Sativex available on the NHS

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

how long do u think he will be your lawyer? ive never heard of a lawyer who takes trial directions from his client +the arguments a non starter, these companies have licenses from the government, u dont, its like saying if i get caught growing opium il just claim unfairness because hospitals are allowed to dish out morphine, the law is unfair but hey this is england, nothing would rile the judge more than comparing something legal to something illegal & saying its the same thing

Agree,

best thing to do is plead medical use and act like the poor lower class guy who is at the mercy of the judge to massage his upper class superiority complex.

[Boner]

If I'm paying for my lawer too represent me he'll do exactly what I say.

As far as prescription drugs are concerned I have years of trying differant things, one I was given was taken off the market after it was giving people heart problems (COX-2 inhibitor) which is what I'd also use too argue my case.

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

If I'm paying for my lawer too represent me he'll do exactly what I say.

As far as prescription drugs are concerned I have years of trying differant things, one I was given was taken off the market after it was giving people heart problems (COX-2 inhibitor) which is what I'd also use too argue my case.

Ah man i've heard of that, Cardiomyopathy runs in my family and there's some pill's they are on for heart related issues.

On a related not is it true to your knowledge that Cannabis made heart rates rise?

[Boner]

If I'm paying for my lawer too represent me he'll do exactly what I say.

As far as prescription drugs are concerned I have years of trying differant things, one I was given was taken off the market after it was giving people heart problems (COX-2 inhibitor) which is what I'd also use too argue my case.

Ah man i've heard of that, Cardiomyopathy runs in my family and there's some pill's they are on for heart related issues.

On a related not is it true to your knowledge that Cannabis made heart rates rise?

Yeah cannabis can make your heart beat faster but my medical problems aren't heart related, the pills were causing people without heart problems to have them, I've got osteoarthritis in my wrist because of an operation that I had to try and help against the other problem I have (keinboks disease), basically my radial bone was too long and movement was crushing my lunate bone causing rsi like symptoms, I have it in my other wrist but due to the grief I've had since the op I've chose to live with it opposed to having that one operated on.

I cant take regular anti-inflammatory pills either due to being allergic too them.

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

Yeah cannabis can make your heart beat faster but my medical problems aren't heart related, the pills were causing people without heart problems to have them, I've got osteoarthritis in my wrist because of an operation that I had to try and help against the other problem I have (keinboks disease), basically my radial bone was too long and movement was crushing my lunate bone causing rsi like symptoms, I have it in my other wrist but due to the grief I've had since the op I've chose to live with it opposed to having that one operated on.

I cant take regular anti-inflammatory pills either due to being allergic too them.

Ah right, Arthritis is one of the things that Cannabis has been pretty much proven to help, is it enough to qualify for Sativax? It might be worth asking the GP for a recommendation anyways just so you can back up that did ask the NHS for help to suit your needs?

[Boner]

Yeah I'm going to look into it, the only problem is they're just saying it's suited for ms at the moment, I've been told to see what N.I.C.E. have to say about it before anything else, I suppose if I see about it then if I ever do get caught I'll have some 'evidence' to back my claims up.

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

Yeah I'm going to look into it, the only problem is they're just saying it's suited for ms at the moment, I've been told to see what N.I.C.E. have to say about it before anything else, I suppose if I see about it then if I ever do get caught I'll have some 'evidence' to back my claims up.

Yea man that's what i'm thinking, it's a safety net of sorts.

I'd ask around man, it says on the site it's on its Phase II placebo controlled trial, which means it's well on its way for RA ( Rheumatoid Arthritis ). It couldn't be too much of a jump to argue for your type of Arthritis? It looks positive for its Arthritis condition for prescription.

[spidergawd]

OK this is a medicine but if you read about it, it's taken so long to get to the market because they have had to breed out the STONE . So wtf medicinal cannabis US style is just that, cannabis. This is just a derivative. No stone it's bollocks. Like I've said before we ain't supposed to actually enjoy our medicine for some puritanical reason and I would argue that half the cure is feeling good. this crap is the other half. .

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

OK this is a medicine but if you read about it, it's taken so long to get to the market because they have had to breed out the STONE . So wtf medicinal cannabis US style is just that, cannabis. This is just a derivative. No stone it's bollocks. Like I've said before we ain't supposed to actually enjoy our medicine for some puritanical reason and I would argue that half the cure is feeling good. this crap is the other half. .

Man, i thought this medicine has the side effects of Dizziness, loss of concentration (spacing out), fatigue ( Couch Lock? ), dry mouth and possible hallucinations.

Does that sound like suspiciously like getting high to anyone?

[Boner]

OK this is a medicine but if you read about it, it's taken so long to get to the market because they have had to breed out the STONE . So wtf medicinal cannabis US style is just that, cannabis. This is just a derivative. No stone it's bollocks. Like I've said before we ain't supposed to actually enjoy our medicine for some puritanical reason and I would argue that half the cure is feeling good. this crap is the other half. .

I admit I smoke weed for the stone but I also do it for the pain relief.

[spidergawd]

OK this is a medicine but if you read about it, it's taken so long to get to the market because they have had to breed out the STONE . So wtf medicinal cannabis US style is just that, cannabis. This is just a derivative. No stone it's bollocks. Like I've said before we ain't supposed to actually enjoy our medicine for some puritanical reason and I would argue that half the cure is feeling good. this crap is the other half. .

I admit I smoke weed for the stone but I also do it for the pain relief.

Me too mate I'm 63 and spent most of my life apart from the last few years doing pretty physical work, merchant seaman, heavy vehicle fitter and I'm lucky, I haven't got any pharmaciuticals in our house but I'm not without some aches and groans and very stiff fingers from air tools and my faithfull weed takes care of it all, and a bit of arnica and thats plant extract .
I didn't want us all to get too excited I just was seeing the dull side I'm afraid, so Bones get signed up mate and give us the lowdown.

[ftcarer]

Bump,

My wifes GP has just left having promised to look into wether she can be given sativex or not , I made the point that we agree with him that the amount of morphine(MST) that she takes (180mg per day) does need to be dropped , due to the lasting health risks associated with longterm use .The highest amount she was on was 240mg per day.

I told him i'd done loads of research & that it was possible that using sativex could be the answer , he's well aware that we both smoke MJ & has no problem with it other than saying take it without tobacco
He did admit that far as he knew no-one covered by either surgery he works at was on it & that they had been given no specific info about it , e.g if they can give it out or not .
He said he will find out all he can & we are to make another appointment for next weeek to discuss it futher for now atleast we are seeing it as positive that he didn't just say no , fingers crossed

[Boner]

Best of luck.

[gixxer]

ill keep my fingers crossed for you and your wife m8

at least your gp seems to be trying to help

[ftcarer]

Cheers gents , i'll update as & when