office space. [England]
•7 October 1996: the IRA kills one soldier and injures 31 people at the British Army's Northern Ireland HQ, Thiepval Barracks. [Northern Ireland]
•19 July 1997: The IRA declares a second ceasefire.
•1998 January, IRA kills loyalist Ulster Defence Association paramilitary Bobby Dougan in retaliation for killings of Catholics. Sinn Féin temporarily excluded from peace talks.
•1999 Former IRA man Eamon Collins killed by IRA near Newry for testifying against Thomas "Slab" Murphy, leader of South Armagh IRA in a libel case with the Sunday Times.

INLA.
British security forces 46
Irish security forces 2
Civilian 39
Civilian political activist 3
Republican paramilitary 16
Loyalist paramilitary 7

UDA.
Civilian 196
Civilian political activist 12
Loyalist paramilitary 37
Republican paramilitary 11
Security forces 3

UVF.
Civilian 401
Civilian political activist 11
Republican paramilitary 21
Loyalist paramilitary 42
Security forces 6

BRITS.
Civilian, Civilian political activist, Republican paramilitary, Loyalist paramilitary 363

Responsibility for killing.
Republican paramilitary groups 2057
Loyalist paramilitary groups 1019
British security forces 363
Persons unknown 82
Irish security forces 5
Total 3526
1587 'cilvilians'.

Let anybody that feels they're pearly white, point the finger of blame. 11 died in Chicago?, where's their Widgery report. While the rest of the world continued after the start of their civil rights era, Northern Ireland lost it's voice, got held to ransom and were given arson, extortion, racketeering, punishment squads and bombs, from the people that took control after the start of theirs. Plus, don't forget the bullet, Alan Clarke best showed that side of the 'war' in all it's glamour and glory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cwvGeYjLjI :?
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i suppose how only 7 people were killed by the scum while praying in darkley church isnt worth a mention, hmmm, must have been a legit military target, or maybe the workmen returning home at teebane was

things happened on both sides so why only mention 1 event
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Simple, the IRA were never a professional army, they were terrorist scum, like the INLA, UDA, UVF, UFF, LVF etc. But the Paratroop regiment on the other hand were representing the crown over here and are a professional fighting force though we all know how the crown regarded Catholic's in Ireland, they tried to breed them out in the 17th Century then tried to starve them out in the 19th and would only feed Catholic people if they converted (soupers)
So is it any wonder a lot of people in the world believe that bloody sunday was murder pure and simple.
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youre missing my point,,,,,,,typical answer from an RC tho,,,,lets bring up hundreds of years oppression
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For what it's worth, my apologies if I offended anyone by my post. I thought the point of discussion was about Bloody Sunday and not the entire struggle of the republic.

It's an Irish thing, so I will now bow out.
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Post by HasAnyoneSeenMyPipe »

gixxer wrote:youre missing my point,,,,,,,typical answer from an RC tho,,,,lets bring up hundreds of years oppression
Typical because its the truth and the truth always hurts m8. Lets not turn it into a slanging match. Why can you not admit that BS was cold blooded murder pure and simple, if it happened in say another civilised part of the world you would have no problem making that distinction, but it only happened to a few taigs in Derry so fuck em.
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m8 my views on the politicians and paramilitaries are pretty much the same as your,s, also my da is a catholic so i dont h8 any1 coz of their religon,but speaking as an ex para if id been ordered to shoot do you think i would,nt have.

at the end of the day this is in the past and to keep bringing it up does,nt change what happened, i agree it should,nt have happened but it did,now its time to put it to bed and move on.

btw how did the wedding go,,,good day had by all i hope 8)
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Post by HasAnyoneSeenMyPipe »

Well I appreciate that a soldier has to follow orders wether he agree's with them or not, wedding was fantasic, everyone enjoyed it especially my wife and I thanks for asking. She is a good God fearing Presbyterian :P so there is none of that shit in my family either, thankfully. never had or will never have time for people like that. I live in quite a loyalist area so I just get frustrated with the whole fenian, prod thing.
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Post by gixxer »

HasAnyoneSeenMyPipe wrote:area so I just get frustrated with the whole fenian, prod thing.
i hear ya man 8)
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