No right-wing minority government

[Marco]

Left wing propaganda Boner...you should know by now...

I will agree that there has been absolutely no discussion of drug policy during all the coalition talks since May. Its priority level is zilch.

Not to mention, if there is a CDA-PVV-VVD coalition is would have a one vote majority, making something controversial like that unlikely.

You must be a BNP voter, you should come back for the big neo-Nazi march being planned for Amsterdam.

[Marco]

Good development. The VVD is a very pro-business party

Amsterdam VVD leader opposes anti-Islam link-up

Thursday 09 September 2010

Eric van der Burg, leader of the right-wing Liberal VVD in Amsterdam, is against his party forming a new government with Geert Wilders' anti-Islam PVV, local tv station AT5 reports.

‘The PVV says things about large parts of the Netherlands and large parts of Amsterdam which I do not recognise. That is the main reason I say 'you should not want to work with the PVV.'

The national VVD, Christian Democrats and PVV are hoping to soon restart talks on forming a right-wing government.

© DutchNews.nl

[Marco]

Labour ready to launch offensive against 'Wilders cabinet'

Friday 10 September 2010

The Labour party (PvdA) has accepted it will be in opposition and is planning a major offensive against the expected right-wing government, the Telegraaf reports on Friday, quoting an internal party document.

According to the secret plan, entitled 'opposition strategy', Labour is to go all out on countering what it calls the 'Wilders cabinet'.

The right-wing Liberals, Christian Democrats and anti-Islam PVV expect to resume their coalition negotiations next week.

Tensions

'It will be up to us to expose the tensions within this coalition and cause the cabinet problems,' the Telegraaf quotes the document as saying.

The right-wing cabinet will have just 76 of the 150 seats in parliament and a number of CDA MPs are opposed to any alliance with Geert Wilders' PVV.

Voters

The document, which was discussed by MPs at a secret meeting last week, also outlines how the PvdA will mobilise voters against the right-wing cabinet.

'The right-wing policy of destruction will lead to a lot of opposition in society at large,' the document says.

'We will not be in opposition in The Hague alone, but in a close alliance with social movements, environmentalists, the elderly and youth organisations. We will actively look for those alliances.'

© DutchNews.nl

[Kingdoc]

Left wing propaganda Boner...you should know by now...

I will agree that there has been absolutely no discussion of drug policy during all the coalition talks since May. Its priority level is zilch.

Not to mention, if there is a CDA-PVV-VVD coalition is would have a one vote majority, making something controversial like that unlikely.

You must be a BNP voter, you should come back for the big neo-Nazi march being planned for Amsterdam.

There was a famous story here in the "sun" newspaper about 5/6 years ago now that stated ALL so called drugs tourists will be "stubbed out" soon as most of the coffeeshops are gona be closed down & the ones that are left will have a new id membership card & so on,But here we are in 2011 nearly & the coffeeshops are still here & open to visitors,I think most of these closures they talk about are in the border areas anyways so like marco said its just hot air by the looks of it .

[Colina]

Do the netherlands have a new government now?
I think I heard that in the german news this morning, is that definitive?
The news I saw were not precise enough!

[roker]

Do the netherlands have a new government now?
I think I heard that in the german news this morning, is that definitive?
The news I saw were not precise enough!

The talks have been resumed...

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/7768 ... vat__.html

[Marco]

Do the netherlands have a new government now?
I think I heard that in the german news this morning, is that definitive?
The news I saw were not precise enough!

The talks have been resumed...

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/7768 ... vat__.html

You must be pleased. Sieg Heil!

[roker]

You really are a simpleton aren't you Marco? that's why you got chased off of channels.nl...nobody could stand your ignorance, nor your arrogance...

[roker]

Four legal scholars have voiced their opinions about Geert Wilders being prosecuted for inciting hate, and are completely against it. They say the case should be dropped, "This prosecution doesn't belong in a civilised country".

Tom Zwart, who is senior lecturer in human rights at the University of Utrecht, said this in an interview with the De Pers newspaper.

Zwart is supported by three other legal scholars: Theo de Roos, senior lecturer in Criminal Law at Tilburg University, Henny Sackers, senior lecturer at Radboud University in Nijmegen, and Elsevier writer Afshin Ellian who is also senior lecturer on Social Cohesion, Citizenry, and Multi-Culturalism at Leiden University.

The four scholars say the case should never have been brought to court and are calling for the Judge to throw the case out. The case continues next month.

De Roos: "Where I have a big problem, is the fact that Wilders' one-liners have been taken out of context and the wrong conclusions drawn. If you look at them in context, you see that he has a valid opinion about protecting Dutch culture from Islam. You might find this bad, or hilarious, but it is still part of the national debate".

Tom Zwart said: "What do you say now to all the people who have voted for Wilders? You are actually saying that they should be behind bars too".

Wilders was going to call the four as witnesses, but the Judges said no can do.

By giving an interview to the press, they are hoping that they will now have some influence on the case."We may all have different views about the content of Wilders' speeches, but we look at it as legal scholars. The point is: you don't have to agree with what Wilders says, to find that he has the right to say it", said Ellian.

Hate

Wilders has to answer to the judge for inciting hatred, insulting Muslims and other non-western immigrants (allochtonen), and discrimination.

Originally the OM (Openbaar Ministerie - prosecution), didn't want to pursue the case because they saw what he said as contributing to the national debate.

The Gerechtshof, (Higher Court), in Amsterdam decided otherwise and saw possible illegallities in what Wilders has said about Islam. The case is being helped along by the anti-racism club, Nederland Bekent Kleur, (Holland Recognises Colour), whose leader is René Danen.




http://www.elsevier.nl/web/Nieuws/Laats ... ilders.htm

[Marco]

You really are a simpleton aren't you Marco? that's why you got chased off of channels.nl...nobody could stand your ignorance, nor your arrogance...

We can't have all graduated from the 8th grade like you, mate. Keep on topic, stop stalking me on other boards I am not on and if you have such a problem with me, feel free to come meet me at anyone of of the posted T&Ts.

Until then, go jizz on your poster of Nick Griffin and find someone else to hate. You bore the shit outta me!

[roker]

if you have such a problem with me, feel free to come meet me at anyone of of the posted T&Ts.

Ooh, the big man now are you?...well, I've pissed you off, now you know the feeling of most that encounter you!

[Marco]

Your quoting of other peoples ideas is spot on. It is ludicrous that he is even on trial. It was also ridiculous that the UK would not let him into their country to speak, for goodness sake, he is a member of parliament from an EU state.

Let Wilder's statements out in the open to be judged on their merits. But more importantly, with a little real government power to be soon in his hands, lets see how the man governs. His one attempt to govern the city of Almere ended in total failure.

Four legal scholars have voiced their opinions about Geert Wilders being prosecuted for inciting hate, and are completely against it. They say the case should be dropped, "This prosecution doesn't belong in a civilised country".

Tom Zwart, who is senior lecturer in human rights at the University of Utrecht, said this in an interview with the De Pers newspaper.

Zwart is supported by three other legal scholars: Theo de Roos, senior lecturer in Criminal Law at Tilburg University, Henny Sackers, senior lecturer at Radboud University in Nijmegen, and Elsevier writer Afshin Ellian who is also senior lecturer on Social Cohesion, Citizenry, and Multi-Culturalism at Leiden University.

The four scholars say the case should never have been brought to court and are calling for the Judge to throw the case out. The case continues next month.

De Roos: "Where I have a big problem, is the fact that Wilders' one-liners have been taken out of context and the wrong conclusions drawn. If you look at them in context, you see that he has a valid opinion about protecting Dutch culture from Islam. You might find this bad, or hilarious, but it is still part of the national debate".

Tom Zwart said: "What do you say now to all the people who have voted for Wilders? You are actually saying that they should be behind bars too".

Wilders was going to call the four as witnesses, but the Judges said no can do.

By giving an interview to the press, they are hoping that they will now have some influence on the case."We may all have different views about the content of Wilders' speeches, but we look at it as legal scholars. The point is: you don't have to agree with what Wilders says, to find that he has the right to say it", said Ellian.

Hate

Wilders has to answer to the judge for inciting hatred, insulting Muslims and other non-western immigrants (allochtonen), and discrimination.

Originally the OM (Openbaar Ministerie - prosecution), didn't want to pursue the case because they saw what he said as contributing to the national debate.

The Gerechtshof, (Higher Court), in Amsterdam decided otherwise and saw possible illegallities in what Wilders has said about Islam. The case is being helped along by the anti-racism club, Nederland Bekent Kleur, (Holland Recognises Colour), whose leader is René Danen.




http://www.elsevier.nl/web/Nieuws/Laats ... ilders.htm

[Marco]

if you have such a problem with me, feel free to come meet me at anyone of of the posted T&Ts.

Ooh, the big man now are you?...well, I've pissed you off, now you know the feeling of most that encounter you!

I am actually not too big, and hate violence. But I am not a pussy like you who hides behind a keyboard. Like DC one said, we who live here and interact with this board are not totally anonymous.

[roker]

But I am not a pussy like you who hides behind a keyboard.

I'm not hiding anywhere, my name is common knowledge because I made it public. Also where I live is known by friends and enemies alike...I'm not hiding anywhere, I could meet you in 'Chapiteau' tonight if I wanted...

[Marco]

But I am not a pussy like you who hides behind a keyboard.

I'm not hiding anywhere, my name is common knowledge because I made it public. Also where I live is known by friends and enemies alike...I'm not hiding anywhere, I could meet you in 'Chapiteau' tonight if I wanted...

I will be there at 7PM exactly. See ya